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EVERYONE.

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TODAY IS TUESDAY,

[1. CALL TO ORDER ]

NOVEMBER 18TH, 2025.

WE'LL START OUR REGULAR DOUBLING CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

LET'S START THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU.

SO WE'LL DO AGENDA

[3.1 Recognition of 2025 Inside Dublin Participants]

ITEM 3.1, RECOGNITION OF 2025 INSIDE DOUBLING PARTICIPANTS.

GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL.

HAZEL WEATHERFORD, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.

IT'S MY PLEASURE TO ANNOUNCE THE 2025 INSIDE DUBLIN PARTICIPANTS.

WE HAD A ROBUST CLASS THIS YEAR WITH 24 PARTICIPANTS AND I CAN'T SAY THAT IT WAS MY FAVORITE CLASS BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER FAVORITE CLASSES, BUT THEY'RE MY TOP FIVE FOR SURE.

AND, AND I JUST WANNA THANK THEM BECAUSE THEY DID AMAZING AND WE INVITED STUDENTS TO PARTICIPATE THIS YEAR AND I HEARD A LOT OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM THEM AS WELL.

SO, UM, AT THIS TIME, MAYOR, I'LL HAND IT BACK TO YOU.

THANK YOU.

AND I WANT TO CONGRATULATE EACH OF YOU FOR GREAT WORK AND UH, I WANT TO INVITE YOU OVER TO THE FRONT AND WE WANT TO JOIN YOU FOR A GROUP PICTURE.

YEAH, WE'LL GO TO THE FRONT TO MIX WITH THAT.

YOU WANT SAY, TELL US WHERE YOU GO.

OKAY.

YOU WANT US BALANCE OVER HERE? I GONNA INTERMIX IF WE CAN.

YOU'RE TALLER THAN YOU.

FRONT.

AGENDA ITEM 3.2,

[3.2 Employee Introductions]

EMPLOYEE INTRODUCTIONS.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.

UM, COUNSEL, UH, IT IS MY PLEASURE.

OH, FIRST OF ALL, ANDY RUSSELL WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.

UM, IT'S MY PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE YOU TO TYLER ISAAC, YOUR NEW ASSOCIATE CIVIL ENGINEER WHO JOINED US YESTERDAY.

UM, TYLER IS A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER AND HE EARNED HIS DEGREE AT SANTA CLARA UNIVERSITY.

UH, HE JOINS DUBLIN AFTER SPENDING EIGHT YEARS.

FIRST AS A DESIGNER WITH A GLOBAL INFRASTRUCTURE FIRM, AECOM, AND THEN, UM, AS A RESIDENT ENGINEER FOR SAN FRANCISCO PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION.

UM, HE GREW UP IN ELK GROVE, BUT WAS BORN IN AND CURRENTLY RESIDES IN WALNUT CREEK JUST UP THE ROAD.

UM, HE LIVES IN WALNUT CREEK WITH HIS WIFE DANIELLE, WHO JOINED HIM TONIGHT, WHICH WAS GREAT.

UM, AND THEY ENJOY WALKING AND EXPLORING THE BAY AREA PARKS AND TRAILS.

UM, THEY'RE ALSO ENTHUSIASTIC SPORTS FANS OF BAY AREA TEAMS WITH THE WARRIORS AND THE 49 ERS AT THE TOP OF THAT LIST.

AND THEN FINALLY, TYLER SCORED MAJOR BROWNIE POINTS WITH PUBLIC WORKS YESTERDAY ON HIS FIRST DAY WHEN HE BROUGHT IN HOMEMADE BROWNIES TO SHARE WITH EVERYONE.

SO, UH, I WOULD LIKE YOU TO WELCOME YOUR NEW ASSOCIATE ENGINEER, TYLER ISAAC.

THANK YOU ANDY.

UH, COUNSEL, MAYOR, HUG FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, SERVE THE PEOPLE OF DUBLIN.

UM, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING TO KNOW ALL THE STAFF HERE AND THE COMMUNITY HERE, SO THANK YOU.

SO WELCOME TYLER, AND WE HAVE A PICTURE FOR YOU.

I'M OVER.

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THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING COUNCIL.

UH, MY NAME IS AMY MILLION.

I'M THE ASSISTANT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.

IT IS MY PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE OR MAYBE REINTRODUCE YOU TO, UH, OUR CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL.

DON HU DON HAS WORKED FOR THE CITY OF DUBLIN AS A CONTRACT BUILDING INSPECTOR FOR 16 YEARS.

FOR THE LAST SIX YEARS, HE HAS BEEN DUBLIN'S CONTRACT, SUPERVISING BUILDING INSPECTOR.

DON HAS ONE SON WHO IS IN THE ARMY AND STATIONED IN NORTH CAROLINA.

IN HIS SPARE TIME, DON LIKES TO RIDE HIS HARLEY BARBECUE WITH FRIENDS AND FAMILY AND EXPLORE NEW LOCATIONS.

DON DOES NOT LIKE TO MAKE BROWNIES, SO HE DID NOT GIVE THEM TO US ON HIS FIRST DAY, BUT WE ARE VERY EXCITED THAT HE IS HERE.

SO PLEASE, UH, HELP ME WELCOME DON.

THANK YOU AMY.

MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, EXCITED TO BE PART OF THE TEAM.

UH, I DON'T MAKE BROWNIES, BUT I EAT THEM.

SO, UM, YEAH, LOOKING FORWARD TO, UH, DOING SOME GOOD WORK WITH THE, UH, CITIZENS.

SO THANK YOU.

YEAH, THANK YOU.

WELCOME, JOHN, I'M OVER HERE.

JOHN, WELCOME YOU TO THE CITY OF DUBLIN.

WE'RE SO PROUD TO HAVE YOU JOIN US.

THANK YOU.

AND MAYOR, MAYOR, I DO HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.

AND THAT'S ANDREA ZULI, UH, EMPLOYEE INTRODUCTION.

YES, I DO.

YES, PLEASE.

ANDREA ZULI.

I HAVE A COMMENT.

I WANTED TO SAY MORE.

I WOULD LOVE TO TALK ABOUT KEEPING .

I WOULD LOVE TO JOIN THE ICE PEOPLE AND EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT I HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE HIRING OF A THUG.

DON HU.

AS YOUR CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL AND THE EXTENSION OF, UH, GREGORY SHREVE'S CONTRACT LAST TIME, THESE ARE TWO EXTREMELY BAD PUBLIC OFFICIALS.

PEOPLE WHO HAVE LIED, PURCHASED THEMSELVES, HURT GOOD CITIZENS, AND THEY'RE THE LAST PEOPLE ON THIS EARTH WHO SHOULD BE WORKING FOR THE CITY OF DUBLIN.

AND THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO SAY AGAIN, AND I WILL GET INTO MORE LATER, BUT WE NEED AN ETHICS POLICY HERE IN DUBLIN.

WE NEED GOOD PEOPLE HERE IN DUBLIN, AND PEOPLE HAVE TO HAVE THE MORAL COURAGE TO CLEAN THIS PLACE UP.

THANK YOU.

SO WE ARE MOVING TO A, CAN I ASK A QUICK QUESTION? PLEASE.

THANK YOU.

DO YOU HAVE AN ETHICS POLICY HERE? NOTHING.

WE HAVE A, A PERSONNEL POLICY THAT BASICALLY TALKS ABOUT BEHAVIOR AND MORAL BEHAVIOR, UH, THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED AN ETHICS POLICY.

IT'S NOT TITLED THAT, BUT YEAH.

AND ALSO CONFLICT OF INTEREST POLICY.

WE DO, YES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UH, SO WE MOVING ON

[4. PUBLIC COMMENT ]

TO AGENDA ITEM FOUR, PUBLIC COMMENT.

AT THIS TIME, THE PUBLIC IS PERMITTED TO ADDRESS TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON NON GENDERIZED ITEMS, SO PLEASE STOP THE PODIUM AND CLEARLY STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

SO BEFORE THE PUBLIC COMMENT, I WANT TO ASK OUR CITY CLERK HOW MANY COMMENTS WE HAVE RECEIVED.

MAYOR, AT THIS TIME IT LOOKS LIKE I HAVE 35 SPEAKER SLIPS, 35 SPEAKERS.

PERFECT.

SO I WOULD ASK, UM, THE AUDIENCE TO REFERRING FROM SHARING OR SHARING AFTER SPEAKERS.

IF YOU AGREE WITH WHAT A SPEAKER HAS SAID, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO RAISE YOUR HAND.

WE ASK THAT IF YOU INTEND TO SPEAK, UM, AND A SPEAKER HAS ALREADY SAID, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SAY? AND PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND TO SUPPORT THEM.

AND YOU COULD ALSO MAKE A DIFFERENT COMMENTS OR YOU CAN PULL YOUR SPEAKER SLEEP.

AND WE ALSO WANT TO, UH, MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND.

I SEE MANY OF YOU HAVE A SIGNS YOU CAN KEEP YOUR SIGNS LOW, BUT DO NOT RAISE UP TO BLOCK THE VIEW FROM THE BACK SO WE CAN CON UM, CONTINUE OUR MEETING.

UM, SO WITH THAT SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, START A PUBLIC COMMENT.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

I'M GONNA READ, UM, THE SPEAKERS IN GROUPS OF 10.

UH, WE DO HAVE SOME VIEWERS IN THE BRAY ROOM, SO IF YOUR NAME IS READ, YOU HAVE TIME TO COME OVER TO THE CHAMBER TO MAKE YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT.

SO OUR FIRST GROUP OF SPEAKERS ARE GONNA BE SHIRLEY LEWANDOWSKI, TAMMY COST, LUCIO, MARIE BISHOP, DAN MORLEY, JEFF WILSON, STEPHANIE ERICKSON, ANGEL LEE, RULAND CHEN, MARCELA, LA DOUGLAS YIDA.

SO OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS, BEFORE WE START, I I WANT TO MAKE SURE, UH, WE HAVE THREE MINUTES FOR EACH ONE.

AFTER THREE MINUTES, WE HAVE TO CUT YOU OFF.

THANK YOU.

SHIRLEY.

LEWANDOWSKI, IF I READ YOUR NAME, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO, UM, LINE UP BY THE BEHIND THE, UM, PODIUM AS WELL.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, THANK

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YOU MARSHA.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, PEOPLE AND STAFF.

I'M SHIRLEY LEWANDOWSKI AND I'M A LONGTIME 38 YEAR RESIDENT OF DUBLIN.

MANY YEARS AGO, MY GRANDPARENTS HAD TO QUICKLY LEAVE THE PHILIPPINES AND COME TO AMERICA TO SEEK ASYLUM.

THIS IS BECAUSE THEY HAD WITNESSED THE POLITICAL CANDIDATES KILLING IN FRONT OF THEIR HOME, AND THE GANGSTERS INVOLVED WERE TARGETING THEM FROM BEING WITNESSES IN THE MURDER TRIAL OR POTENTIALLY BE KILLED BY THEM.

MY LOLO AND LOLA WERE IN THEIR NINETIES, FRIGHTENED IN OF THE DANGER THAT FACED THEM.

MY UNCLE HAD TO HI, HIDE THEM FOR A FEW DAYS AND THEN SNEAK THEM OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT TO BOARD AN EARLY MORNING FLIGHT.

MY PARENTS HAD ARRANGED TO CALIFORNIA FOR SAN FRANCISCO.

THEY ARRIVED SAFELY SOON AND BECAME ENGLISH SPEAKING, NON-ENGLISH SPEAKING GREEN CARD HOLDING IMMIGRANTS.

I AM AN AMERICAN CITIZEN, BUT I'M ALSO THEIR IMMIGRANT GRANDDAUGHTER.

GIVEN THE IMMIGRATION POLICY OF THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION TODAY, MY GRANDPARENTS WOULD NOT BE GRANTED ASYLUM.

AND GIVEN THE HORRIFIC ICE RAID WE ARE WITNESSING EVERY DAY, I WOULD NOT HAVE MY GRANDPARENTS COME TO AMERICA AT THE RISK OF THEM BEING UNJUSTLY AND PHYSICALLY HAULED AWAY WITHOUT CAUSE AND WITHOUT DUE PROCESS.

NOR WOULD I HAVE THEM LIVE WITH ME IN DUBLIN, GIVEN THE POTENTIAL OF AN IMMIGRATION DETENTION CENTER ONLY A FEW MILES AWAY FROM MY HOME AND FOR MYSELF.

I NOW CARRY MY PASSPORT EVERYWHERE I GO JUST IN CASE, BECAUSE AS YOU CAN SEE, I HAVE BROWN PIGMENTATION IN MY SKIN.

AS CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, YOU DO NOT HAVE THE LEGAL AUTHORITY ON THE FEDERAL GOV FEDERAL IMMIGRATION POLICIES, BUT YOU DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO DRAW UP AND SIGN A RESOLUTION STATING DUBLIN'S STRONG OPPOSITION TO ANY FEDERAL ATTEMPT TO REPURPOSE THE CLOSED DUBLIN FCI FACILITY TO BE AN IMMIGRATION DETENTION CENTER.

MY GRANDPARENTS ARE GONE NOW, BUT WOULD BE GRATEFUL YOU SIGNED A RESOLUTION FOR ICE OUT OF DUBLIN AND WOULD BE SENT DIRECTLY TO THE CURRENT OCCUPANT OF THE OVAL OFFICE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS TAMMY, COST LUCIO.

GOOD EVENING HONOR, WORLD MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

I AM TAMMY CAST LUCIO, A DUBLIN RESIDENT, AND I'M HERE TO VOICE MY STRONG OPPOSITION TO PLACING AN ICE DETENTION CENTER AT THE SITE OF THE FORMER FORMER FEDERAL WOMEN'S PRISON IN DUBLIN.

FIRST, THIS PROPOSAL RISKS REPEATING THE PROFOUND HARMS THAT HAVE ALREADY OCCURRED ON THAT VERY PROPERTY.

THE WOMEN'S PRISON WAS CLOSED BECAUSE OF EXTENSIVE DOCUMENTED ABUSE AND ABUSE THAT HAPPENED BEHIND WALLS WITH LIMITED TRANSPARENCY AND OVERSIGHT.

CONVERTING THE SAME SITE INTO AN ICE DETENTION FACILITY DOES NOT SOLVE, UM, DOES NOT SOLVE THAT LEGACY.

IT RISKS EX EXTENDING IT.

DETENTION CENTERS ACROSS THE COUNTRY HAVE LONG HISTORIES OF INADEQUATE MEDICAL CARE, TRAUMA AND CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATIONS.

DUBLIN SHOULD NOT BE THE NEXT LINK IN THAT CHAIN.

SECOND, AN ICE DETENTION CENTER DOES NOT REFLECT THE VALUES OF OUR COMMUNITY.

DUBLIN IS A DIVERSE, WELCOMING CITY HOME TO IMMIGRANT WORKERS, FAMILIES, STUDENTS, AND LONGTIME RESIDENTS WHO CONTRIBUTE TO THE VIBRANCY OF THIS REGION.

A DETENTION CENTER DEDICATED TO SEPARATING FAMILIES AND HOLDING PEOPLE IN CIVIL NOT CRIMINAL DETENTION, RUNS DIRECTLY COUNTER TO THE INCLUSIVE HUMANE PRINCIPLES WE STRIVE TO UPHOLD.

THE PRESENCE OF A NICE FACILITY WOULD BRING ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL COSTS WITHOUT MEANING MEANINGFUL LOCAL BENEFIT.

IT WOULD INCREASE TRAFFIC AND SECURITY IMPACTS DEPRESS THE SURROUNDING AREAS AND BURDEN LOCAL SERVICES.

MOREOVER, THESE CENTERS CREATE JOBS BUILT ON DETENTION, NOT ON INNOVATION, EDUCATION OR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

DUBLIN DESERVES AN ECONOMIC FUTURE ROOTED IN DIGNITY AND GROWTH, NOT INCARCERATION.

FINALLY, I URGE THIS COUNCIL TO CONSIDER WHAT THIS SITE COULD BECOME INSTEAD, A PLACE WHERE REHABILITATION, HOUSING, EDUCATION, OR PUBLIC SERVICE, ANYTHING THAT STRENGTHENS OUR COMMUNITY.

RATHER THAN INSTILLING FEAR IN IT, I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO REJECT ANY PROPOSAL FOR AN ICE DETENTION CENTER IN THE CITY OF DUBLIN.

DUBLIN HAS ALREADY WITNESSED THE CONSEQUENCES OF HIDDEN SYSTEMS OF CONFINEMENT.

LET US CHOOSE A FUTURE THAT REPAIRS NOT REPEATS THOSE HARMS. THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER IS MARIE BISHOP.

GOOD EVENING MAYOR.

UM, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.

MY NAME IS MARIE BISHOP AND I'M A RESIDENT OF DUBLIN.

I'M HERE TONIGHT TO URGE YOU TO OPPOSE ANY PROPOSAL TO ESTABLISH AN ICE DETENTION CENTER HERE IN DUBLIN.

THIS ISSUE IS NOT ONLY POLITICAL, IT IS MORAL, ETHICAL, AND DEEPLY TIED TO THE FUTURE WE WANT

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FOR OUR CITY.

FIRST, THE MORAL AND ETHICAL CONCERNS ARE UNDENIABLE.

ICE DETENTION CENTERS AROUND THE COUNTRY HAVE BEEN DOCUMENTED FOR UNSAFE AND INHUMANE CONDITIONS, INCLUDING INADEQUATE MEDICAL CARE, OVERCROWDING, AND PRACTICES THAT SEVERELY HARM MENTAL HEALTH.

THESE FACILITIES HOLD PEOPLE IN CIVIL DETENTION NOT FOR CRIMES, BUT FOR ADMINISTRATIVE IMMIGRATION PROCEEDINGS, YET THEY ARE TREATED AS PRISONERS.

IF DUBLIN WERE TO HOST SUCH A FACILITY, WE WOULD BE ALIGNING OUR CITY WITH A SYSTEM THAT HAS REPEATEDLY FAILED TO UPHOLD BASIC HUMAN DIGNITY.

THAT IS NOT WHO WE ARE.

OUR COMMUNITY VALUES, COMPASSION, FAIRNESS, AND JUSTICE.

WE SHOULD NOT PARTICIPATE IN A MODEL THAT ROUTINELY VIOLATES THOSE PRINCIPLES.

SECOND, THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT FINANCIAL AND COMMUNITY IMPACTS.

DETENTION CENTERS ARE OFTEN PRESENTED AS ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES, BUT THE REALITY TELLS A DIFFERENT STORY.

THE JOBS CREATED ARE TYPICALLY LOW WAGE WITH HIGH TURNOVER.

THE ECONOMIC OR ECONOMIC, EXCUSE ME, ACTIVITY PROMISED BY PRIVATE PRISON OPERATORS RARELY MATERIALIZES FOR THE LOCAL COMMUNITY.

MEANWHILE, THE HIDDEN COSTS FALL ON ALL OF US.

INCREASED DEMAND FOR SOCIAL SERVICES OR EMERGENCY SERVICES, INFRASTRUCTURE STRAIN, REPUTATIONAL DAMAGE, AND THE POTENTIAL FOR LEGAL LIABILITIES.

THESE RISKS ARE LONG TERM AND CAN BE VERY EXPENSIVE.

THE TRUTH IS THAT COMMUNITY-BASED ALTERNATIVES TO DETENTION ARE BOTH MORE HUMANE AND DRAMATICALLY MORE COST EFFECTIVE.

WE DON'T NEED TO CHOOSE BETWEEN FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY AND HUMAN DIGNITY BECAUSE THEY BOTH POINT IN THE SAME DIRECTION.

THIRD, A DETENTION CENTER IS FUNDAMENTALLY INCOMPATIBLE WITH DUBLIN'S IDENTITY AND LONG-TERM VISION.

WE PRIDE OURSELVES IN BEING A SAFE, FAMILY-ORIENTED, INCLUSIVE COMMUNITY.

WE INVEST IN PARKS, SCHOOLS, HOUSING, AND INNOVATION.

THE PRESENCE OF A DETENTION FACILITY WOULD UNDERMINE THAT IDENTITY.

IN CLOSING, I ASK YOU TO STAND FIRMLY FOR THE VALUES WE SHARE, AND I URGE YOU TO PUBLICLY OPPOSE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF AN ICE DETENTION CENTER IN OUR CITY AND TO SUPPORT MORE HUMANE AND EFFECTIVE ALTERNATIVES.

THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER IS DAN MORLEY.

HI, UH, MY NAME IS DAN MORLEY FROM INDIVISIBLE TRI-VALLEY, A PEACEFUL, INSISTENT, PRO-DEMOCRACY GROUP WITH MANY RESIDENTS IN DUBLIN.

DUBLIN IS A CITY OF IMMIGRANTS.

APPROXIMATELY 40% OF DUBLIN RESIDENTS WERE BORN OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES.

AS A CANDIDATE, TRUMP STOKED FEAR IN VOTERS, FEAR OF IMMIGRANTS, TARGETING THEM AS DRUG SMUGGLERS, HUMAN TRAFFICKERS, AND VIOLENT GANG MEMBERS.

IT PAINS ME TO SAY THAT THESE CAMPAIGN TACTICS WORKED.

THIS IS WHAT MOTIVATED ME TO GET INVOLVED.

NOW HE'S CREATING FEAR AMONG OUR IMMIGRANT POPULATION.

HE'S UNLEASHED A BRIGADE OF MASSED OFFICERS PATROLLING US CITIES, ARRESTING PEOPLE THAT LOOK LIKE OR SOUND LIKE IMMIGRANTS WITH NO REGARD FOR THEIR HUMAN DIGNITY OR DUE PROCESS OF LAW PROTECTIONS IN THE CONSTITUTION.

THE IMMIGRATION SYSTEM IS A CIVIL SYSTEM.

UNDOCUMENTED PRESENCE IN THE UNITED STATES IS NOT A CRIMINAL OFFENSE.

IT IS NOT A CRIME.

YET PEOPLE ARE BEING TREATED LIKE CRIMINALS, TAKEN TO IMMIGRATION CENTER IN DETENTION CENTERS, COLD CRUEL PLACES WITH INHA APPALLING CONDITIONS AND HEAVY USE OF SOLITARY CONFINEMENT.

HOW CAN WE CONDO CONDONE THE BLATANT RACISM? OUR SILENCE IS COMPLICITY.

THAT IS WHY WE ASK THE CITY OF DUBLIN TO ACT, ACT IN DEFENSE OF OUR IMMIGRANT NEIGHBORS, PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN WORK HERE, PAY TAXES HERE AND SEND THEIR CHILDREN TO SCHOOL.

HERE WE ASK YOU TO ISSUE A RESOLUTION OPPOSING IMMIGRATION DETENTION AT THE CLOSED FCI DUBLIN PRISON.

WHY TAKE A POSITION ON WHAT SOME CALLED NATIONAL POLITICS? BECAUSE THIS PRESIDENT IS OVERSTEPPING HIS EXECUTIVE POWER WITHHOLDING FEDERAL DOLLARS FROM UNIVERSITIES, LAW FIRMS AND MUNICIPALITIES UNLESS THEY COOPERATE WITH HIS DEMANDS.

THIS IS EXTORTION, NOT GOVERNANCE.

DO NOT FALL FOR THESE TACTICS.

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DO NOT LET FEAR PREVENT YOU FROM TAKING A STAND FOR OUR NEIGHBORS, YOUR CONSTITUENTS.

WHAT WILL IT TAKE TO EFFECTIVELY STAND UP TO THIS PRESIDENT DICTATOR, ATTORNEY GENERAL, ROB BONTA LEFT US WITH THIS.

WE'RE GONNA USE THREE CS, COURTS, CROWDS, AND COURAGE.

NEXT SPEAKER IS JEFF WILSON.

MADAM MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.

UM, I'M GONNA KEEP THIS SHORT AND SWEET.

UM, I'M FROM DUBLIN.

MY FAMILY MOVED HERE IN 1973.

I GRADUATED FROM DUBLIN HIGH.

UM, I CURRENTLY WORK AT KAISER DUBLIN AND, UM, LIVE IN DUBLIN.

AND I JUST CAME HERE TO VOICE, TO ADD MY VOICE OF SUPPORT, UM, AGAINST ICE COMING TO DUBLIN.

UM, WHEN I GOT TO WORK THE OTHER DAY, WE HAVE NEW GUIDELINES, UH, UM, A MEMBER OF, UH, SEIU LOCAL TWO 50 AS WELL.

AND THEY POSTED THESE GUIDELINES THAT WERE SHOCKING TO ME, YOU KNOW, UH, AFTER SEEING WHAT HAPPENED IN STANFORD WHERE ICE CAME IN AND TOOK OVER AND THEN THE STAFF, UH, WENT ON STRIKE BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T EVEN ALLOW THE DOCTORS TO TALK TO THE PATIENT'S FAMILIES.

AND I'M WORRIED ABOUT WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TO OUR HOSPITAL AND OTHER HOSPITALS IN THE AREA, UM, YOU KNOW, SHOULD ICE COME TO THIS AREA.

UM, BUT ANYWAY, IT WAS, UH, IT WAS CALLED PROTECT THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF YOUR PATIENTS DURING IMMIGRATION, LAW ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS AND JUST, JUST THE FACT THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS TO ME IS SHOCKING.

BUT THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE.

UM, IT, TO ME IT'S SHAMEFUL, UH, THAT PEOPLE ASSOCIATE DUBLIN WITH CLUB RAPE, WHICH IS WHAT THE FEDERAL WOMEN'S DETENTION FACILITY HAS BEEN KNOWN AS.

AND I JUST HOPE THAT IT DOESN'T, THAT DUBLIN DOESN'T MOVE ON TO BECOME KNOWN AS THE CITY AGAINST HUMAN RIGHTS.

THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER IS STEPHANIE ERICKSON.

HI, MY NAME IS STEPHANIE ERICKSON AND I'VE BEEN A DUBLIN RESIDENT FOR 33 YEARS.

MY FAMILY AND I HAVE ENJOYED THE INCREASING CULTURAL DIVERSITY OF OUR CITY OVER THESE YEARS.

THIS DIVERSITY IS SOMETHING WE CELEBRATE TODAY.

HOWEVER, THE PEACE AND HARMONY OF OUR BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY IS UNDER ATTACK.

THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION VIGOROUSLY ENCOURAGES THE DEMONIZATION OF THE OTHER FOR POLITICAL GAIN.

IN SO DOING IT IS TRYING TO FOSTER A SOCIETAL TOLERANCE OF BLATANT CRUELTY AND ILLEGALITY BECAUSE THE TARGETS, TARGETS ME SAY, ARE IMMIGRANTS OSTENSIBLY UNDOCUMENTED, BUT IN REALITY AS WE KNOW, NOT ALWAYS.

SO IT PROMOTES THE IDEA THAT AMERICANS SHOULD NOT CARE ABOUT ATTACKS ON THIS SCAPEGOATED POPULATION.

BUT I'M HERE TO SAY THAT AMERICANS DO CARE AND SPECIFICALLY THE RESIDENTS OF DUBLIN CARE.

RECENTLY, THE CITY OF DUBLIN TOOK ACTION TO SUPPORT HUMAN RIGHTS BY PROHIBITING CITY INVESTMENT IN COMPANIES THAT DO NOT REFLECT OUR VALUES.

COMPANIES WHOSE PRODUCTS FACILITATE VIOLENCE OR WAR, OR WHICH ENGAGE IN BORDER A MASS SURVEILLANCE OR INVOLVED IN MASS INCARCERATION OR DETENTION.

I APPLAUD THIS POLICY.

IT IS TIME NOW TO TAKE ACTION ONCE MORE.

I URGE CI CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO PASS A RESOLUTION OPPOSING THE POSSIBLE REOPENING OF FCI DUBLIN AS AN IMMIGRATION DETENTION FACILITY.

WE CANNOT STAY SILENT WHILE MASKED MEN TERRORIZE AND SNATCH UP MORE IMMIGRANTS, DETAINING THEM IN OFTEN TERRIBLE CONDITIONS AND RAPIDLY DEPORTING THEM BY DENYING THEIR JEW PROCESS RIGHTS.

IN DEFIANCE OF CONSTITUTIONAL REQUIREMENTS AND BASIC HUMAN DECENCY, IT IS SIMPLY A MATTER OF CONSCIENCE TO OPPOSE ANY EXPANSION OF ICE.

IT IS ALSO A VERY REAL THREAT TO OUR OWN COMMUNITY.

WHEREVER THERE ARE ICE FACILITIES, GREATER NUMBERS OF IMMIGRANTS ARE ROUNDED UP.

AS OUR LEADERS COMMITTED TO PROTECTING OUR COMMUNITY, AND AS GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS SWORN TO UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION, YOU MUST PUBLICLY OPPOSE THIS ICE FACILITY.

ALSO KEEP IN MIND THAT THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS USING IMMIGRATION POLICY AS A TESTING GROUND FOR OPEN DEFIANCE OF THE RULE OF LAW AND THE FEDERAL JUDICIARY.

EVEN MORE BROADLY, PLEASE JOIN THE LOCAL COUNTY AND STATE OFFICIALS WHO HAVE BEEN STANDING UP AGAINST ICE ATTACKS ON THEIR COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU.

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NEXT SPEAKER IS ANGEL LEE.

HELLO, MY NAME IS ANGEL LEE.

I'M A SOPHOMORE ATTENDING DUBLIN HIGH SCHOOL.

I'M PART OF THE STUDENT LED ORGANIZATION, DUBLIN STUDENTS UNITED.

WE WERE ABLE TO SEND A PETITION TO THE DTA AND I AM HERE TO PRESENT THE RESOLUTION.

YOU CAN FIND THIS DOCUMENT IN YOUR INBOX SENT TO YOU BY DUBLIN UNITED@GMAIL.COM.

THE DUBLIN TEACHERS ASSOCIATION IS ISSUING THIS STATEMENT TO SUPPORT THE STUDENTS AND COMMUNITIES SURROUNDING YOUR SCHOOLS HAS BEEN PROPOSED.

AN ICE FACILITY MAY BE BUILT OR OTHERWISE LOCATED IN AN, AN EXISTING BUILDING IN DUBLIN, FORMER FCI DUBLIN FEDERAL PRISON.

DTA STANDS FOR THE PERMANENT CLOSURE OF FCI DUBLIN AND OPPOSES ITS REOPENING AS AN ICE DETENTION CENTER AND ICE ACTIVITY WITHIN THE CITY OF DUBLIN.

FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS, THIS GOES AGAINST THE VERY MISSION THIS DISTRICT HAS FOR ITS STUDENTS.

DUBLIN UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT WILL EDUCATE EVERY STUDENT TO BECOME A LIFELONG LEARNER BY PROVIDING A SAFE AND SUPPORTING ENVIRONMENT.

WHAT MAKES THIS COMMUNITY GREAT IS THE DIVERSITY WITHIN THE CITY.

OPENING THIS FACILITY WILL MAKE OUR STUDENTS AND FAMILIES CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR SAFETY.

IT WILL INCREASE THE LIKELIHOOD OF CONTACT WITH ICE AGENTS FOR MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.

THIS CAN NEGATIVELY IMPACT STUDENT ATTENDANCE AT SCHOOLS AND THEIR SOCIAL EMOTIONAL WELLBEING.

THE DISTRICT HAS MADE SEVERAL STATEMENTS IN THE PAST ENDORSING SAFE AND INCLUSIVE ENVIRONMENTS REGARDLESS OF ANY DIFFERENCES WE MAY HAVE DTA ALIGNS WITH THIS MESSAGE AND FEELS THE REOPENING OF THIS FACILITY AS AN ICE DETENTION CENTER WILL ONLY HARM OUR COMMUNITY.

CALIFORNIA PUBLIC SCHOOLS ALREADY UPHOLD NON-DISCRIMINATION POLICIES, PROMOTE SAFE SCHOOL ENVIRONMENTS AND PROTECT THE CONFIDENTIALITY OF STUDENT INFORMATION.

AND WE FEEL OUR STUDENTS DESERVE TO FEEL SAFE IN THEIR COMMUNITIES AND NOT JUST ON THEIR SCHOOL CAMPUSES.

DTA MEMBERS FULLY SUPPORT ATTORNEY GENERAL BONTIS 2025, GUIDANCE ON EDUCATIONAL RIGHTS ON STUDENTS AND THEIR FAMILIES.

DT A ALSO AGREES WITH STATEMENTS MADE BY THE A CLU THAT ALL STUDENTS SHOULD HAVE EQUAL ACCESS TO EDUCATION REGARDLESS OF THEIR IMMIGRATION STATUS.

OPENING THIS FACILITY COULD PREVENT STUDENTS FROM GAINING ACCESS TO FURTHERING THEIR EDUCATION.

THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THE STUDENT, THE, THE DUBLIN TEACHERS ASSOCIATION SUPPORTS THE STUDENT LED PETITION AND COMMUNITY GROUPS OPPOSING THE REOPENING OF FCI DUBLIN AS AN ICE FACILITY.

THANK YOU.

YOU NEXT SPEAKER IS RULAND CHEN.

HELLO.

UM, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR BEING HERE.

UM, MY NAME IS ROLAND CHEN AND I'M ALSO A MEMBER OF DSU.

AND, UH, FIRST AND FOREMOST, I AM A JUNIOR AT DUBLIN HIGH AND A FIRST GENERATION CHINESE IMMIGRANT.

UH, I WANT TO BEGIN BY THANKING EVERYONE FOR BEING HERE.

YOUR DEDICATION TO MAKING DUBLIN A BETTER CITY CAN BE FELT ALL THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.

I MOVED TO DUBLIN IN THE FOURTH GRADE, GRADUATING FROM MURRAY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN 2019.

THROUGHOUT 2020 AND 2023, I WAS A STUDENT IN WELLS MIDDLE SCHOOL, A PLACE IN WHICH I, FOR THE FIRST TIME WITNESSED THE BEAUTY AND DIVERSITY IN OUR COMMUNITY.

MOVING INTO HIGH SCHOOL, I BECAME ACUTELY AWARE OF HOW IMPORTANT THIS DIVERSITY IS TO OUR CITY.

IF AN ICE FACILITY IS TO BE BUILT HERE, PEOPLE WILL BE HURT.

IT IS TRUE THAT THE IMMIGRATION SYSTEM IN AMERICA IS IN DIRE NEED OF REFORM, BUT BUILDING AN ICE FACILITY IS NOTHING MORE THAN A BAND-AID SOLUTION AND WILL DO NOTHING BUT CREATE FEAR AMONGST OUR COMMUNITY.

SO NOT ONLY IT WILL IT DISSUADE PARTICIPATION AND INVOLVEMENT IN CITYWIDE EVENTS, IT WILL OVERSHADOW OUR STATUS AS A GROWING CITY AND REPLACE IT WITH A REPUTATION OF VIOLENCE AND POL POLARIZED POLITICS, SCARING AWAY LOCAL BUSINESSES AND INHIBITING OUR GROWTH AS A CITY.

THE CONDITIONS IN FCI DUBLIN ARE DIRE.

IT HAS BEEN EVER SINCE THE SHUTDOWN AMONGST ITS MAJOR ISSUES.

IT HAS HAD WATER POLLUTION, DECAYING INFRASTRUCTURE, BLACK MOLD GROWING WITHIN ITS WALLS BY ALLOWING THIS FACILITY TO BE OPENED.

WE'RE SAYING THAT WE, THE PEOPLE OF TRI-VALLEY KNOW THAT THIS PRISON HAS HAD A HISTORY OF MISMANAGEMENT AND SAFETY HAZARDS, YET WILL STILL BE ALLOWING MEMBERS OF OUR OWN COMMUNITY TO SUFFER WITHIN ITS WALLS.

OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST FEW WEEKS, TWO OTHER JUNIORS AND I HAVE GONE AROUND DUBLIN, THE DUBLIN HIGH CAMPUS CAUGHT TALKING TO OVER 200 STUDENTS, ALL OF WHICH WHEN TOLD THE IDEA THAT A FACILITY MIGHT BE BUILT HERE ADAMANTLY OPPOSED IT.

AND AMONGST THEM, ONLY TWO STUDENTS DECLINED TO MAKE A COMMENT AFRAID THAT IT WOULD ENDANGER THEMSELVES AND THEIR LOVED ONES.

DON'T YOU THINK IT'S TELLING THAT THEY'RE AFRAID TO SPEAK OUT IN A COMMUNITY THAT PREACHES INCLUSION? SO TODAY I WANNA SPEAK OUT ON BEHALF OF THOSE STUDENTS WHO ARE TOO AFRAID TO DO SO.

ALL WE ASK IS THAT YOU CONSIDER THEIR FEARS TOWARDS THE ICE FACILITY AND PROTECT THE CITIZENS OF THE TRI-VALLEY.

I URGE YOU TO PASS A RESOLUTION OPPOSING THE OPENING OF THE ICE DETENTION CENTER HERE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

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NEXT SPEAKER IS MARIELLA LA.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS MARELA.

I HAVE LIVED IN DUBLIN FOR 30 YEARS AND I'M HERE BECAUSE I WANNA SEE DUBLIN CONTINUE TO BE A SAFE PLACE AND A SAFE COMMUNITY.

DUBLIN.

UM, JUST TAKING NORTH CAROLINA INTO EXAMPLE, TODAY 60,000 STUDENTS DIDN'T GO TO SCHOOL.

UM, AND WE KNOW THAT THAT COULD HAPPEN IN DUBLIN SCHOOLS.

UM, STUDENTS NOT GOING TO SCHOOL.

BUSINESSES SUFFERING INDUSTRY SUFFERING, HOTEL BUSINESSES, RESTAURANTS, OUR LOCAL ECONOMY HERE IN DUBLIN, MANY TIMES WE HAVE TO BRING A PASSPORT WITH US.

BUT AT THIS TIME, THAT'S NOT EVEN A CONSIDERATION GIVEN THE ICE AGENTS ARE JUST PROFILING PEOPLE OFF OF THEIR COLOR, OF THEIR SKIN, THEIR ACCENT, THEIR LANGUAGE, UM, AND THEY AREN'T TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE QUALITY OF LIFE, UM, THAT WE DESERVE.

WE ARE ASKING FOR PROTECTION FOR OUR CITY, FOR OUR COMMUNITY, FOR ALL OF OUR, UM, COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT HAVE MADE OUR ECONOMY AND OUR CITY SO STRONG.

AND FOR OUR CITY OF DUBLIN, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT OUR LEADERS DO NOT ALLOW ICE TO COME TO DUBLIN.

THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER IS DOUGLAS YOSHIDA.

COUNCIL.

COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS DOUGLAS YIDA AND I'M AN EMERGENCY PHYSICIAN AT STANFORD TRI-VALLEY MEDICAL CENTER HERE IN PLEASANTON.

MY FATHER AT AGE 15 WAS FORCEFULLY TAKEN FROM HIS HOME DURING WORLD WAR II.

HE AND HIS FAMILY WERE FIRST PLACED IN HORSE STABLES THAT WREAKED A MANURE AND THEN SHIPPED OFF TO THE DESERT IN UTAH.

HIS MOTHER HAD CANCER AND SOLDIERS TOOK HER AWAY.

THE FAMILY DID NOT KNOW WHERE THEY WERE, WHERE SHE WAS FOR SEVERAL WEEKS.

DOES THIS SOUND FAMILIAR? THAT IS WHAT PRESIDENT ROOSEVELT DID, INVOKING THE A ALIEN ENEMIES ACT AND THEN AN EXECUTIVE ORDER TO INCARCERATE 125,000 JAPANESE AMERICANS.

WITHOUT DUE PROCESS.

TRUMP HAS INVOKED THE SAME ACT TO BRUTALLY ROUND UP ASSAULT AND DETAIN TENS OF THOUSANDS OF IMMIGRANTS.

YOU KNOW, THE TERRIBLE HISTORY OF THE FCI STANFORD TRI-VALLEY IS THE CLOSEST HOSPITAL TO THE FCI.

I TOOK CARE OF WOMEN FROM THAT PRISON.

THIS LEGACY OF ABUSE CANNOT CONTINUE.

IF IT IS CONVERTED, IT'LL BE RUN BY A PRIVATE CORPORATION.

CORPORATIONS THAT HAVE A LONG HISTORY OF PRISONER ABUSE AND ABYSMAL MEDICAL CARE, ALREADY 25 PEOPLE HAVE DIED IN THEIR CUSTODY OPENING.

THIS FACILITY WILL THREATEN THE HEALTHCARE OF OUR COMMUNITY.

IF YOU'VE HAD TO USE OUR ER RECENTLY, YOU KNOW HOW OVER OVERCROWDED IT IS.

WE KNOW THAT ICE PRISONS PROVIDE ABYSMAL TO NO MEDICAL CARE AND SOME DO NOT EVEN PROVIDE NEEDED PRESCRIPTIONS SUCH AS ANTIBIOTICS OR INSULIN.

WE'LL HAVE TO ADMIT MANY PATIENTS THAT OTHERWISE COULD BE TREATED AS AN OUTPATIENT, THIS COULD OVERWHELM OUR HOSPITAL.

FURTHERMORE, WILL OUR LARGE I

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COMMUNITY FEEL SAFE SEEKING CARE WHEN THERE ARE ARMED MASK MEN PATROLLING THE HOSPITAL? ABOUT A YEAR AFTER MY FATHER WAS RELEASED, THE US ARMY ACTUALLY DRAFTED HIM.

HE, LIKE SO MANY OTHERS, PROVED HIS LOYALTY BY SERVING NOW AS HIS CHILD.

I'M ASKING YOU TO SHOW YOUR PATRIOTISM BY STANDING UP AGAINST A DICTATORSHIP AND SPEAKING UP FOR IMMIGRANTS AND PASSING A COUNCIL RESOLUTION OF OPPOSING THE ICE FACILITY.

WHAT ARE YOU CHOOSING TO DO WITH THE DAYS YOUR ANCESTORS HAVE GIFTED YOU? YOU HAVE THE POWER TO HELP STOP HISTORY FROM REPEAT ITSELF.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THE NEXT SET OF 10 SPEAKERS ARE GONNA BE GABRIELLE MARSHALL, MANAV PATEL, KENDRA DRYSDALE, CLOVE KANAZAWA, SUPR PABLA, RICHARD STEIN, ELOISE, HAMMOND DE LEE, LALE TAGHI, AND VERONICA NDO.

SO PLEASE, YOU CAN LINE UP UP THE MIDDLE OF THE CHAMBER PLEASE IF I'VE CALLED YOUR NAME.

SO OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS GABRIELLE MARSHALL.

RIGHT.

GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND DUBLIN CITY COUNCIL AND ALL COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

UH, MY NAME IS GABRIELLE MARSHALL.

I'M A RESIDENT OF DUBLIN IN THE CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT ONE AS A DUBLIN RESIDENT FOR 25 YEARS.

I AM GENERALLY VERY PROUD OF THIS CITY AND HOW WE TAKE CARE OF OUR COMMUNITY.

TONIGHT I AM HERE TO URGE THE DUBLIN CITY COUNCIL TO PASS A RESOLUTION TO OPPOSE THE POSSIBLE REOPENING OF FCI DUBLIN.

AS AN IMMIGRATION DETENTION CENTER, AS DUBLIN RESIDENTS, WE WANT A CITY WHERE ALL RESIDENTS CAN THRIVE, WHERE EVERYONE'S RIGHTS ARE RESPECTED, WHERE CHILDREN CAN GET GO TO SCHOOL AND PEOPLE CAN GO TO THE HOSPITAL WITHOUT FEAR OF UNLAWFUL DETAINMENT OR IMPRISONMENT.

RESEARCH SHOWS THAT ICE ACTIVITY IN THE REGION SURROUNDING SUCH FACILITIES ESCALATES RAPIDLY.

IMMIGRANTS AND CITIZENS ALIKE ARE MORE THAN TWICE AS LIKELY TO BE APPREHENDED, AS OPPOSED TO A COUNTY THAT HAS LESS OR NO IMMIGRATION DETENTION CAPACITY.

WE DO NOT WANT MASKED MEN IN UNMARKED CARS, ABDUCTING OUR PEOPLE BASED ON RACIAL LANGUAGE AND OCCUPATIONAL PROFILING.

THE HORRIFIC CONDITIONS WITHIN IMMIGRATION, DETENTION CENTERS, INADEQUATE FOOD, HEALTHCARE, AND CLOTHING, AND ARBITRARY PUNISHMENT FOR THOSE WHO PROTEST.

THESE CONDITIONS HAVE BEEN DOCUMENTED A FEW WEEKS AGO.

ON OCTOBER 23RD, OUR ALAMEDA COUNTY SHERIFF BRAVELY REJECTED THE FEDERAL ADMINISTRATION'S ASK FOR COOPERATION.

AS THE COUNCIL FOR THE CITY OF THE POTENTIAL DETENTION FACILITY, YOU HAVE THE UNIQUE POWERFUL AUTHORITY TO PROCLAIM NO ICE IN DUBLIN, FCI.

DUBLIN WAS CLOSED FOR GOOD REASON AND IT SHOULD STAY CLOSED.

THE STRUCTURE ITSELF IS UNSTABLE DUE TO ROT, MOLD AND ASBESTOS.

IMMIGRANTS IN OUR COMMUNITY HAVE BEEN A CRUCIAL PART OF OUR CITY'S GROWTH AND PROSPERITY.

LET'S TAKE CARE OF OUR COMMUNITY.

THIS IS AN URGENT TIME FOR ALL OF US TO STAND UP AND SAY NO ICE IN DUBLIN.

PLEASE PASS A RESOLUTION TO OPPOSE THE OPENING OF AN IMMIGRATION DETENTION CENTER IN DUBLIN.

I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

NEXT SPEAKER IS MANAV PATEL.

GOOD EVENING, MY GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS IN THE COMMUNITY OF DUBLIN, CALIFORNIA.

MY NAME IS MANAV PATEL AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON THE CAPACITY OF MY BUSINESS AS I SERVE AS A MANAGER OF PREPAYS ACADEMY HERE IN DUBLIN.

PREPAYS ACADEMY IS AN EDUCATION CENTER HERE IN DUBLIN THAT WORKS WITH STUDENTS AND FAMILIES ALL ACROSS THE EAST BAY AND IN DUBLIN.

MANY OF THE FAMILIES WE SUPPORT, ESPECIALLY HERE IN DUBLIN, ARE IMMIGRANT PARENTS WHO HAVE COME FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD TO BUILD STABLE AND SAFE LIVES FOR THEIR CHILDREN AND THEIR FAMILIES.

AS MEMBERS OF THE ASIAN COMMUNITY, WE UNDERSTAND FIRSTHAND HOW IMPORTANT SAFETY, DIGNITY, AND TRUST ARE FOR OUR FAMILIES.

OUR STUDENTS SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO TO SCHOOL.

OUR PARENTS SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO TO WORK.

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OUR ELDERS SHOULD BE ABLE TO VISIT THE SHOULD BE ABLE TO VISIT THE HOSPITAL WITHOUT WORRYING OF AN ICE PRESENCE IN OUR CITY AND OUR REGION.

OPENING AN ICE DETENTION FACILITY IN DUBLIN WOULD CREATE FEAR, UNCERTAINTY, AND INSTABILITY FOR IMMIGRANT FAMILIES WHO ALREADY FACE UNIQUE CHALLENGES.

RESEARCH SHOWS THAT WHEN ICE OPENS DETENTION FACILITY IN A REGION ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITY INCREASES RAPIDLY IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.

THIS MEANS FAMILIES WHO HAVE LIVED HERE FOR DECADES WHO PAY TAXES, RUN BUSINESSES AND CONTRIBUTE TO OUR COMMUNITY WOULD BECOME MORE V VULNERABLE TO RACIAL PROFILING, LANGUAGE-BASED TARGETING AND HEIGHTENED SURVEILLANCE.

THIS IS NOT THE DUBLIN THAT WE WANNA LIVE IN.

FC DUBLIN WAS CLOSED DUE TO SEVERAL ABUSES AND UNSAFE CONDITIONS, INCLUDING SEXUAL MISCONDUCT, PSYCHOLOGICAL HARM AND STRUCTURAL HAZARDS LIKE MOLD AND ASBESTOS.

REOPENING IT AS A FACILITY WOULD ONLY REPEAT THESE HARMS AND DAMAGE THE TRUST OUR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES PLACED IN LOCAL INSTITUTIONS AS A LOCAL BUS, AS A LOCAL BUSINESS COMMITTED TO SERVING I IMMIGRANTS AND STUDENT THE AND FAMILIES.

I URGE YOU TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY'S WELLBEING AND TO FIRMLY SAY NO ICE IN DUBLIN.

PLEASE, I URGE YOU TO PASS RESOLUTION TO FIRMLY STATE THAT WE OPPOSE THE REOPENING OF THE ICE FACILITY IN DUBLIN.

THANK YOU AND HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.

NEXT SPEAKER IS KENDRA DRYSDALE DRYSDALE.

AND I AM A SURVIVOR OF FCI DUBLIN, AKA, THE RAPE CLUB.

MY FAMILY LIVES THROUGHOUT THE BAY AREA, SO THIS ISSUE IS BOTH PERSONAL AND LOCAL FOR ME.

I'M HERE TONIGHT ON BEHALF OF ALL OF THE SURVIVORS TO URGE YOU TO OPPOSE THE REOPENING OF FCI DUBLIN, NOT BY THE BUREAU OF PRISONS AND NOT BY ICE.

THIS FACILITY REPRESENTS ONE OF THE DARKEST HUMAN RIGHTS SCANDALS IN CALIFORNIA'S HISTORY.

FOR HUNDREDS OF US, IT WAS A PLACE TO FIND BY ABUSE, RETALIATION, AND SILENCE REOPENING.

IT WOULD REOPEN TRAUMA THAT MANY OF US ARE STILL FIGHTING OUR WAY THROUGH.

FEDERAL PROSECUTORS DESCRIBED SCI DUBLIN.

AS A SEXUALIZED CULTURE OF CORRUPTION, STAFF EXPLOITED THEIR POWER SURVIVORS WERE SILENCED.

ANYONE WHO TRIED TO REPORT ABUSE PAID A PRICE.

OVER 10 OFFICERS, INCLUDING OUR CHAPLAIN AND OUR WARDEN AND STAFF, HAVE ALREADY BEEN CHARGED AND CONVICTED OF SEXUAL ASSAULT AND RETALIATION.

AND MORE CASES REMAIN UNDER INVESTIGATION.

WE ALSO HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE HARM THAT WOULD COME FROM REOPENING THE FACILITY UNDER ICE.

IMMIGRANTS ARE DIS DISPROPORTIONATELY TARGETED FOR ABUSE IN DETENTION CENTERS AND PRISONS.

IN ICE DETENTION, PEOPLE ARE ROUTINELY SILENCED, DENIED BASIC RIGHTS AND LEFT WITH ALMOST NO AVENUES FOR PROTECTION OR ACCOUNTABILITY.

PLACING VULNERABLE IMMIGRANTS INTO A SITE THAT FEDERAL PROSECUTORS HAS HAVE DOCUMENTED AS UNSAFE IS NOT A SOLUTION.

IT IS RE REPEATING HARM.

THE PHYSICAL CONDITIONS OF THE PRISON TELLS THE SAME STORY.

THE FACILITY THAT WE LIVED IN WAS NEGLECTED FOR DECADES.

IT IS FILLED WITH ASBESTOS, BLACK MOLD, BROKEN INFRASTRUCTURE, AND TOXIC DECAY.

THE BUILDINGS ARE UNSAFE FOR ANYONE.

THEY HAVE BEEN DEEMED INHABITABLE POURING MILLIONS OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS INTO TRYING TO REPAIR A CONTAMINATED, CRUMBLING STRUCTURE.

JUST TO HAND IT TO ANOTHER FEDERAL AGENCY WITH ITS OWN DOCUMENTED HISTORY OF ABUSE MAKES NO SENSE.

WE ALSO KNOW WHAT HAPPENS TO COMMUNITIES WHEN ICE DETENTION CENTERS OPEN IN THEIR BACKYARD.

ARREST RISE PROFILES, PROFILING INCREASES IN FAMILIES LIVE IN FEAR.

THE IMPACT DOESN'T STAY BEHIND THE BARB WIRE.

IT FOLLOWS CHILDREN'S CLASSROOM AND PARENTS TO THEIR JOBS.

DUBLIN AND THE SURROUNDING CITIES DESERVE BETTER THAN THAT.

DUBLIN HAS ALREADY SHOWN ITS STRENGTH AND COMPASSION BY LISTENING TO SURVIVORS AND REG RECOGNIZING THE SURV SEVERITY OF WHAT HAPPENED THERE.

I AM ASKING YOU NOW TO MAKE THAT COMMITMENT OFFICIAL TO PASS A RESOLUTION CLEARLY STATING THAT FCI DUBLIN MUST NEVER BE REOPENED UNDER ANY FEDERAL AGENCY.

LET DUBLIN BE REMEMBERED AS A CITY THAT PROTECTED ITS COMMUNITY THAT STOOD WITH SURVIVORS AND REFUSED TO ALLOW HISTORY TO HISTORY TO REPEAT ITSELF.

LET DUBLIN NOT BE REMEMBERED AS IT IS NOW FOR HOUSING THE RAPE CLUB, BUT FOR STANDING WITH SURVIVORS AND ITS COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER IS CLOVE KANAZAWA.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS CLOVE KANAZAWA.

UH, I'M A RESIDENT OF DUBLIN DISTRICT TWO.

UM, I'M HERE TO VOICE MY SUPPORT FOR THE COUNCIL, UH, DENOUNCING THE REOPENING OF FCI DUBLIN.

UH,

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WE PRIDE OURSELVES ON COMMUNITY AND INCLUSIVITY AND I SEE THAT IN THE EVENTS THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN ENDORSING, UH, AND CON UH, COORDINATING AND IN THE OPEN COMMUNICATION THAT YOU ALL HAVE WITH US.

UH, IT'S PART OF WHAT I'VE LOVED ABOUT LIVING HERE.

UH, IT'S BEEN SHOWN THAT THE PRESENCE OF DETENTION CENTERS WITH EMPTY BEDS LEADS TO THE ESCALATION OF VIOLENCE AND DETENTIONS IN ORDER TO FILL THOSE BEDS.

THE HARM AND TERROR THAT SPREADS IN OUR COMMUNITY SEEMS TO ME EXACTLY OPPOSED TO THE CITY VALUES THAT WE HAVE ON OUR WEBSITE.

UM, OF DIVERSITY, INCLUSIVITY, EQUITY AND SAFETY.

UM, PASSING A, PASSING A RESOLUTION AGAINST REOPENING FCI DUBLIN IS IN LINE WITH WHAT'S IMPLICIT IN OUR VALUES AND WHAT THE CITY HAS ALREADY EXPLICITLY SAID LAST MONTH WHEN THEY SAID THAT DUBLIN STANDS UNITED AGAINST HATE.

THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER IS SUPR PABLA.

HI, GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS SUPR PABLA AND I'VE BEEN A DUBLIN CITY RESIDENT FOR NEARLY 40 YEARS.

I ATTENDED NIELSEN ELEMENTARY WELLS MIDDLE SCHOOL AND I GRADUATED ALONGSIDE CONGRESSMAN ERIC SWALWELL, CLASS OF 1999 FROM DUBLIN HIGH SCHOOL.

I ALSO WORK FOR THE CALIFORNIA NURSES ASSOCIATION AND REPRESENT REGISTERED NURSES.

I'D LIKE TO START BY SAYING THAT I AM THE DAUGHTER OF IMMIGRANTS AND I'M MARRIED AN IMMIGRANT.

WHEN I GOT MARRIED, MY HUSBAND AND I DECIDED TO REMAIN IN DUBLIN AND TO RAISE OUR FAMILY HERE.

A FEW YEARS AGO, MY HUSBAND WAS, UH, IN REMOVAL PROCEEDINGS BY U-S-C-I-S AND OUR FAMILY'S FUTURE WAS UNKNOWN.

MY HUSBAND IS A LOCAL DUBLIN BUSINESS OWNER AND HAS BEEN CONTRIBUTING TO THIS COMMUNITY FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS, DESPITE NOW BEING A US CITIZEN.

WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT IMMIGRANTS IS THAT THEY NEVER FORGET WHERE THEY CAME FROM OR HOW THEY GOT HERE.

HAVING AN ICE DETENTION CENTER IN OUR COMMUNITY WOULD CAUSE SERIOUS PTSD.

WE NOW LIVE IN POSTIT HILLS AND HAVE A FIRST GRADER ATTENDING AMADOR ELEMENTARY.

I HAVE A MIDDLE SCHOOLER AT FALLON MIDDLE SCHOOL AND I HAVE A HIGH SCHOOLER AT EMERALD HIGH SCHOOL.

IN THE NINTH GRADE, A FEW WEEKS AGO, I WAS GIVING MY NINTH GRADE SON A RIDE WITH HIS BEST FRIEND.

THEY BOTH ARE ON THE FOOTBALL TEAM.

WHEN WE CROSSED THE POLICE OFFICER, MY SON'S BEST FRIEND DUCKED, I ASKED HIM WHY HE DID THAT AND HE SAID HE SORRY.

HE, HE THOUGHT THAT IT WAS AN ICE VEHICLE.

HE THEN INFORMED ME THAT HIS FAMILY'S IMMIGRATION HEARING DID NOT GO WELL AND THAT HE FEARS HE MAY BE DEPORTED.

THAT POOR 14-YEAR-OLD BOY ALREADY HAS TO WAKE UP EVERY MORNING FEARING THAT HE MAY BE SEPARATED FROM HIS FAMILY AND OR DEPORTED.

OPENING AN ICE DETENTION CENTER IN DUBLIN WOULD ONLY FURTHER THAT FEAR.

HIS FATHER IS A COMMERCIAL TRUCK DRIVER WHO IS ALSO NOW UNDER SCRUTINY BY THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION FOR NOT BEING A US CITIZEN AND GREEN CARD HOLDER.

DESPITE HAVING A WORK PERMIT AND LICENSE TO DRIVE A COMMERCIAL VEHICLE, OUR CHILDREN AND STUDENTS SHOULD NOT HAVE TO LIVE IN FEAR.

THE CITY COUNCIL HAS A RESPONSIBILITY TO KEEP THE COMMUNITY AND OUR CHILDREN SAFE.

WHEN THE SIKH COMMUNITY NEEDED A TEMPORARY PLACE OF WORSHIP, THE CITY OPENED ITS DOORS RIGHT HERE TO HOST SUNDAY PRAYERS AT THE LIBRARY.

WHILE THE SIKH TEMPLE IN LIVERMORE WAS UNDER CONSTRUCTION, DUBLIN HAS CHANGED A LOT.

THE COMMUNITY I LIVE IN IS COMPRISED OF PRIMARILY IMMIGRANTS WHO ARE HUGE CONTRIBUTORS TO THIS COMMUNITY.

MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS ARE H ONE B VISA HOLDERS WHO HAVE ALSO RECENTLY BEEN TARGETED BY THE RECENT ADMINISTRATION OPENING AN ICE DETENTION CENTER IN EAST DUBLIN IN A COMMUNITY THAT IS COMPRISED OF IMMIGRANTS SENDS A MESSAGE TO THE COMMUNITY THAT THE CITY COUNCIL SUPPORTS THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION'S AGENDA OF INSTILLING FEAR IN COMMUNITIES OF COLOR.

I IMPLORE YOU TO KEEP ICE OUT OF DUBLIN.

THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER IS RICHARD STEIN.

GOOD EVENING COUNSEL.

MY NAME IS RICHARD STEIN.

OUR FAMILY HAVE BEEN RESIDENTS OF DUBLIN FOR OVER 50 YEARS.

I AM HERE WITH SO MANY OTHERS TO STRONGLY ENCOURAGE THE CITY COUNCIL TO GO ON RECORD.

TO STATE THAT THE CITY OF DUBLIN DOES NOT WANT AN ICE DETENTION FACILITY IN OUR TOWN, IT IS PRETTY CLEAR THAT OUR COUNTRY IS AT SERIOUS RISK OF LOSING ITS FRAGILE DEMOCRACY.

IF WE HOPE TO RETURN AND RETAIN A DEMOCRACY, EVERY ONE OF US, EVERY BUSINESS, LARGE AND SMALL, EVERY INSTITUTION OF LEARNING AND EVERY

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STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNING BODY MUST TAKE A STAND.

IF EACH OF US DOESN'T STAND UP TO PROTECT OUR DEMOCRACY, WE COULD LOSE IT.

SO PLEASE, CITY COUNCIL, BE COURAGEOUS AND PASS A RESOLUTION OPPOSING HAVING AN ICE FACILITY IN DUBLIN.

THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER IS ELOISE HAMMOND.

ACTUALLY, IT'S ELOISE HAMMOND.

I'VE LIVED IN WEST DUBLIN SINCE 1986.

I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN SO FAR, WE ALREADY SAID.

BUT I'D LIKE TO ADD HOW DANGEROUS THIS MOLDY BUILDING IS EVEN FOR ICE AGENTS.

NEXT SPEAKER IS DEBORAH LEE.

GOOD EVENING COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS REVEREND DEBORAH LEE.

I'M A CHRISTIAN MINISTER AND I'M THE CO-EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE INTERFAITH MOVEMENT FOR HUMAN INTEGRITY.

WE WORK WITH FAITH COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE STATE THAT WORK TO STAND WITH IMMIGRANTS AND THOSE IMPACTED BY INCARCERATION.

WE'VE BEEN PART OF A DIGNITY NOT DETENTION COALITION FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS, WHICH HAS BEEN WORKING TO ACTUALLY REDUCE THE DETENTION CENTERS ACROSS CALIFORNIA, INCLUDING CLOSING THE ONE IN RICHMOND AND SACRAMENTO AND YUBA.

AND AS A RESULT, COMMUNITIES HAVE BECOME SAFER AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE IT IS SO IMPORTANT THAT WE NOT CREATE MORE TOOLS AND INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THIS ADMINISTRATION.

SOME OF OUR FAITH LEADERS WERE IN SAN FRANCISCO THIS, THIS MORNING AND UH, WE'RE, UM, A KENYAN MAN, A FATHER OF A FIVE MONTH OLD GOING TO HIS GREEN CARD HOLDING WAS TAKEN WHILE HIS WIFE WENT TO THE BATHROOM AND HE WAS TAKEN AND HE IS NOW ON HIS WAY TO A DETENTION CENTER.

SO I'M HERE ALSO TO REPRESENT PEOPLE WHO CAN'T STAND HERE TODAY.

AND THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN DETENTION.

SO I WANNA READ, UH, SOME LETTERS.

THIS IS FROM I'LL A I'LL CALL HIM A PLEASE.

WE NEED HELP.

HE'S IN CALIFORNIA CITY DETENTION.

WE HAVE NO MEDICINE OR ENOUGH FOOD.

THE WATER I USE WHEN I BATHE MAKES MY WHOLE BODY BURN, ESPECIALLY ON SENSITIVE AREAS OF MY BODY.

I'VE BEEN WITHOUT MY DIABETES MEDICINE, HEART MEDICINE OR CHOLESTEROL MEDICINE FOR THREE WEEKS FROM R WE OFTEN FEEL TRAPPED IN A DARK BLACK BOX, TIED HAND AND FOOT GAGGED AND SUBJECTED TO ABSOLUTE SILENCE.

HE'S IN SOLITARY CONFINEMENT WITH THAT FEAR THAT PARALYZES YOU, THAT OPPRESSES YOU, THAT BLINDS YOU.

WE CLINGING TO THE HOPE OF FINDING AT ANY MOMENT THAT LITTLE BEAM OF LIGHT, A SIGH OF FAITH TO FREE US.

EVEN THOUGH SOMETIMES IN TRYING AND NOT FINDING IT, WE LOSE OUR LIVES.

I PRAY I HAVE THE COURAGE, THE LUCK AND THE BLESSING TO SURVIVE ALSO FROM CALIFORNIA CITY.

THIS IS FROM M IN MESA VERDE IN BAKERSFIELD.

IN DETENTION.

INSTEAD OF LIVING YOUR LIFE, YOU'RE FIGHTING FOR IT.

YOU'RE FIGHTING FOR YOUR LIFE AND FOR YOUR FREEDOM.

ICE SHAMELESSLY TAKES EVERYTHING FROM US WITH NO REMORSE.

DETENTION MEANS THINGS GETTING WORSE, BAD FOOD.

THE MAIN COURSE ON THE TRAY MOST DAYS LOOKS AND SMELLS LIKE THE WET DOG FOOD I USED TO BUY FOR MY DOGS.

THE KIND THAT COMES IN A CAN DO.

WE REGISTER AS HUMANS.

FAMILIES ARE SEPARATED BY ICE AND DETENTION AND DEPORTATIONS.

PARENTS WILL NEVER SEE THEIR CHILDREN GROW UP.

THESE CHILDREN WHO WERE BORN HERE ARE AMERICAN CITIZENS WHO JUST LOST THEIR PARENTS, WHO THEY RELY ON.

IT'S SIMPLY GONE.

KIDS SEPARATED FROM PARENTS, BUSINESSES, BUSINESSES CLOSE PEOPLE SUFFERING AND ICE MAKES MONEY.

PLEASE GO ON THE RECORD.

IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT THIS CITY STAND FOR ITS IMMIGRANT NEIGHBORS AND ALL OF US.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER IS VERONICA NDOR.

HI Y'ALL.

SO I AM VERONICA NANDOR.

UM, MOVED HERE, BORN AND RAISED IN CALI SANHO.

AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, I'M JUST A PERSON, SORRY, NEW TO THIS.

NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE.

THAT'S RIGHT.

I KIND OF WROTE THIS ALL MY LIFE.

I'VE BEEN S**T.

I'M NOT GONNA GO TO THE STATS.

'CAUSE YOU GUYS ALREADY HEARD THAT OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

YOU GUYS ALREADY KNOW ABOUT THE INHUMANE CONDITIONS.

YOU GUYS KNOW THAT I'M HERE BECAUSE REID.

OKAY.

ALL

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MY LIFE I'VE BEEN MISTAKEN FOR SOMEONE'S SISTER OR COUSIN AND THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN FINE BECAUSE I HAVE ONE OF THOSE FACES.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M FINE WITH THAT 'CAUSE I JUST DO.

AND FOR THE MOST PART IT'S A CONVERSATION STARTER.

AND I LIKE THAT 'CAUSE I LIKE CONNECTING TO PEOPLE.

I AM AN EXTROVERT.

IT'S A DEFENSE MECHANISM AND I USE IT TO MY ADVANTAGE.

SO ESPECIALLY WITH THE COVID PANDEMIC AND ALL THAT CONNECTION IS SORELY LACKING IN OUR SOCIETY.

AND SO FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS I'VE BEEN DOING DD AT THE LIBRARY WITH MY HUSBAND, UM, AGAINST HIS WILL, BUT HE DOES IT WITH ME JUST THE SAME.

AND SO I DO IT, I DO IT WITH HIM.

AND WE'VE BEEN CONNECTING, UH, WITH TEENS AND HONESTLY, BUILDING A COMMUNITY, A COMMUNITY AND BUILDING IS A LOT HARDER THAN DESTROYING.

AND THERE'S A REASON I'M SAYING THAT.

AND THERE'S, THAT'S THE REASON I'M HERE.

THE PRIMARY REASON I'M HERE BECAUSE IN ALL FAIRNESS, WHEN IT COMES TO BUILDING, THAT'S THE ONE THING THAT ICE DOES NOT DO.

IT'S MORE OF A POISON.

BUT I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY GOT THAT FROM ALL THE OTHER MESSAGES FROM OTHER PEOPLE, FROM THE FEAR THAT IT INSTILLS FROM THE FACT THAT THEY WEAR MASKS.

THEY DON'T HAVE WARRANTS, THEY TAKE AWAY DUE PROCESS.

I MEAN, YOU GUYS HEAR IT ON THE REELS, YOU HEAR IT IN THE NEWS.

THE FACT THAT THEY ARE SENDING CITIZENS AND BEING BORN AND RAISED IN CALI.

AND SINCE I DO D AND D I'M THE DM.

I PUT ON A LOT OF VOICES.

I MEAN A LOT OF VOICES LIKE TOP OF THE BARN AND TELL YOU, I MEAN, WHEN I MOVED TO DUBLIN, OH HEAVEN FORBID, BIG BUTTON ON ALL YOUR ACCENT ON THE KIDS LOVE IT.

I MEAN, WHEN SISTER MARY CATHERINE COMES OUT, OH, THEY LOVE IT.

BUT THE PROBLEM IS, YOU KNOW WHAT? I CAN'T PUT AN ACCENT ON THE FACT THAT I LOOK LIKE THIS.

AND IN ALL FAIRNESS, WHEN IT HELPS PEOPLE, WHEN PEOPLE COME UP TO ME AND THEY TALK TO ME IN SPANISH BECAUSE THEY NEED HELP, I LOVE IT BECAUSE AS A OH THIRD GENERATION, I JUST REALIZED THAT THIS YEAR I ACTUALLY WAS FIRST.

I THOUGHT I WAS FIRST GENERATION, BUT I'M THIRD.

I CAN HELP PEOPLE.

THANK, THANK YOU.

THAT'S I WANT YOU GUYS TO DO THE SAME.

PLEASE RALLY FOR US.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

THE NEXT SPEAKER IS LAIL TAKA GCI.

BYE.

I'M LAIL TUCCI AND MY HUSBAND AND I OWN A HOUSE HERE IN DUBLIN.

WE'VE LIVED HERE FOR 44 YEARS PLUS RAISED OUR CHILDREN HERE.

UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LETTING US ALL SPEAK THIS EVENING TO THIS VERY IMPORTANT MATTER.

UM, I WOULD LIKE, UH, THE DUBLIN CITY COUNCIL TO STRONGLY OBJECT TO THE USE OF THE OLD WOMEN'S PRISON AS A HOLDING FACILITY FOR ICE.

OUR GOVERNMENT IS ARRESTING AND DEPORTING PEOPLE, RECITING IN THE UNITED STATES WITHOUT DUE PROCESS OF THE LAW.

THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA HAS COOPERATED WITH THE IMMIGRATION SOCIETY, UH, EXCUSE ME, DEPARTMENT, UM, AND DEPORTED CRIMINALS OF ALL RACES FOR MANY YEARS NOW, AS DURING WORLD WAR II.

IN CASE YOU MISSED IT, MY LAST NAME IS TACKY GUCCI.

MY HUSBAND WAS BORN IN THE CAMPS.

HIS PARENTS WERE NEWLYWEDS AND TAKEN OFF THE STREET.

NOW AS DURING WORLD WAR II, RACIAL PROFILING IS BEING USED.

NOT CRIMINAL RECORDS TO ARREST PEOPLE ENOUGH, PLEASE, DUBLIN COUNSEL, MAKE IT KNOWN TO THE WORLD THAT YOU ARE ABLE TO REJECT THE OPENING OF THE ICE FACILITY HERE IN OUR CITY.

THE NEXT GROUP OF SPEAKERS ARE GONNA BE IRENE HEIS, JOHN CAMERON, ANA MANSFIELD, KEITH JACKSON, JO LAOS, MUSA, TARIQ, AMANDA BERGER, MIKE GRANT, SA AND KY AND KELSEY SHIELD.

SO THE FIRST SPEAKER IS IRENE HEAS.

YEAH,

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IRENE.

SHE ACTUALLY, OH, UM, GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS IRENE.

SHE, I AM A DUBLIN RESIDENT.

MY CHILDREN ARE STUDENTS IN DUBLIN SCHOOLS.

MY PARENTS, PETER AND SANDY, SHE HAVE BEEN ACTIVE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND RESIDENTS OF DO DUBLIN FOR MORE THAN A DECADE.

I'M HERE TO STRONGLY URGE OUR CITY COUNCIL TO PASS A RESOLUTION TO OPPOSE THE POSSIBLE REOPENING OF FCI DUBLIN AS AN IMMIGRATION DETENTION CENTER, AS ALL OF THESE OTHER, AS ALL OF THE OTHER, UM, FOLKS.

FOR ME, DUBLIN HAS BEEN A WELCOMING AND SAFE COMMUNITY OF FAMILIES.

WE SHARE THE VALUES OF CARING FOR OUR FAMILIES, WORKING HARD FOR THE NEXT GENERATION, AND LOOKING OUT FOR OUR NEIGHBORS.

I LOVE THE FACT THAT MY NEIGHBORS, WE KNOW EACH OTHER AND WE KIND OF KEEP AN EYE ON WHAT'S HAPPENING ALL, UM, AND LIKE TEXT EACH OTHER IF WE SEE ANYTHING SUSPICIOUS, YOU KNOW, UM, OR, OR EVEN JUST LIKE, HEY, DO YOU NEED ME TO PICK UP YOUR PACKAGE FOR YOU? UM, THAT'S THE KIND OF NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE LIVE IN, BUT FCI, DUBLIN HAS SHOWN ITSELF TO BE A HORRIFYING NEIGHBOR AND ICE WOULD BE THE SAME.

AND YOU GUYS, I UNDERSTAND.

I BELIEVE YOU ALL KNOW THIS.

FCI, DUBLIN AND ICE REPRESENT THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF THE VALUES OF OUR COMMUNITY.

FCI, DUBLIN IS A BLIGHT ON OUR CITY.

AND ALLOWING ICE TO OPEN A DETENTION CENTER HERE IS ALLOWING THE BLIGHT TO SPREAD AND FESTER.

SLOGAN IS THE NEW AMERICAN BACKYARD.

THE CITY HAS DONE SO MUCH TO MAKE IT FEEL JUST LIKE THAT.

FARMERS MARKETS, FESTIVALS, CAMPING IN THE PARK, MOVIE NIGHTS IN THE PARK, AND SO MANY OTHER THINGS.

BUT ICE DOES NOT BELONG IN OUR BACKYARD WITH OUR CHILDREN AND OUR FAMILIES.

PLEASE DO WHAT IS IN YOUR POWER TO PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING.

THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER IS JOHN CAMERON.

HELLO.

BEEN A RESIDENT HERE FOR OVER 50 YEARS.

UM, YOU KNOW, IT TAKES A LOT OF COURAGE FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE TO STAND UP HERE AND TALK IN FRONT OF YOU FOLKS.

SO I, I GIVE IT UP TO THEM AND I, I STAND WITH IMMIGRANTS AND I STAND WITH THE VICTIMS OF THAT HORRID PLACE.

AND I STAND AGAINST ICE AND I SUPPORT YOU HAVING A RESOLUTION AGAINST THE, THAT FACILITY AND AGAINST ICE MOVING IN, YOU KNOW, UM, HISTORY.

UH, WE'RE IN A A CRUX RIGHT NOW.

WE'VE GOT A TYRANT RUNNING THIS COUNTRY WHO IS DEVOID OF COMPASSION AND EMPATHY.

I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE IT OUTTA 330 SOMETHING MILLION PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY.

THAT'S THE BEST WE COULD DO.

THAT'S PRETTY CRAPPY.

I WANTED TO SHOW YOU SOMETHING.

I'M THE SON OF AN IMMIGRANT.

HE FOUGHT IN WORLD WAR II.

THESE ARE HIS, HE DID THE WHOLE DAMN WAR.

HE FOUGHT AGAINST THE TYRANNY THAT WE'RE FACING RIGHT NOW, AND HE'D BE P****D AT WHAT HE SAW.

HIM AND HIS BROTHER WERE COMBAT VETERANS.

THEY SAW IT STRAIGHT UP.

IT TAKES A LOT OF COURAGE TO FIGHT TYRANNY AND ALL THESE PEOPLE HAVE A LOT OF COURAGE.

I'M SURE WHEN YOU SIGN THAT RESOLUTION, YOU'RE SUPPORTING AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE SHOWING YOUR OWN COURAGE.

THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER IS ANA MANSFIELD.

UH, I'M ANA MANSFIELD AND I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT IN DUBLIN FOR OVER 20 YEARS.

MY FAMILY IMMIGRATED TO THE US WHEN I WAS A BABY FROM INDIA.

WE LIVED IN THE SOUTH WHERE PEOPLE THOUGHT WE WERE HISPANIC.

AND ACROSS THE EAST COAST WHERE PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WE WERE, OUR SKIN WAS DARKER, OUR NAMES WERE STRANGE.

AND WEATHER AT THE STORE, IN THE PARK, IN A ROOM, IN EVERY ROOM, WE COULD FEEL EYES ON US.

IT WAS THE W OF RACISM THAT REMINDED US THAT WE WERE DIFFERENT, THAT WE DIDN'T BELONG.

THIS KIND OF FEELING THAT STIFLES YOUR BREATH.

WHEN I STARTED A FAMILY, I MOVED TO CALIFORNIA SO MY CHILDREN WOULD FEEL A LITTLE LESS OF THE STAIRS AND A LITTLE LESS, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE WOULD BE ABLE TO BREATHE A LITTLE EASIER.

BUT I NEVER IMAGINED A PLACE LIKE DUBLIN, A TOWN PROUD OF ITS IMMIGRANTS, WHERE I HAVE THE LUXURY TO DISAPPEAR IN A CROWD AND, AND TAKE A FULL

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BREATH OF AIR.

FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE.

I URGE THE DUBLIN CITY COUNCIL TO PASS A RESOLUTION TO OPPOSE THE POSSIBLE REOPENING OF THE FCI, UH, DUBLIN AS AN IMMIGRATION DETENTION FACILITY.

THE THUGGERY OF ICE IN DUBLIN WILL ROB OUR CHILDREN AND OUR COMMUNITY OF THE AIR TO BREATHE AND THE SECURITY THEY NEED.

IT WILL CHANGE WHO WE ARE.

IT WILL CHANGE WHAT WE STAND FOR.

DUBLIN IS BETTER THAN THIS.

WE DESERVE BETTER THAN THIS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER IS KEITH JACKSON.

HELLO.

IT'S MY FIRST TIME BEING TO A CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

FIRST I WANNA CONGRATULATE ALL OF YOU FOR SERVING THE GOVERNMENT, FOR SERVING THE PEOPLE.

WE'RE ALL DOING A GOOD JOB HERE GENERALLY.

I'VE LIVED HERE FOR 40 YEARS, SINCE 1980 WHEN THE HOUSES WERE $80,000 .

AND I WORKED FOR ZONE SEVEN WATER AGENCY FOR 30 YEARS.

BEEN RETIRED FOR A WHILE NOW.

UH, I'M NOT EVEN GONNA GO INTO SO MANY OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SAID A LOT BETTER THAN I HAVE.

YOU KNOW, THE PROBLEM YOU GOT HERE, IT'S A BAD FACILITY.

IT'S, IT'S HEALTH NOT HEALTHY.

IT'S RUN BY ICE.

UH, YOU KNOW, WE ALL BEEN SOLD THIS BILL GOOD.

THEY'RE GONNA GO GET THE WORST OF THE WORST.

WELL, GUESS WHAT? YOU DON'T FIND THE WORST OF THE WORST WORKING AT A LOCAL CAR WASH AND YOU DON'T GRAB 'EM OFF THE STREET WITH NO DUE PROCESS.

SO YOU ALL KNOW WHAT'S BEING DONE IS WRONG.

AND THIS IS ONE WAY THAT YOU CAN OPPOSE IN YOUR POSITION AS, AS REPRESENTING DUBLIN.

YOU CAN OPPOSE THIS FACILITY, WHICH I DEFINITELY THINK YOU SHOULD DO.

SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO THAT.

AND SINCE I GOT A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, IF YOU GO DOWN DUBLIN BOULEVARD EVERY SATURDAY AT NOONTIME, YOU'LL SEE, SEE ME AND OTHER PEOPLE DOWN BY THE SAFEWAY STORE PROTESTING.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU TO COME AND JOIN US.

I KEEP TELLING PEOPLE IT'S CHEAPER THAN THERAPY.

IT MAKES YOU FEEL GOOD.

EVEN IF IT'S NOT ACCOMPLISHING ANYTHING, AT LEAST YOU ARE TRYING.

SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE THAT.

AND THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.

NEXT SPEAKER IS JOHAN LAOS.

HI COUNSEL.

UH, MY NAME IS JO TAN LAOS.

I AM AN ICU NURSE AT SAN RAMON REGIONAL MEDICAL CENTER.

AND WHILE IT'S THE HOSPITAL IS NOT LOCATED HERE IN DUBLIN, WE DO SERVE A LOT OF OUR, UH, PATIENTS WHO ARE FROM DUBLIN AND WE TAKE GOOD CARE OF THEM.

AND AS A NURSE, MY MESSAGE IS REALLY SIMPLE.

YOU KNOW, ALLOWING EYES RUNNING AROUND LOOSE IN OUR COMMUNITY, UH, WILL SCARE OUR PATIENTS TO SEEKING THE VITAL HEALTHCARE THAT THEY NEED.

ALSO, I DON'T WANT THEM COMING INSIDE OUR HOSPITALS AND YANKING THEM OUT OF THE HOSPITAL BEDS.

AND, YOU KNOW, NURSES ALREADY HAVE A LOT TO DEAL WITH, YOU KNOW, SHORT STAFFING, NO MEAL BREAKS, AND NOW YOU'RE GONNA ADD ICE TO THE LIST.

, COME ON NOW.

SO I, I ALSO LIKE TO THINK, UH, DUBLIN IS THE HEART OF THE TRI-VALLEY.

SO ALLOWING ICE TO COME IN HERE IS LIKE INJECTING A BIG NASTY CHOLESTEROL INTO THAT HEART.

AND YOU DO NOT WANT THAT.

THAT'S GONNA CAUSE A LOT OF CHEST PAIN TO OUR COMMUNITY.

AND LAST BUT NOT THE LEAST, MY MOM RAISED ME WHO'S A, YOU KNOW, FIRST OF FILIPINO.

SHE RAISED ME TO BE OPEN-MINDED.

AND SO HERE'S A PIECE OF THAT OPEN-MINDEDNESS THAT SHE TAUGHT ME.

THE ONLY REASON THAT I'M GONNA ALLOW THIS, UM, FCI DUBLIN TO REOPEN IS IF WE USE IT TO DETAIN EVERY ICE AGENT TRUMP AND ALL OF HIS GOONS.

SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT.

THANK YOU FOR THE TIME.

NEXT SPEAKER IS MUSA TAREK.

GOOD EVENING.

IT'S DEAN, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS MUSA WITH CARE, THE COUNCIL ON AMERICAN ISLAMIC RELATIONS, AND I'M ALSO A LONGTIME TRI-VALLEY RESIDENT.

I WANT TO START AGAIN BY THANKING THIS COUNCIL FOR ADOPTING AN ETHICAL INVESTMENT POLICY IN ENSURING DUBLIN DOES NOT INVEST IN CLIMATE DESTRUCTION OR WAR PROFITEERING.

THAT COMMITMENT MATTERS AND IT CONNECTS DEEPLY TO WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT.

THIS IS A CITY OF IMMIGRANTS, A CITY WHERE OVER 40% OF DUBLIN RESIDENTS ARE FOREIGN BORN.

A CITY BUILT BY FAMILIES FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD.

AND NOW THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WANTS TO PUT AN ICE CAGE IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS COMMUNITY, A COMMUNITY THEY'RE ACTIVELY TARGETING AND TERRORIZING ACROSS ALAMEDA COUNTY, THE BAY AREA, AND CALIFORNIA.

WE MUST NOT FORGET, ICE WAS CREATED AFTER NINE 11 TO TARGET MUSLIMS, UBS, AND IMMIGRANTS.

FOR OVER TWO DECADES, ICE HAS CONTINUED TO VIOLENTLY SCAPEGOAT, TARGET, AND ATTACK IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES, INCLUDING THE VERY COMMUNITIES THAT ARE DUBLIN.

BRINGING A NICE FACILITY HERE WILL BRING

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FTIC VIOLENCE DIRECTLY.

IN SOME DUBLIN NEIGHBORHOODS, PEOPLE WILL BE DRAGGED FROM THEIR HOMES, SCHOOLS AND WORKPLACES.

CHILDREN WILL BECOME AFRAID TO GO TO CLASS.

AND WE'RE ALREADY SEEING THIS HAPPENING ACROSS CALIFORNIA AND THE UNITED STATES.

OVER 70% OF ICE DETAINEES HAVE NO CRIMINAL RECORD.

THEY ARE WORKERS, PARENTS, STUDENTS.

THEY ARE OUR NEIGHBORS.

SIMPLY PUT, TONIGHT WE ARE ASKING THE COUNCIL TO TAKE A CLEAR STAND TO PREVENT ICE'S REIGN OF TERROR FROM COMING TO DUBLIN BY PASSING THE RESOLUTION OPPOSING THE REOPENING OF OF FCI.

DUBLIN.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

NEXT SPEAKER IS AMANDA BERGER.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I ACTUALLY WAS ASKED BY RAMONA KRAUSNICK, WHO'S A 27 YEAR RESIDENT OF, UH, WEST DUBLIN TO READ A STATEMENT FOR HER.

SHE WASN'T ABLE TO BE HERE TONIGHT.

SHE REGRETS THAT AS THE DAUGHTER OF AN ITALIAN AUSTRIAN IMMIGRANT REFUGEE FROM WORLD WAR I I STAND WITH AND SUPPORT IMMIGRANTS.

I'M THE FIRST BORN HERE.

MY FATHER, GRANDMOTHER AND AUNT CAME HERE IN 1920 BECAUSE THEY WERE STARVING AFTER THE WAR.

THEY CAME HERE NOT KNOWING A WORD OF ENGLISH.

MY FATHER, GRANDMOTHER AND AUNT WORKED TO BUILD THIS COUNTRY FROM THE COAL MINES OF EASTERN PENNSYLVANIA TO THE NEW YORK TO NEW YORK TO BUILD THIS TO NEW YORK SUBWAYS, TO BETHLEHEM STEEL TO JANITORIAL WORK IN COLLEGE.

WHEN MY FATHER MOVED, MY MOTHER, BROTHER, AND ME TO A BETTER TOWN NEAR BETHLEHEM STEEL, I FACED DISCRIMINATION BECAUSE WE WERE SO POOR.

THE KIDS THOUGHT I HAD JUST ARRIVED FROM HUNGARY BECAUSE OF MY CLOTHES.

IT WAS 1956, THE YEAR OF THE HUNGARIAN REVOLUTION.

THEY MADE FUN OF ME.

I WAS RAISED IN A BILINGUAL HOUSEHOLD WITH AN ITALIAN AUSTRIAN CULTURE AND NOT THE AMERICAN CULTURE.

SO I WAS A STRANGER IN THE AMERICAN CULTURE.

FAST FORWARD TO TODAY, WHEN IMMIGRANTS WHO CONTINUE TO BUILD THIS COUNTRY ARE ROUNDED UP AND SENT TO DETENTION CENTERS JUST BECAUSE OF THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN AND ACCENT.

THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION BELIEVES ALL IMMIGRANTS ARE CRIMINALS AND THEY ABSOLUTELY ARE NOT.

THEY'RE SENT TO DETENTION CENTERS WITHOUT DUE PROCESS OF THE LAW AND ALSO TO OTHER COUNTRIES.

WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE SENT TO OTHER COUNTRIES? DOES ANYONE KNOW ICE WANTS TO TURN THE FORMER DOUBLING WOMEN'S PRISON INTO A DETENTION CENTER FOR IMMIGRANTS? THIS IS DEFINITELY A MORAL ISSUE AND NOT A POLITICAL ONE.

IF YOU HAVE ANY KIND OF P CONSCIENCE, YOU NEED TO SEE THAT REGARDLESS OF YOUR POLITICAL AFFILIATION, IF THERE ARE NO IMMIGRANTS TO WORK IN THE FIELDS OR CLEAN HOUSES OR HOTELS, OR WORK IN RESTAURANTS OR WORK IN CONSTRUCTION, WILL DONNER TRUMP AND HIS CABINET AND SUPPORTERS DO IT? I DON'T THINK SO.

THE IMMIGRANTS ARE DOING WHAT AMERICANS DO NOT WANT TO DO.

THE FORMER WOMEN'S PRISON NEEDS TO BE TORN DOWN BECAUSE OF ITS HISTORY OF SEXUAL ABUSE AND CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, WHICH IS WHY IT WAS CLOSED.

I SAY ABSOLUTELY NO TO TURNING THE PRISON INTO A DETENTION CENTER.

WE DO NOT WANT TO SEE IMMIGRANTS ROUNDED UP AND PUT IN A DETENTION CENTER, PERIOD.

FULL STOP.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER IS MIKE GRANT.

GOOD EVENING, MIKE GRANT.

I RUN GUNS UNLIMITED IN TOWN FOR 49 YEARS UNDER THE A TF TONIGHT.

I'VE COME HERE TO SUPPORT THE OPENING OF THE NEW ICE FACILITY IN DUBLIN.

EVEN THOUGH THIS CITY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FEDERAL PROPERTY, I MEAN, IT'S VITAL THAT WE GATHER UP ALL THESE ILLEGALS AND DEPORT THEM UNDER OUR LAW.

THEY ARE CRIMINALS.

IF THEY DIDN'T COME THROUGH THE PORT OF ENTRY, THEY'RE CRIMINALS.

JUST LAST WEEK, ICE PUT OUT A REQUEST FOR HELP WITH CONTRACTORS TO HELP LOCATE THESE CRIMINALS.

THE NAME THEY'RE CALLING IT IS SKIP TRACING.

THEY WANT BOUNTY HUNTERS TO LOCATE, CALL IN INFORMATION TO ICE LOCATIONS, PICTURES, VEHICLES, PLATES, HOME ADDRESSES IF POSSIBLE.

AND THEY'RE GOING TO HIRE UP TO 50,000 CONTRACTORS AND SPEND, I GUESS, $180 MILLION, WHICH IS GOOD.

AS I SAID BEFORE, I WAS ON THE BORDER FOR NINE WEEKS.

NONE OF THESE PEOPLE WENT TO THE BORDER FOR NINE WEEKS AND SEEN THE INVASION WE HAD GOING ON.

WHEN THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION WAS IN, I WAS IN YUMA, SOCAL, TUCSON SECTOR RIGHT DOWN IN THE MIDDLE OF DRUG COUNTRY, SEEING THE WHOLE THING, THE CARTEL ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BORDER WITH AK 40 SEVENS.

THE US TAXPAYERS PAID BILLIONS

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OF DOLLARS TO PUT THESE PEOPLE UP, HEALTHCARE, FOOD HOMES, TRANSPORTATION'S.

YET OUR DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSMAN WHO STOOD RIGHT OUT IN FRONT OF CITY HALL HERE, FORGOT TO MENTION THE PART THAT HE DIDN'T OPPOSE THAT, BUT YET THEY ALL CRIED THE BLUES, HOW THE, DURING THE SHUTDOWN, ALL THIS HEALTHCARE AND ALL THIS STUFF, THESE PEOPLE ARE, OOH, THE END OF THE WORLD WAS COMING.

THE COMMENT MADE EARLIER BY ONE OF THE PEOPLE SAID, IT'S NOT A CRIME TO BE IN THE COUNTRY.

WELL, HE'S WRONG.

IT'S A FEDERAL CRIME TO ENTER THE US IF YOU'RE NOT COMING THROUGH A PORT OF ENTRY.

THE LAW IS SECTION EIGHT USC 1325, AS SUGGEST ALL THE PEOPLE BEHIND ME.

LOOK IT UP.

DO NOT PASS A RESOLUTION.

STAY OUT OF NATIONAL POLITICS.

YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST.

WE DON'T GET INVOLVED IN IT.

THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER IS SAAL SAAN.

WOLSKI, MADAM MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.

THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS SAAN WOLSKI.

I AM A RESIDENT AND, UH, BUSINESS OWNER HERE IN CITY OF DUBLIN.

FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS, I, UH, I WAS REALLY CONFLICTED TO COME AND SPEAK TODAY ON A PERSONAL, UH, REASONS DUE TO DESERT STORM.

I WAS, UH, AS A BUSINESS OWNER HERE IN DUBLIN, I WAS HARASSED AND IT WAS HARD TO CONTINUE TO BE A RESIDENT AND IT BASED ON SKIN OF MY COLOR AND BEING IN PUBLIC, UM, IT, I, AND THE TRAUMA OF IT IS WHAT REALLY CONFLICTED ME FROM STANDING HERE.

BUT I HAD TO SPEAK FOR THE OTHERS BECAUSE I DO NOT WANT TO SEE THAT HAPPEN TO OTHER PEOPLE HERE IN OUR CITY, THE CITY THAT I LOVE, THE CITY THAT, UH, TOLERANCE OF AND THE CITY THAT WELCOME ALL THE IMMIGRANTS AND ALL OF US.

AND I SEE ALL OF YOUR FACES COME FROM ALL DIFFERENT PLACES, ALL DIFFERENT NATIONALITIES, AND THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF OUR CITY OF DUBLIN.

SO I STAND HERE TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO PASS A RESOLUTION, NOT TO OPEN REOPEN THE RCI HERE, FCI HERE IN DUBLIN, AND, UH, BE PROACTIVE TO SUPPORT YOUR COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NEXT SPEAKER IS KELSEY SHEEL.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS KELSEY SHEEL, AND I'M A LIFELONG DUBLIN RESIDENT FROM DISTRICT ONE.

I GRADUATED FROM DUBLIN HIGH BACK IN 2007 AND NOW HAVE MY MASTER'S DEGREE IN SOCIAL WORK, SPECIALIZING IN WORKING WITH CHILDREN, YOUTH, AND FAMILIES.

AS A SOCIAL WORKER AND THERAPIST, MY JOB IS TO MINIMIZE HUMAN SUFFERING.

AND AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, MY JOB HAS BEEN ESPECIALLY HARD LATELY.

THE TRUMP REGIME LAUNCHED A TERROR CAMPAIGN AGAINST BLACK AND BROWN FAMILIES AGAINST CITIZENS AND NON-CITIZENS IN LA, CHICAGO, PORTLAND, CHARLOTTE, AND OTHER CITIES.

AND NOW THEY'RE AT OUR DOORSTEP.

STUDIES SHOW THAT ICE ACTIVITY INCREASES DRAMATICALLY IN AREAS SURROUNDING DETENTION CENTERS.

THIS MEANS AN INCREASED PRESENCE OF MASK MEN TEARING APART FAMILIES AND VIOLATING COMMUNITY MEMBERS' RIGHT TO DO PROCESS.

THIS MEANS IRREPARABLE TRAUMA INFLICTED ON OUR FRIENDS, ON OUR NEIGHBORS, AND ON US.

IF FCI, DUBLIN IS REOPENED AS AN ICE DETENTION CENTER, THE DUBLIN CITY COUNCIL HAS UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS, CITIZENS AND NON-CITIZENS ALIKE, TO SET AN EXAMPLE FOR NEIGHBORING CITIES AND TO PREVENT HUMAN SUFFERING.

THAT IS WHY I'M CALLING ON THE COUNCIL TO PASS A RESOLUTION TO OPPOSE THE REOPENING OF FCI DUBLIN AS AN IMMIGRATION DETENTION CENTER.

THANK YOU.

AND WE HAVE A LAST GROUP OF SIX SPEAKERS HERE IN THE CHAMBER BEFORE DOING TWO ON ZOOM.

SO OUR LAST GROUP OF SPEAKERS ARE MICHAEL TSUI, ANNA ZA VANGA, AMBER DOYLE, ONG, KANI, JOSE AND JASMINE.

SO THIS FIRST SPEAKER, SPEAKER IS MICHAEL TSUI.

I READ YOUR NAME.

FEEL FREE TO LINE UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CHAMBER, PLEASE.

GOOD EVENING.

UH, HONORABLE MAYOR WHO CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF, UH, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.

MY NAME IS MICHAEL LUI, 7 8 8 3 CROSS RIDGE ROAD, AND I'M A PLUS 30 YEAR RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF DUBLIN.

I STAND BEFORE YOU TO ADDRESS WHAT IS FOR SOME IS THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM, BUT OBVIOUSLY THE ELEPHANT'S

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IN THE ROOM.

IT'S BLOCKING THE EXIT DOOR.

SO LET ME BE CLEAR.

UH, I AM ARDEN AGAINST ANY CONSIDERATION TO REOPEN FCI DUBLIN FOR EXPANDING ICE IMMIGRATION DETENTION AT THEIR, AT THIS STAGE, THERE'S REALLY NO NEED TO RECOUNT ALL THE SORTED TRAIL OF EVENTS THAT HAVE LED TO ITS ULTIMATE CLOSURE.

HOWEVER, THE POTENTIAL FOR REOPENING THIS FACILITY TO INCARCERATE THOSE WHO HAVE ROUTINELY HAD THEIR CIVIL RIGHTS AND PROPER DUE PROCESS DENIED WOULD BE THE ULTIMATE INDIGNITY.

I DO NOT WANNA SPEND TIME HERE EXPRESSING MY FRUSTRATION AT THE ACTIONS INITIATED BY THE FEDERAL ADMINISTRATION THAT HAS LED US TO THIS CROSSROADS.

INSTEAD, I WOULD PREFER TO FOCUS ON WHAT CAN BE DONE BY MANY OF US HERE AND JUST A FEW OF YOU WHO ARE EMPOWERED TO DO SO.

TONIGHT, I STOOD IN SOLIDARITY WITH OTHERS OUTSIDE IN THE PLAZA FOR THIS COMMON BELIEF.

MY FAMILY AND I MARCHED WITH FRIENDS TWICE THIS YEAR IN SUPPORT OF MIGUEL LOPEZ AND TO RESIST KINGS.

I DO NOT WANT DUBLIN TO BECOME THE NEXT CHARLOTTE, NORTH CAROLINA.

MY NEIGHBORS AND I DO NOT WANT TO, UH, OUR CITY TO REPRESENT THE NEXT EPICENTER OF PROJECT 2025.

BUT THERE IS A LIMIT TO THE POWER THAT I HAVE.

I AM NOT IN POSSESSION OF LEGISLATIVE AUTHORITY.

HOWEVER, ONLY THE FIVE OF YOU HAVE THAT ABILITY OVER THE JURISDICTION OF ALMOST OVER 80,000 RESIDENTS.

I DON'T EXPECT YOU TO BE MIND READERS.

THIS IS WHY I'VE CHOSEN TO COME HERE PUBLICLY TO EXPRESS MY STANCE ON THIS MATTER IN RECIPROCATION.

I INVITE YOU TO COME OVER TO MY HOME TO CONSIDER YOUR OPINIONS ON THE SAME, MY CONTACT INFORMATION'S ON THE SPEAKER SHEET, BUT LET US NOT FORGET THEY DO NOT REOPEN OR REHABILITATE PRISONS TO HAVE THEM REMAIN EMPTY.

I ENCOURAGE YOU TO ACT COURAGEOUSLY AND TO BE GUIDED BY YOUR HEART.

THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER IS ANNA ZAA.

GOOD EVENING COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS ANNA ZAMBOANGA.

UM, I GREW UP IN DUBLIN.

MY PARENTS GREW UP IN DUBLIN, AND MY GRANDPARENTS IMMIGRATED HERE TO CHASE THEIR DREAMS, UM, WHICH HAS GIVEN ME THE PRIVILEGE OF STANDING IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY.

SO I'M HERE TONIGHT TO ASK THE DUBLIN CITY COUNCIL TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION OPPOSING THE CONVERSION OF THE FEDERAL CORRECTION FACILITY IN DUBLIN INTO AN ICE DETENTION CENTER.

I SPEAK NOT ONLY FOR MYSELF, BUT FOR MY GRANDPARENTS WHO BECAME US CITIZENS, BUT WHO ARE FIRST AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, HUMAN BEINGS WHO HAD THE CHANCE FOR A NEW BEGINNING WITHOUT THE FEAR OF VIOLENCE AND HARASSMENT.

WE KNOW WHAT THE RESEARCH SHOWS FOR COMMUNITIES NEAR IMMIGRATION DETENTION CENTERS.

WE'VE SEEN THE STORIES OF UNJUST VIOLENCE AND FEAR CAST OVER COMMUNITIES.

SO INSTEAD, I WILL TAKE THIS TIME TO SHARE A PIECE OF WRITING FROM MY LATE GRANDMOTHER'S DIARY ON HER EXPERIENCE IMMIGRATING HERE, DUBLIN, CALIFORNIA FROM THE PHILIPPINES.

SHE GOES ON TO WRITE, MY FATHER DIED AND I WAS HEARTBROKEN.

I WAS SO SAD THAT I WASN'T ABLE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL HE HAD DONE FOR ME.

I BLAME MYSELF FOR NOT TRYING TO KNOW HIM MORE.

HE SUPPORTED ME IN MANY WAYS IN MAKING MY DECISIONS.

I WOULD NOT BE HERE IN THE CALIFORNIA, IF NOT FOR MY FATHER, WHO WORKED SO HARD TO HELP ME.

SO SPEAKING OUT TODAY IS MY THANK YOU TO HER, TO MY ANCESTORS, AND TO ALL MY IMMIGRANT GRANDPARENTS.

I ALSO WANT TO MENTION SHE LATER WORKED FOR THE COUNTY OF ALAMEDA AS AN ACCOUNTING CLERK, RETIRING WITH 20 YEARS OF SERVICE.

SHE WAS A PUBLIC SERVANT TO THIS COMMUNITY AND, AND AN IMMIGRANT WHO HAD A DREAM.

I'M FOLLOWING IN HER FOOTSTEPS AND I NOW WORK IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

AND MY CAREER BEGAN HERE AT THE CITY OF DUBLIN.

WHEN I COMPLETED AN INTERNSHIP IN 2022 TO 2023, I TOOK GREAT PRIDE IN MY WORK HERE.

THE CITY OF DUBLIN AND THE CITY MY IMMIGRANTS TURNED TO AS A DREAM.

I CONTINUED TO TAKE GREAT PRIDE WORKING AS A PUBLIC SERVANT IN A FULL-TIME POSITION, BUT I WILL NO LONGER TAKE PRIDE IN A CITY AND COUNCIL THAT DOES NOT PROTECT ITS PEOPLE AND DOES NOT HEAR THE CONCERNS OF THEIR COMMUNITY.

IT'S YOUR JOB TO PROTECT AND SERVE AND TO LAY THE GROUNDWORK TO REPAIR AND REBUILD.

AS I GROW MY CAREER WORKING IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT, I LOOK TO YOU TO BE THE EXAMPLE OF WHAT A GREAT LEADER LOOKS LIKE.

AS THE GRANDDAUGHTER OF AN IMMIGRANT, I URGE YOU ALL TO TAKE ALL NECESSARY ACTIONS TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY AND TO OPPOSE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF ICE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER IS AMBER DOYLE.

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HI, MY NAME'S AMBER AND I'M HERE TONIGHT TO ASK THE DUBLIN CITY COUNCIL TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION OPPOSING TO THE CONVERSION OF THE CLOSED FEDERAL CORRECTION FEDERAL CORRECTIONAL INSTITUTION IN DUBLIN INTO AN ICE DETENTION CENTER.

THE FACILITY REPRESENTS SYSTEMIC VIOLENCE AND OPPRESSION.

ALLOWING IT TO REOPEN WILL ONLY PERPETUATE SAID VIOLENCE.

AS A DUBLIN RESIDENT, WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE OPENING OF AN ICE DETENTION CENTER, IT DOES NOT MAKE ME FEEL SAFE IN MY COMMUNITY.

IT IS DEPLORABLE, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE DUBLIN PRIDES ITSELF ON DIVERSITY.

AS I HAVE GROWN UP AND LEARNED ABOUT THE WORLD, I'VE REALIZED THE IMPORT IMPORTANCE OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

IF YOU WANNA BE ABOUT IT, THEN BE ABOUT IT.

YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A VERY INFLUENTIAL DECISION IN THE FUTURE.

THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER IS TARA KANI.

UH, HI COUNCIL AND UH, MAYOR AND EVERYONE OVER HERE.

I'M VERY GLAD TO SEE SO MANY PEOPLE ENGAGED IN THE COMMUNITY.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'M SEEING SO MUCH ENGAGEMENT HERE IN DUBLIN.

I'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE AND, UH, PREVIOUSLY I HAD INTRODUCED OPEN GOVERNANCE INITIATIVE AND I WANT, I'M GLAD TO SAY NOW, WE ARE ACTUALLY COVERING DUBLIN AS A NEWS AND WE ARE PUBLISHED, UH, TILL NOW SEVEN ARTICLES AND WE'LL BE GETTING FEEDBACK FROM ALL OF YOU GUYS.

I'M ALSO CURRENTLY HERE TO PUT, PUT MY PROTEST AGAINST THE ICE FACILITY, AND I WANT TO COUNCIL TO SPEAK UP WHILE THEY HAVE THEIR PUBLIC, UH, TIME AFTER THE IN THE AGENDA ITEM.

THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER IS JOSE.

GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYOR.

UH, I'M GOING TO BE READING A STATEMENT, A WRITTEN STATEMENT FROM A COMMUNITY RESIDENT WHO UNFORTUNATELY COULDN'T BE HERE, UH, DUE TO BEING AFRAID OF THEIR SAFETY SHOWING UP TONIGHT, BUT STILL WANTED TO HAVE THEIR VOICE HEARD.

I WILL FIRST BE READING IN SPANISH AND INTERPRETING JOSE DUBLIN GOING TO INTERPRET.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS JOSE AND I LIVE IN THE BAY AREA.

AS AN IMMIGRANT WOMAN, I AM, UH, I HAVE BEEN DEEPLY AFFECTED BY THE KIDNAPPING OF MY FAMILY MEMBER AS HE WAS DETAINED BY ICE THREE WEEKS AGO.

THE THE PSYCHOLOGICAL TRAUMA THE SEPARATION HAS CAUSED TO ME, MY MOTHER AND MY 3-YEAR-OLD SISTER IS IMMENSE BECAUSE SHE CONSTANTLY ASKS, WHERE IS DAD? MY MOTHER HAS NO ANSWER TO THIS DAY BECAUSE HE WAS KIDNAPPED FOR NO REASON, SUPPOSEDLY FOR BEING ILLEGAL.

BUT REMEMBER, NO ONE IS ILLEGAL ON STOLEN LAND ING.

THE FEDERAL WOMEN'S PRISON AS A DETENTION CENTER WILL NOT ONLY AFFECT ME AND MY FAMILY, BUT THE ENTIRE DUBLIN AND BAY AREA RESIDENTS AS THEY ARE TARGETING EVERYONE WITHOUT RESPECTING DUE PROCESS OF OUR RIGHTS AS HUMAN BEINGS.

I URGE YOU, THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS OF DUBLIN, TO DO WHATEVER YOU CAN, CAN'T PREVENT THE REOPENING OF THE FEDERAL WOMEN'S PRISON AS A DETENTION CENTER.

IT IS MY RESPONSIBILITY AND THE RESPONSIBILITY OF ALL OF YOU AS REPRESENTATIVES OF DUBLIN TO ACT DILIGENTLY TO PREVENT IMMIGRATION FROM OPENING A DETENTION CENTER IN THE CITY.

IT'S MY RESPONSIBILITY AND THE RESPONSIBILITY OF YOU AS REPRESENTATIVES TO TAKE ACTION AND IMPEDE THIS FACILITY FROM

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OPENING UP AT ALL COSTS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER IS JASMINE.

MY NAME IS YASMINE.

UM, I JUST WANNA ADD MY 2 CENTS.

AS SOMEBODY WHO WORKS ALL OVER THIS COMMUNITY TENDS TO TAKE CARE OF OUR MOST VULNERABLE MEMBERS, I ASK YOU, HAVE YOU EVER STOOD IN FRONT OF ONE OF OUR KIDS THAT GOES TO OUR SCHOOLS AND HAD TO ANSWER, WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO IF MY MOM GETS TAKEN? I, HAVE YOU EVER HAD A MOM BREAK DOWN IN THE MIDDLE OF YOUR PANTRY BECAUSE SHE'S AFRAID TO SEND HER KIDS TO SCHOOL AND GIVES YOU THIS LONG STORY OF ALL THESE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING DESPITE, YOU KNOW, SHE'S WORKING THREE JOBS, SINGLE MOM I HAVE, AND THAT'S EVEN WITHOUT ICE BEING HERE.

UM, I WANNA PIGGYBACK ON WHAT EVERYONE BEFORE ME HAS SAID, BUT ESPECIALLY MARELLA WHEN SHE WAS SPEAKING EARLIER.

UM, IT IS DIFFICULT AS SOMEONE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO ALSO COMES FROM IMMIGRANTS AND IS AN IMMIGRANT.

SO I ASK YOU ALL, BECAUSE I KNOW MOST OF YOU DO A LOT OF THINGS IN THIS COMMUNITY TO TAKE A STAND AND NOT OPEN AN ICE FACILITY IN A PLACE.

BY THE WAY, IRONICALLY ACROSS THE STREET WHERE WE WANTED TO OPEN EMERALD HIGH SCHOOL, JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE, UM, EITHER WAY, IF IT'S A WOMEN'S PRISON OR AN ICE DETENTION CENTER, OBVIOUSLY WITH EVERYTHING EVERYONE ELSE HAS SAID, STATISTICALLY IT IS NOT A GOOD IDEA TO OPEN.

BUT ON A HUMAN LEVEL, I HOPE YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE TO FACE A 7-YEAR-OLD WHO'S IN TEARS BECAUSE THEY'RE AFRAID TO COME TO SCHOOL.

THAT HAS HAPPENED.

IT IS HAPPENING.

AND YES, WE'VE HAD IMPACT IN OUR STUDENTS NOT SHOWING UP AND IT HAS AFFECTED US CURRENTLY, AND THAT'S WITHOUT A CENTER.

SO I JUST WANTED TO ADD MY 2 CENTS AND I HOPE YOU GUYS HAVE A GOOD EVENING.

NEXT SPEAKER IS LIZ SCHMIDT.

GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I SPEAK TO YOU AS A DUBLIN RESIDENT AND AS A LIAISON BETWEEN TRI-VALLEY IS DIVISIBLE AND THE CITY OF DUBLIN.

A DETENTION CENTER IN DUBLIN WOULD HAVE PROFOUND AND HARMFUL CONSEQUENCES.

IT WOULD INCREASE FEAR AND ANXIETY AMONG OUR RESIDENTS, DUPLICATE THE DISRUPTION EXPERIENCE IN OTHER CITIES WITH ICE FACILITIES AND CREATE A CHILLING, UM, EFFECT ON PUBLIC LIFE.

AND WE MUST REMEMBER THAT THERE ARE DUBLIN RESIDENTS WHO ARE CURRENTLY IN IMMIGRATION PROCEEDINGS.

THESE RESIDENTS ARE MORE LIKELY TO BE TARGETED BY ICE, THE NEAR RIGHT DETENTION CENTER.

WE'VE ALREADY SEEN ONE ARREST IN DUBLIN ACROSS THE NATION.

CITIES AND JURISDICTIONS HAVE TAKEN A PUBLIC STAND AGAINST ISIS.

HARMFUL PRACTICES COMMUNITIES AS DIVERSE AS ALAMEDA COUNTY, LOS ANGELES, CHICAGO, DALLAS, PROVIDENCE, SEATTLE, EL PASO, NASHVILLE, AND LAS CRUCES HAVE PASSED RESOLUTIONS OR MADE THEIR OBJECTIONS KNOWN.

THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE HAS FOCUSED ITS ATTACKS ON LARGE CITIES.

WORK CAN SCORE POLITICAL POINTS, AND EVEN IN THOSE CASES, CITIES HAVE OR HAVE REPEATEDLY PREVAILED IN COURT.

THESE THREATS ARE NOTHING MORE THAN INTIMIDATION AND ATTEMPT TO QUEER CITIES INTO COMPLIANCE COURTS HAVE FREQUENTLY STOPPED THESE THREATS.

ON APRIL 24TH, A FEDERAL COURT BLOCKED THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION FROM WITHHOLDING FUNDING FROM A DOZEN SANCTUARY JURISDICTIONS ON MAY 7TH.

THE SAME COURT CLARIFIED THAT THE ADMINISTRATION COULD NOT CIRCUMVENT IT, THE COURT WITH NEW ORDERS.

THEN ON JUNE 19TH, ANOTHER FEDERAL COURT BLOCKED THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR RESTRICTING FUNDING TO STATES THAT REFUSE TO COOPERATE WITH IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT.

THESE RULINGS MAKE ONE THING CLEAR.

THESE FEDERAL LAWSUITS ARE LEGALLY BASELESS AS THE COURTS HAVE AFFIRMED IN THE US VERSUS CALIFORNIA.

REFUSING TO HELP IS NOT THE SAME AS IMPEDING.

SOME SAY THAT WE SHOULD NOT INVOLVE OURSELVES IN NATIONAL POLICY, BUT THROUGHOUT OUR HISTORY, AMERICANS HAVE SPOKEN OUT LOUDLY AND PROUDLY.

WHENEVER GOVERNMENT ACTIONS THREATENED OUR VALUES OR OUR SAFETY, THAT IS NOT MEDDLING, THAT IS DEMOCRACY.

THE NATIONAL POLITICS BECOME LOCAL POLITICS.

WHEN THE MOVEMENT, WHEN THE THEY AFFECT OUR CITIZENS.

WE DO NOT LIVE IN A VACUUM.

THE MONETARY RISKS OF PASSING THIS RESOLUTION ARE MINIMAL COMPARED TO THE HUMAN COSTS.

THE WORST FINANCIAL ICE OUTCOME WOULD BE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WITHHOLDING SOME FUNDING AND ACTION REPEATEDLY STRUCK DOWN BY THE COURT.

BUT THE HUMAN COST IS GREATER.

RESIDENTS, ESPECIALLY NON-WHITE RESIDENTS, MAY FACE HARASSMENT, INTIMIDATION, OR WRONGFUL DETENTION.

FAMILIES MAY BE TORN APART.

OUR COMMUNITY SENSE OF SAFETY WILL THE ROAD PASSING.

A RESOLUTION IS NOT SYMBOLIC.

IT'S A CLEAR MESSAGE TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT WE WILL NOT PERMIT THE ABUSES WE HAVE SEEN IN OTHER CITIES.

TO TAKE ROOT HERE, WE MUST PROTECT OUR CI, OUR NEIGHBORS, AND OUR CITIZENS.

WE MUST SPEAK UP WHEN ANY GOVERNMENT VIOLATES PEOPLE'S RIGHTS, PEOPLE'S RIGHTS.

AND WE MUST RECOGNIZE THAT A CLIMATE OF FEAR MAKES EVERYONE LESS SAFE.

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THIS ACTION IS NOT JUST A POLITICAL ACT, IT IS ALSO A MORAL ONE.

IT TELLS OUR RESIDENTS THAT WE SEE THEM, WE STAND WITH THEM, AND WE REFUSE TO ALLOW FEAR TO DEFINE OUR CITY.

THANK YOU.

WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS ON ZOOM.

THE FIRST SPEAKER IS SIMA.

BADAR.

GOOD EVENING.

CAN YOU HEAR ME SO WE CAN HEAR YOU? GO AHEAD.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.

COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS SIMA BUTER AND I'M A RESIDENT OF DUBLIN AND, UH, DISTRICT ONE.

I'M A PROUD DAUGHTER OF IMMIGRANTS TO THIS COUNTRY, AND DUBLIN HAS BEEN MY HOME FOR MANY YEARS.

MY PARENTS CAME TO THE UNITED STATES SEEKING OPPORTUNITY, SAFETY, AND DIGNITY.

THE SAME VALUES THAT SO MANY IMMIGRANT FAMILIES IN OUR COMMUNITY HERE IN DUBLIN CONTINUE TO PURSUE THOSE VALUES, SHAPE MY CHILDHOOD, SHAPE THE WOMEN I AM TODAY AND SHAPE WHY I'M HERE TONIGHT SPEAKING TO YOU, I WANT TO BEGIN BY THANKING YOU FOR YOUR CONCERN YOU EXPRESSED IN OCTOBER FOR OUR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES AFTER THE ESCALATION OF FEDERAL AGENTS IN THE BAY AREA AND FOR YOUR AMENDMENT TO THE CITY'S INVESTMENT POLICY, ENSURING THAT DUBLIN DOES NOT INVEST IN COMPANIES THAT IN INVOLVED IN WAR MASS SURVEILLANCE, INCARCERATION, OR DETENTION.

THAT TOOK COURAGE AND I DEEPLY APPRECIATE IT.

TONIGHT, I'M HERE TO URGE YOU TO TAKE ONE MORE COURAGEOUS STEP.

PLEASE PASS A RESOLUTION OPPOSING THE POSSIBLE REOPENING OF FCI DUBLIN AS AN IMMIGRATION DETENTION FACILITY.

DUBLIN IS A CITY OF IMMIGRANTS.

IN FACT, THE US CENSUS BUREAU ESTIMATES MORE THAN 40% OF OUR POPULATION IS FOREIGN BORN.

WE ARE A COMMUNITY BUILT BY FAMILIES WHO CAME FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD, ASIA, THE PACIFIC, LATIN AMERICA, AND THE MIDDLE EAST, BRINGING WITH THEM THEIR WORK ETHIC, THEIR DREAMS, THEIR CULTURES, AND THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS.

IMMIGRANT WORKERS, FAMILIES, BUSINESS OWNERS AND STUDENTS HAVE BEEN ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL TO DUBLIN'S GROWTH AND PROSPERITY.

I SEE THIS EVERY DAY IN OUR SCHOOLS, IN OUR SMALL BUSINESSES, OUR FAITH INSTITUTIONS, AND THE CIVIC ENGAGEMENT OF RESIDENTS WHO LOVE THE CITY TO EVEN CONSIDER REOPENING FCI DUBLIN AS AN IMMIGRATION DETENTION CENTER THREATENS THAT DIGNITY AND THEIR DIGNITY AND THE SAFETY OF THE VERY PEOPLE WHO MAKE DUBLIN.

WHAT IT IS, THE CURRENT NATIONAL RHETORIC IS VILIFYING IMMIGRANTS, PAINTING THEM AS CRIMINALS, PORTRAYING THEM AS CULTURALLY INFERIOR AND EVEN EXPRESSING PREFERENCE FOR WHITE EUROPEANS.

WE HAVE SEEN THIS KIND OF SKATEBOARDING BEFORE IN HISTORY, AND WE MUST BE BRAVE ENOUGH TO REJECT IT.

AS PEOPLE OF CONSCIOUS, WE CANNOT ALLOW A FACILITY WITH A HORRIFIC LEGACY OF ABUSE TO BE REPURPOSED, TO DETAIN VULNERABLE IMMIGRANT FAMILIES IN OUR OWN BACKYARD.

DUBLIN SHOULD BE A CITY THAT PROTECTS ITS RESIDENTS, NOT ONE THAT ALLOWS OUR IMMIGRANT NEIGHBORS TO BE DETAINED, DEHUMANIZED AND SEPARATED FROM THEIR FAMILIES.

I URGE YOU TO STAND WITH OUR COMMUNITY, UPHOLD OUR VALUES, AND ADOPT A RESOLUTION OPPOSING THE REOPENING OF THE SCI DUBLIN DUBLIN AS AN IMMIGRATION AND DETENTION FACILITY.

I ASK THAT YOU PLEASE PUT THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA FOR YOUR DECEMBER 2ND MEETING.

THANK YOU.

AND THE NEXT SPEAKER IS HEBA K ON ZOOM.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? I HEAR YOU.

OKAY, GREAT.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS HEBA GAZA.

I SPEAK WITH YOU TONIGHT TO URGE THE DUBLIN CITY COUNCIL TO PASS A RESOLUTION TO OPPOSE THE OPENING OF AN IMMIGRATION DETENTION FACILITY IN DUBLIN.

I'M A RESIDENT OF DUBLIN IN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT ONE DUBLIN.

THE CITY WE LOVE IS A CITY OF IMMIGRANTS.

THE ONE THING ALL IMMIGRANTS HAVE IN COMMON IS A HOPE AND PERSEVERANCE TO SEEK A BETTER FUTURE FOR THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES.

IT IS THIS IMMIGRANT MINDSET THAT HAS BEEN A PART OF DUBLIN'S OWN INCREDIBLE GROWTH AND PROSPERITY.

BUT WE LIVE IN AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE IMMIGRANTS ARE A TARGET FOR OPPRESSION AND VIOLENCE, BRAZENLY AND OUT IN THE OPEN BY ICE.

YEARS AGO, UH, I REPRESENTED PRO BONO IN IMMIGRATION COURT MINORS WHO CROSSED THE BORDER INTO TEXAS FLEEING VIOLENCE AND ABUSE.

SMALL CHILDREN WHO ATTEND IMMIGRATION COURT ALONE, OR IF THEY'RE LUCKY WITH AN AUNT OR A COUSIN, THE CHILDREN WOULD SIT IN WITNESS CHAIRS WHERE THEIR FEET WOULD DANGLE AND NOT REACH THE GROUND.

MANY DID NOT HAVE ATTORNEYS.

OUR BROKEN IMMIGRATION SYSTEM HAS FOR A VERY LONG TIME BEEN A BUREAUCRATIC MAZE.

BUT NOW EVEN THE PEOPLE WHO CAN SUCCESSFULLY NAVIGATE THAT MAZE ARE AT RISK.

WE HAVE ALL PROBABLY SEEN ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND OTHER PLACES THE VIDEOS OF ICE AGENTS SHOWING UP IN UNMARKED CARS, WEARING MASKS, NOT SHOWING IDENTIFICATION AND VIOLENTLY RIPPING PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR LIVES.

THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE AND MAKE NO MISTAKE, NO ONE IS SAFE FROM ISIS VIOLENCE.

US CITIZENS AND GREEN CARD HOLDERS HAVE BEEN DETAINED WITHOUT LEGITIMATE CHARGES AND LEGAL STATUS HOLDERS, SUCH AS THE LITTLE KIDS WHO I WOULD HELP TO GET ASYLUM ARE AT RISK BECAUSE THEIR LEGAL STATUS IS TREATED AS REVOCABLE OR CANCELED ON SHAM CHARGES.

ICE RAIDS NO MATTER WHO THEY TARGET, CREATE COMMUNITY COMMUNITY-WIDE FEAR AND SUPPRESS CIVIL PARTICIPATION, REDUCE TRUST IN GOVERNMENT AND DISCOURAGE PEOPLE FROM SEEKING MEDICAL CARE

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AND REPORTING CRIMES EVEN THOUGH LOCAL ECONOMIES SUFFER DUE TO THE TERROR CAUSED BY ICE SWEEPS, WHICH CHILLS LOCAL COMMERCE.

I HAVE LIVED HERE FOR FIVE YEARS AND WILL FOR A LONG TIME.

MY KID GOES TO A DUBLIN USD SCHOOL.

MANY OF OUR EXTENDED FAMILY MEMBERS ARE A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY.

I KNOW THIS COMMUNITY AND I KNOW DUBLIN DOES NOT SUPPORT ICE ICE DETENTION.

FACILITIES ARE INHUMANE SPACES.

DETAINEES HAVE SPEL DEALT WITH FOUL TASTING WATER, ROTTEN FOODS, SEWAGE BACKUPS, AND INADEQUATE MEDICAL CARE.

THEY HAVE DEALT WITH ABUSE, COERCION, OVERCROWDING, AND PREVENTABLE, UH, PREVENTABLE DEATHS.

WE DO NOT WANT THESE HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES NEXT DOOR.

OPENING AN IMMIGRATION DETENTION FACILITY WILL BE A DRAIN IN OUR RESOURCES.

IT WILL BURDEN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, SEWAGE, HEALTHCARE, ROADS, AND UTILITIES.

DUBLIN DOES NOT SUPPORT ICE.

I AM URGING YOU TO TAKE A STAND AT THIS CRUCIAL MOMENT BECAUSE SILENCE IS NOT AN OPTION.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I HAVE NO MORE SPEAKER SLIPS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU EVERYONE, AND FOR COMING TODAY AND ALSO SHARING, UH, YOUR COMMENTS.

WE TRULY APPRECIATE YOUR ENGAGEMENT AND WE APPRECIATE THE TIME YOU HAVE TAKEN TO VOICE YOUR THOUGHTS.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE FROM OUR, UM, COUNCIL AND WE, WE HAVE VERY DIVERSE COUNCIL HERE MYSELF.

I'M, I'M THE FIRST GENERATION IMMIGRANT.

I CAME TO THIS COUNTRY WHEN I WAS IN MY LATE THIRTIES IN MY, UM, ALMOST 30.

SO I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AND I FEEL HOW YOU FEEL, UH, BUT THIS IS A NON GENERALIZED ITEM WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DISCUSS.

BUT I WOULD ASK OUR CITY MANAGER TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS BECAUSE WE HAVE TAKEN A LOT OF ACTIONS.

YOU MAY NOT BE AWARE.

AND ALSO WE ARE IN SOME SITUATIONS YOU MAY NOT BE CLEAR.

SO WE ASK OUR CITY MANAGER TO MAKE A COMMENT.

THANK YOU.

MAYOR.

ARE YOU ASKING, UH, FROM, ARE YOU ASKING WHICH ACTIONS WE'VE TAKEN SO FAR? SO FAR? YES.

SO, UM, WE HAVE, UH, WRITTEN TWO LETTERS OF OPPOSITION, UM, TWO ICE COMING TO DUBLIN.

UH, ONE WAS IN APRIL AND ONE WAS AT THE, UH, I THINK IT WAS THIS WEEK.

WE SENT IT.

AND, AND IT WAS, UM, UH, VOICING OUR CONCERNS ABOUT THE FACILITY BEING UNSAFE AND UNFIT, VOICING OUR CONCERNS ABOUT THE, UH, STRUCTURE BEING INADEQUATE, VOICING OUR CONCERNS ABOUT THE FACILITY BEING, UH, LOCATED NEAR A RESIDENTIAL AREA AND THE IMPACTS ON OUR CITY INFRASTRUCTURE.

UH, WE ALSO, UM, ASKED FOR INFORMATION, WHICH WE'VE BEEN DOING ACTUALLY SINCE BEFORE WE SENT THE LETTER.

WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET INFORMATION, UH, TO NO AVAIL.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH, UH, CONGRESS, UH, PEOPLE, MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, AND, UM, HAVE RECEIVED NO RESPONSE FROM, UH, THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY, NO RESPONSE FROM THE BUREAU OF PRISONS.

YOU CAN FIND THE LETTERS THAT WE SENT ON THE DUBLIN BUZZ WEBPAGE, UH, WHICH IS UNDER THE CITY MANAGER'S DEPARTMENT, UH, ON OUR WEBSITE.

UH, SO THOSE ARE THE ACTIONS WE'VE TAKEN.

THANK YOU.

AND ONE MORE THING IS CLEAR.

AS A CITY OF DUBLIN, DO WE HAVE AUTHORITY OVER FEDERAL, UH, LAND? SO THE LAND, UH, WHERE FCI DUBLIN SITS IS FEDERALLY OWNED.

UH, NO PIECES OF IT ARE OWNED BY THE CITY OR ANY PRIVATE, UH, ENTITY.

AND SO IT'S NOT SUBJECT TO OUR LOCAL ORDINANCES OR ZONING ORDINANCE WOULDN'T BE SUBJECT TO OUR PERMITTING PROCESSES IF SOMETHING GOES ON THERE, UM, YOU KNOW, FEDERAL LAW SUPERSEDES LOCAL LAW AND THAT WOULD BE TRUE IN THIS CASE.

YEAH.

UM, JUST, UH, IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE, WE CLOSELY WORKING WITH INDIVISIBLE, UM, INDIVISIBLE TRIBE TRI LEADERS, AND WE HAVE MET MANY OF YOU SEVERAL TIMES.

WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU, YOU KNOW, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS HAVE BEEN GOING ON.

OKAY.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

WE'LL TAKE A RECESS FOR FIVE MINUTES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

LET'S CONTINUE OUR MEETING.

WE

[5. CONSENT CALENDAR ]

HAVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE, CONSENT CALENDAR.

SO CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS ARE TYPICALLY NON-CONTROVERSIAL IN NATURE AND ARE CONSIDERED FOR APPROVAL BY THE CITY COUNCIL WITH ONE SINGLE ACTION.

SO I WANT TO ASK COUNCIL MEMBERS, ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS, UM, OR ANY QUESTIONS FOR THIS? UM, AGENDA ITEMS 5.3.

VERY FAST ONE.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SO VERY FAST.

ONE YOU WANT TO, UH, ASK NOW? WELL, ARE WE, WE CAN ASK NOW AND THEN WE CAN PASS IT ALL TOGETHER.

I CAN'T ON YOUR SIDE BECAUSE IT'S VERY FAST.

THAT IMPORTANT EVENING, IVAN.

UH, VERY FAST CLARIFYING

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QUESTION.

UH, THE AMOUNT OF $10,000 THAT, THAT WAS FOR FUNDING, UH, WAS THAT INFLATION ADJUSTED FROM PRIOR YEARS AND HOW DID YOU COME TO THAT EXACT NUMBER? YES.

SO THAT ACTUALLY GOT, UM, IMPLEMENTED LAST YEAR AROUND THIS TIME ACTUALLY.

UM, AND IT WAS SUGGESTED BY THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AS, UM, TO INCREASE THE FUNDS FROM 2,500 TO $10,000.

OKAY.

WE DID DO SOME, UM, OUR AS STAFF.

UM, WE DID DO, UH, PROVIDE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS AS WELL.

SO IT RANGED FROM VARIOUS AMOUNTS, BUT THAT WAS WHAT WAS IDENTIFIED THE MOST FEASIBLE AT THIS MOMENT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

NO, THANK YOU.

SINCE WE HAVE, UH, TWO OH YES.

YOUTH LEADERS HERE, I WOULD LIKE YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF YEAH.

AND FILL A FEW WORDS.

UH, HELLO.

HI.

UM, MY NAME IS NEIL.

I'M A JUNIOR AT EMERALD HIGH SCHOOL AND I'M THE CHAIR OF THE YSC.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE.

I'M CAITLYN.

I AM THE VICE CHAIR OF THE YAC AND I AM A SOPHOMORE AT DUBLIN HIGH SCHOOL.

SO JUST SHARE, UH, ONE LITTLE THING FROM EACH OF YOU ABOUT THIS, UH, SELECTION PROCESS.

JUST HOW YOU FEEL.

ANY COMMENT YOU WANT TO MAKE.

YEAH.

UM, I ACTUALLY THOUGHT THE SELECTION PROCESS IS VERY INTERESTING THIS YEAR.

UM, SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE WE HAD OVER $10,000, THAT'S A VERY BIG RAISE FROM 2,500.

SO WE WERE ABLE TO SUPPORT SO MANY MORE ORGANIZATIONS AND IT WAS NICE TO SEE A DIVERSITY FROM LIKE HEALTH AND AWARENESS ORGANIZATIONS TO CULTURAL AWARENESS.

SO THIS YEAR WITH THE INCREASED FUNDS, IT WAS VERY COOL TO SEE SO MANY MORE ORGANIZATIONS BEING ABLE TO APPLY AND RECEIVE THE FUNDING THEY NEED TO HOST A VARIOUS SET OF ACTIVITIES.

YEAH.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.

GO AHEAD.

I VERY MUCH AGREE WITH HIM.

I THINK WE'RE, UH, ABLE TO MAKE MUCH LARGER OF AN IMPACT THIS YEAR, WHICH IS VERY EXCITING.

I THINK ONE THING THAT WAS REALLY INTERESTING IS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO, UH, WE DIVIDED UP THE FUNDS TO GIVE EVERY SINGLE CLUB WHO ASKED FOR MONEY.

AND I THINK ONE THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO FOCUS ON NEXT YEAR IS PROMOTING MORE TO GET MORE CLUBS IN, BECAUSE THESE CLUBS ARE ABLE TO DO SO MUCH.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK THAT IF WE SPREAD THIS MONEY OUT EVEN FURTHER, THAT EVEN MORE CLUBS WOULD BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE WHAT THEY'D LIKE TO.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE IS AWARE OF THIS OPPORTUNITY 'CAUSE IT'S REALLY A GREAT ONE THAT EVERYONE SHOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR WORK.

SORRY, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'M GONNA ASK A FOLLOW ON QUESTION.

HOW, HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU ENVISION, UH, GETTING THAT BROAD OUTREACH, YOU KNOW, THE MESSAGING OUT TO OTHER ORGANIZATIONS? UM, WE HAVE A COUPLE DIFFERENT PLANS OF ACTION IN MIND, BUT I THINK, UH, MORE SOCIAL MEDIA PROMOTION AS WELL AS IN-CLASS PROMOTION IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE TO SEE.

I THINK THAT EV NOWADAYS, EVERY KID IS ON INSTAGRAM AND ESPECIALLY ALL CLUB ANNOUNCEMENTS ARE MADE ON THERE.

SO I THINK THAT'D BE VERY HELPFUL FOR CLUBS.

AND I ALSO THINK JUST A QUICK LITTLE THING ON THE ANNOUNCEMENTS, UM, DEFINITELY WILL PERK SOME EARS UP.

AND I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH SOME OF MY FRIENDS AND I TOLD THEM ABOUT WHAT I WAS DOING AND THEY DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT.

AND SO I THINK JUST GETTING THAT WORD OF MOUTH AND KIND OF JUST, AGAIN, HEARING IT EVEN ONCE ON THE ANNOUNCEMENTS, SPARKS CURIOSITY TO LEARN MORE AND TO REALLY GO FOR IT.

I THINK IT DEFINITELY HELPS TO STUDENTS, UM, TO REALLY MAKE MOVES FOR THEMSELVES.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ONE MORE.

WE, WE GOTTA ONE MORE.

I THINK I STARTED SOMETHING HERE.

'CAUSE A LOT OF QUESTIONS.

UH, IVAN, WHERE ARE YOU? UH, CAN WE CHANGE THE NAME? ? THIS MINI GRANT THING IS SORT OF MINI, UH, I, I'M LISTENING TO CAITLYN.

I'M LIKE, MAN, WE CAN GO BIG WITH THIS.

SO CAN WE CONSIDER CHANGING THE NAME NEXT YEAR? UH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP AT ONE POINT, UM, IN TIME.

UM, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT KEEP RECURRING IS THAT THE NAME DOES SUGGEST THAT IT IS A SMALL PROGRAM, UM, BECAUSE OF IT IS, UM, IT DID START FROM 2,500 TO 10,000.

UM, THERE ARE VARIABLE, MULTIPLE VARIABLE FACTORS THAT GO INTO IT.

ONE THING IS WE DIDN'T WANNA DON KIDS FROM BASICALLY APPLYING FOR SOMETHING THAT SOUNDS MORE FORMAL.

UM, ANOTHER POINT IS THAT REALLY IN REALITY, THEY ONLY REALLY HAVE FOUR TO FIVE MONTHS TO FULFILL THE 25, WELL, PREVIOUSLY 2,500 TO $10,000 THAT'S ALLOCATED TO THE VARIOUS FUNDS.

AND SO WHEN THEY COME BACK, REALLY WE WANT, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO REALLY FULFILL THAT AND THEN COME BACK IN APRIL TO REPORT SOMETHING COMPLETE.

AND SO MANY FUND MINI GRANT FUND DOES SUGGEST THAT IT IS SMALLER IN SCALE.

UM, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NOT DAUNTING IN TASK, BUT SOMETHING THAT IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO US FOR CONSIDERATION, THEN WE, WE CAN THEN PLEASE, UH, CONSIDER THAT I HAVE A FEW IDEAS.

OKAY, GREAT.

MAYBE THINK ABOUT THAT .

YES.

OKAY.

THANK, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

NO MORE QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

WE'RE GOOD.

WE'RE GOOD.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

SO, SO THANK YOU SO

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MUCH.

YEAH.

SO IF I'M LOOKING FOR MOTION FOR HAVING MY MOTION TO APPROVE OUR CONSENT CALENDAR AND REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THE, UH, OUTCOMES OF THESE MINI GRANT PROJECTS IN PARTICULAR.

SO, UH, LOOKING FORWARD TO THOSE PROGRESS REPORTS.

I'LL SECOND IT.

UM, SO ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

OKAY.

SO THIS, UH, AGENDA ITEM FIVE PASSED OUT UNANIMOUSLY.

SO, SO WE'LL GO TO NUMBER SIX, PUBLIC HEARING NONE, SEVEN

[7.1 Approval of Workers’ Compensation Program Structure and Recommendation to Transition to a Self-Funded Workers’ Compensation Plan]

AND FINISH THE BUSINESS 7.1.

MAYOR AND COUNSEL, SARAH MANASIS HERE, HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR.

UM, I COME TO YOU AGAIN.

I'VE SEEN YOU GUYS A LOT IN THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS.

IT'S NICE TO BE UP HERE.

UM, I'M COMING BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO TRANSITION OUR, UM, TO A SELF-FUNDED WORKERS' COMPENSATION PLAN.

SO WHAT I WANNA DO TONIGHT IS PROVIDE YOU JUST AN OVERVIEW OF OUR PROGRAM OPTIONS, SHARE SOME ANALYSIS OF, UM, OUR CLAIM HISTORY THAT I'VE DONE, REVIEW THE VIABILITY AND COST OF AVAILABLE PROGRAMS, PRESENT A RECOMMENDATION, WHICH I KINDA LED WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA BE, AND THEN JUST, UH, REQUEST YOUR AUTHORITY TO IMPLEMENT THE NEW PROGRAM BEGINNING ONE ONE OF 26.

SO IF YOU MIGHT REMEMBER A FEW WEEKS AGO, WE CAME TO TO, UM, FOR, TO SIGN THE DISSOLUTION OF THE CITY'S GROUP, WHICH IS THE JOINT POWERS AUTHORITY THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY, UM, PARTICIPATING IN FOR OUR WORKERS' COMP INSURANCE.

AND WITH THAT, EACH MEMBER NOW NEEDS TO GO AND FIND DIFFERENT WORKERS' COMP COVERAGE.

SO MY GOAL IN, UM, SEARCHING FOR NEW COVERAGE IS TO ENSURE FINANCIAL STABILITY, STRONG CLAIM OVERSIGHT, AND THE CONTINUITY OF SERVICE.

SO I WANNA START BY JUST GIVING YOU A LITTLE HISTORY OF WHAT OUR CLAIMS HAVE BEEN OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS.

SO WE'VE BEEN WITH CITIES GROUP, UM, SINCE 2005 IN THAT TIME.

THIS IS ACTUAL, ACTUAL COSTS EVERY YEAR.

YOU'LL SEE IN 2005 WAS KIND OF OUR HIGHEST YEAR, LITTLE OVER 85,000.

UM, WE HAD A SPIKE IN 21 OF A LITTLE OVER 40.

YOU'LL SEE THAT LITTLE, LITTLE BEAR LITTLE LINE OF 2020.

THAT'S THE COVID YEAR.

SO THERE'S ONLY $374 THERE.

UM, BUT ON AVERAGE WE, UM, AVERAGE ABOUT $14,000 A YEAR.

16 OF THOSE, UM, 20 YEARS WE'RE ACTUALLY UNDER 14,000, SEVERAL YEARS UNDER A THOUSAND.

UM, AND SO YOU'LL SEE WE HAVE ACTUALLY REALLY, REALLY, REALLY LOW EXPOSURE, UM, FOR WORKERS' COMP, WHICH IS GREAT.

PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE, UM, WE DON'T HAVE POLICE, WE DON'T HAVE FIRE, AND WE ALSO OUTSOURCE MAINTENANCE.

SO THOSE ARE OUR MORE DANGEROUS JOBS.

UH, A LOT OF OUR JOBS ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, IN OFFICE PROFESSIONAL.

SO A LOT OF THE THINGS YOU DO SEE WILL COME MORE FROM THE PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT IN THE FIELD IN THE PARKS AND RECS, KIND OF SPRAINS AND TWISTS, UM, PART OF OUR CAMP PROGRAMS, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.

AND WE DO AVERAGE ABOUT THREE TO SEVEN CLAIMS PER YEAR, AS I MENTIONED.

UH, WE'RE CURRENTLY PART OF, UM, THE CITY'S GROUPS JOINT POWER AUTHORITY.

UM, IN THAT PLAN WE HAVE A $1 MILLION SIR AND UM, SIR STANDS FOR SELF-INSURED RETENTION.

SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS THE CITY OF DUBLIN, WE PAY FOR THE FIRST MILLION DOLLARS OF ANY CLAIM.

AS YOU CAN SEE, IT HASN'T BEEN NEARLY THAT AMOUNT, BUT THAT'S WHAT OUR CURRENT STRUCTURE SET UP AS.

AND THEN WE BOUGHT PURCHASE EXCESS INSURANCE AS PART OF THE, THE JPA AND IT GOES UP TO $10 MILLION PER CLAIM.

AS YOU, AS YOU SAW BEFORE, THE CITY'S NEVER APPROACHED OUR MILLION.

AND SO WE HAVE HISTORICALLY LOW, UM, LOW LOSSES AND SO WE'RE KIND OF WELL SUITED TO BE IN A PLAN LIKE THIS, UM, AS LONG AS IT'S COST EFFECTIVE, OF COURSE.

SO AS I LOOKED AT NEW OPTIONS, WE REALLY HAVE KIND OF THREE AREAS WE CAN LOOK INTO.

WE CAN GO INTO A FULLY SHARED PLAN.

SO SOMETHING THAT YOU KINDA PURCHASE IN THE OPEN MARKET, WE CAN GO BACK TO A WORKERS' COMP JPA OR A NEW OPTION IS A SELF-FUNDED TPA PLUS EXCESS INSURANCE.

SO I'M GONNA WALK YOU THROUGH KIND OF EACH ONE OF THOSE.

SO THE STATE COMPENSATION FUND, IT IS A STATE RUN AND IT IS A FULLY INSURED PROGRAM.

SO SIMILAR WE WOULD THINK IN ANY SORT OF INSURANCE WE, WE PURCHASE, RIGHT? WE PAY A PREMIUM AND WE TURN EVERYTHING OVER TO THEM.

UM, SO IT'S KIND OF A SET IT AND FORGET IT.

SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, AN AGENCY IS LOOKING FOR, THEY KIND OF WANNA BE HANDS OFF, THAT IS AN OPTION FOR THEM.

UM, BUT WITH THAT, YOU'RE GONNA LOSE THE ABILITY TO REALLY WORK THOSE CLAIMS AND NOT JUST FROM A CITY'S PERSPECTIVE, BUT ALSO TO BE A LIAISON FOR THE EMPLOYEE.

THE WORKERS' COMP PROCESS, UM, CAN BE FRUSTRATING AT TIMES.

THERE ARE A LOT OF LAWS THAT SURROUND IT AND A LOT OF REGULATIONS.

UM, SO SOMETIMES THERE'S, UM, OBSTACLES IN PLACE THAT AGENCIES CAN REMOVE.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S THINGS THAT GO THROUGH UTILIZATION REVIEW WHERE, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY WILL SAY, WELL, YOUR DOCTOR WANTS YOU TO HAVE THIS, BUT ACTUALLY YOU SHOULDN'T.

AND AS IF WE UNDER THIS PLAN, WE, THERE'S NOTHING WE COULD SAY, BUT IN SOME OF THE OTHER OPTIONS WE CAN BE LIKE, ACTUALLY

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WE AGREE, LET THEM GET THAT MRI OR, OR WHATEVER IT IS.

SO THIS REMOVES THAT ABILITY TO HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY TO KIND OF HELP MANAGE THE CLAIM, NOT JUST FOR THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE, BUT AGAIN TO HELP OUR EMPLOYEES SHEPHERD THEMSELVES THROUGH THIS AS WELL.

THE PREMIUM COST FOR THAT WOULD BE $206,000 ANNUALLY, UM, WHICH IS SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN OUR COSTS THAT WE'VE HAD NOW.

UM, BUT IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE THAN WE'RE CURRENTLY PAYING.

UM, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S GONNA BE THE ONE COST AND THAT'S IT.

UM, BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY REFLECT OUR RISK POOL AS YOU'VE SEEN FROM OUR EXPENSES.

THE SECOND OPTION IS, UM, TO GO INTO ANOTHER JPA, WHICH I ACTUALLY, I'LL BE QUITE HONEST, I THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS GONNA BE WHAT I'D BE PROPOSING HERE TODAY WHEN I KIND OF SET OUT TO DO THIS EXERCISE.

UM, WHAT A JPA IS IS IT IS, UM, A SHARED RESOURCE WHERE MULTIPLE AGENCIES COME TOGETHER AND YOU SHARE IN, UM, IN ALL OF THE LIABILITY AND YOU SHARE IN, UM, THE COST OF THE CLAIMS, THE ADMIN, AND THE LONG-TERM RESERVES.

NOW, UH, BECAUSE I'D ACTUALLY THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA GO THIS ROUTE, I ACTUALLY JOINED A STEERING COMMITTEE.

SO PLAN JPA WHERE WE GET OUR PROPERTY AND OUR LIABILITY INSURANCE THROUGH OR ACT ACTUALLY ADDED A WORKERS' COMP PORTION.

UM, SO I JOINED THE STEERING COMMITTEE TO HELP GET THAT PROGRAM OFF THE GROUND.

UM, SO THAT WAS A REALLY, UM, GOOD THING TO KIND OF BE A PART OF AND I LEARNED A LOT FROM THAT.

UM, AND I WAS SURPRISED ON HOW EXPENSIVE IT WAS GONNA BE.

AGAIN, SEEING OUR CLAIMS HISTORY FOR US TO JOIN ONE OF THOSE POOLS LOOKED AT THREE DIFFERENT POOLS.

UM, AND I LOOKED AT VARIOUS DIFFERENT, SIR.

SO I LOOKED AT WHAT'S CALLED FIRST DOLLAR WHERE, SO SIMILAR TO THE, UM, THE STATE FUND WHERE WE JUST PAY A PREMIUM AND THERE'S NO OTHER OUT-OF-POCKET EXPENSES FOR US THAT RANGE BETWEEN 450,500 $35,000 A YEAR.

AND THEN WE'D HAVE NO OTHER COST, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD BE PAYING FOR SURE, NO MATTER IF WE HAD ZERO CLAIMS OR 10 CLAIMS. LOOK, I LOOKED AT OTHER ONES, UH, LOW ON THE LOWER END.

SO A FIVE, YOU ONLY PAY OUT OF POCKET, FIVE TO 10,000 PER CLAIM.

THAT RAN PRETTY HIGH AS WELL, BETWEEN 409,400 96,000 ANNUALLY.

AND THEN I ALSO LOOKED AT KIND OF A HIGHER SIRA HUNDRED THOUSAND.

THAT WAS THE QUOTES I GOT WERE FOR 250 OR 375, 357 ANNUALLY.

AND THEN I ALSO WENT AS HIGH AS 150 AND IT WAS STILL $315,000 ANNUALLY.

AND AGAIN, SO IN THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE YOUR SIR IS HIGHER, YOU'RE GONNA, LET'S GO THE 2 51 50 EXAMPLE, WE'RE GONNA PAY $315,000 TO BE PART OF THE POOL, BUT THEN WE'RE ALSO GONNA PAY THE CLAIM EXPENSES BECAUSE YOU'VE NEVER SEEN, WE'VE NEVER GONE OVER ONE 50.

ALL THOSE EXPENSES YOU'VE SEEN ON THAT ORANGE CHART, WE'D BE PAYING THAT IN ADDITION TO THIS AMOUNT HERE.

UM, AND THEN THE REASON I COULDN'T GET A LOT MORE QUOTES, A THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF THE SHOWING THAT THEY'RE WITHIN A STONE'S THROW OF EACH OTHER, BUT WE WERE ACTUALLY ENTERING THE MARKET MID FISCAL YEAR, WHICH A LOT OF RULES PROHIBIT THAT.

SO, BUT WE DID FIND THREE PLACES THAT WE WERE WILLING TO QUOTE US ON THAT.

UM, THIS IS A GOOD FIT THOUGH FOR A LOT OF AGENCIES, ESPECIALLY ONES WITH POLICE AND FIRE.

UM, CLAIMS CAN GET QUITE QUITE EXPENSIVE.

SO POOLING YOUR RESOURCES WHERE YOU HAVE LIKE REALLY HIGH YEARS AND LOW YEARS CAN, CAN REALLY BE HELPFUL.

UM, BUT FOR US, I ACTUALLY THINK A SELF OFFENDED PROGRAM IS REALLY, REALLY THE THE BEST OPTION.

UH, I FOUND THIS INTERESTING, I DIDN'T KNOW THIS UNTIL I STARTED DOING SOME RESEARCH.

THERE ARE ACTUALLY 443 PUBLIC ENTITIES IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

THAT SELF-FUND, JUST AS I'M PROPOSING THAT WE DO TODAY.

THAT'S CITIES, COUNTIES, SCHOOL DISTRICTS, UM, TRANSIT AUTHORITIES, KINDA ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF PUBLIC ENTITIES.

SO THE CITY PAYS ONLY OUR ACTUAL CLAIM COSTS.

SO THAT SAME ORANGE, UM, GRAPH THAT YOU SAW, WE WILL PURCHASE EXCESS INSURANCE.

SO WHAT WE'D HAVE IS A SELF-INSURED RISK RETENTION UP TO 750,000, WE WOULD PURCHASE FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR, UM, ADDITIONAL COVERAGE.

AND WHAT THAT WOULD COVER IS FROM SEVEN 50.

AND THERE'S NO LIMIT.

SO IF WE HAD SOMETHING CATASTROPHIC HAPPEN AND IT WAS 20, 30, $40 MILLION, THAT EXCESS COVERAGE WOULD COVER THAT COST FOR THE CITY.

OKAY? SO, UM, THIS PROGRAM DOES MORE MIRROR OUR LONGSTANDING STRUCTURE WITH THE EXCEPTION THAT IT DOES GIVE US ON THOSE UPPER ECHELONS OF COVERAGE THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE BEFORE.

PRIOR IT WAS ONLY ANYTHING ABOVE 10 MILLION, IT WOULD'VE COME BACK TO THE CITY TO HAVE TO PAY.

UM, AND THEN THE NICE THING ABOUT THIS IS ANY UNSPENT FUNDS REMAIN UNDER CITY CONTROL.

SO, YOU KNOW, IF WE SET ASIDE THIS MONEY AND THEN WE HAVE A YEAR AND THAT WE ONLY SPEND $5,000, THEN THAT REST OF THE MONEY JUST STAYS WITH US AND IT STAYS IN OUR ACCOUNT.

UM, THE ONLY OTHER DIFFERENCE IS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO, THERE'S SOME SMALL ADMINISTRATIVE THINGS WE WOULD HAVE TO DO DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER PLANS, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT REALLY THAT BIG OF A, A LIFT OIP REPORTING,

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WHICH OIP IS THE OFFICE OF SELF-INSURED PLANS.

YOU HAVE TO GET A CERTIFICATE, UM, TO BE SELF-INSURED.

AND THAT'S THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF ADMINISTRATIVE RELATIONS AND THEY ARE THE OVERSIGHT AND THE REGULATIONS OF WORKERS' COMP.

SO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING CORRECTLY AND THEN SETTING UP OF A TRUST ACCOUNT, WHICH I'LL TALK ABOUT, UH, ON THE NEXT SLIDE.

SO THIS PLAN, I WANTED TO DIVE A LITTLE DEEPER INTO THE COST AS IT'S WHAT I'M RECOMMENDING.

SO WE WOULD HAVE TO HIRE A THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR.

I'VE, UM, RECEIVED A QUOTE FROM LWP AND THEY ARE GONNA, ARE QUOTING US $4,000 IN ANNUAL FEE.

AND THEN, UM, ADDITIONAL FEES ARE BASED ON OUR ACTUAL CLAIMS, WHICH IS AMAZING FOR THE CITY OF DUBLIN BECAUSE OUR CLAIMS ARE SO LOW.

IF WE HAVE A MEDICAL ONLY CLAIM, YOU PAY ONE FEE, THAT'S IT.

AND IF YOU HAVE A CLAIM THAT GOES ON, YOU PAY, UH, PER MONTH UNTIL IT'S RESOLVED.

VERSUS IF YOU'RE PART OF A JPA, YOU'RE PAYING THE SAME AMOUNT AND YOU COULD HAVE JUST ALL THESE MEDICAL ONLYS, BUT YOU'RE PAYING A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR VERY SMALL CLAIM ADMINISTRATION.

SO I REALLY LIKED THAT MODEL.

I DID SIT ON, UM, THE STEERING COMMITTEE I MENTIONED BEFORE WHEN PLAN WAS ADDING THE WORKERS' COMP AND I SAT THROUGH ALL THE TPA, UM, PROPOSALS WHEN THEY WENT THROUGH RFP FOR THEIR THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR.

AND, UM, LWP WAS ACTUALLY THE COMPANY THAT WON THAT CONTRACT.

IN ADDITION, FOSTER CITY, WHO IS KIND OF WHO GOT THIS ALL STARTED, UM, THERE, AND THEY'RE MOVING TO SELF-FUNDED AS WELL.

THEY'RE ACTUALLY MOVING TO LWP AS WELL.

AND I BRING THAT UP BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE REALLY BENEFICIAL FOR US IN THE SENSE THAT WHEN WE, IF YOU GUYS APPROVE THIS, OF COURSE WHEN WE GO TO MIGRATE OUR DATA, THEY'RE DOING EVERYONE'S FROM CITIES GROUP, RIGHT? SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE DEALING, WE'RE DEALING WITH THE SAME PEOPLE THAT WHATEVER PROBLEMS THEY'RE GONNA HAVE, WE'RE NOT THE FIRST CITIES GROUP'S, BEEN ALREADY KIND OF IRONING OUT SOME WRINKLES WITH LWP.

SO IT'S GONNA BE, I THINK, A MUCH SMOOTHER TRANSITION BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED WITH, WITH FOSTER CITY AND WLL AND THE OTHER FOUR AGENCIES I TOUCHED ON THE EXCESS INSURANCE AND THEN THE TRUST ACCOUNT.

NOW THE TRUST ACCOUNT, UM, I KNOW WE ALL THINK ABOUT TRUST, YOU KNOW, IN OUR OWN PERSONAL LIVES AND PROPERTIES AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

WHAT THIS REALLY IS, IS A SEPARATE BANK ACCOUNT.

SO WHAT WE WANNA DO IS WE WANNA PUT ASIDE, I'M RECOMMENDING AT THIS POINT, UH, $50,000 THAT GOES INTO, UH, THIS SEPARATE BANK ACCOUNT WHERE THAT'S WHERE WE PAY ALL OF OUR WORKERS' COMP EXPENSES OUT OF.

OKAY? AND IT'S KIND OF ACTUALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING A LITTLE BIT NOW WITH CITI'S GROUP, WE HAVE THIS LITTLE BUCKET.

IT'S $187,000 AND EVERY BILL WE HAVE JUST DRAWS THAT DOWN.

WE HAVEN'T HAD TO REPLENISH IT IN A LONG TIME.

I THINK JULIE CARTER, LAST TIME SHE REPLENISHED IT, IT WAS IN 2018, SHE GAVE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, WENT INTO THAT.

SO YOU'VE SEEN, WE HAVEN'T REALLY CONTRIBUTED MORE 'CAUSE OUR EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN SO LOW.

UM, AND THEN ANY FURTHER FUNDING WILL BE BASED ON CLAIMS EXPERIENCE.

AND MY HOPE IS THAT WHEN THE DIS, WHEN THE JPA FULLY DISSOLVES AND I I TALKED TO YOU ABOUT, WE HAVE THAT 187 WHATEVER'S LEFT OVER ON THAT IS GONNA BE MY RECOMMENDATION, UM, THAT THAT MONEY THEN GOES INTO THIS FUND AND THEN WILL, SHOULD BE FUNDED PRETTY WELL FOR A WHILE.

IF YOU LOOK AT OUR, UM, OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS, I THINK WE'VE ONLY PAID $250,000 TOTAL IN WORKERS' COMP EXPENSES.

AGAIN, WE'RE IN SUCH A REALLY, REALLY GOOD SPOT COMPARED TO SOME OF THESE OTHER CITIES THAT ARE TRYING TO MAKE THIS TRANSITION.

UM, SO NEXT STEPS IF APPROVED, UH, WE WOULD EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE TPA, BIND OUR INSURANCE, CREATE THE TRUST, COMPLETE ALL THE FILINGS WITH OCIP, UM, COORDINATE THE RECORDS, UM, TRANSFERS, WHICH I DISCUSSED, AND WE'LL UPDATE OUR INTERNAL PROCEDURES.

AND THEN MIDYEAR, WE WILL COME TO ASK FOR THE FUNDS TO FUND, UM, THIS NEW ENDEAVOR THAT WE'RE ON.

AND THEN, SO MY REQUEST TONIGHT, UM, AFTER QUESTIONS, OF COURSE, IS TO PRO APPROVE THIS FOR US, AUTHORIZE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE TRUST ACCOUNT AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY AGREEMENTS TO ADMINISTER, UM, THE EXCESS INSURANCE.

SO WITH THAT, I THANK YOU AND I TURN IT OVER.

ANY QUESTIONS I CAN ANSWER? THANK YOU, SARAH.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

QUESTIONS GO AHEAD, JOHN.

OKAY.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

GOOD EVENING, SARAH.

GOOD EVENING.

UH, SEVERAL JUST STRATEGIC THINKING QUESTIONS IF I MAY.

UM, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE, UM, LIABILITY TO US TO SWITCH? I'M SORRY, THE WHAT? THE LIABILITY FOR US AT THIS MOMENT TO MOVE OVER TO I DON'T EITHER OPTION.

I DON'T SEE ANY, I MEAN, I, I THINK WE'RE REALLY DOING EXACTLY WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING.

JUST, IT'S GOT A DIFFERENT NAME TO IT AND IT'S A DIFFERENT FACE.

UM, BUT I, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE THIS CLAIMS CONTINUE AS THEY ARE.

I THINK WE'RE IN A GREAT, NOTHING SHOULD GO UP.

NOTHING SHOULD CHANGE.

WE SHOULD BE IN A REALLY GOOD POSITION.

SO I DON'T SEE ANY CHANGE IN LIABILITY.

OKAY.

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THE, OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND THE, UH, SO WE, WE CURRENTLY HAVE CLAIMS AT THIS MOMENT, RIGHT? CORRECT.

I THINK ONE OH, JUST ONE? NO.

OH YEAH.

.

UH, I THOUGHT WE HAD MORE, UH, BUT THAT'S OKAY.

JUST ONE.

SO, UH, WALK ME THROUGH HOW WE WILL NOTIFY OR THE CLAIMANT MM-HMM .

OF THE SWITCH OR, OR, OR DO THEY NOT NEED TO BE NOTIFIED 'CAUSE THEY'RE GONNA STAY WITH THE OLD JPA AND NO, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

SO PART OF THE DISSOLUTION IS THAT EVERYTHING THAT'S, UH, HAS TO GO WITH YOU TO YOUR NEW PROVIDER, WHATEVER THAT PROVIDER LOOKS LIKE.

SO ALL OF OUR PRIOR CLAIMS, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE CLOSED, BUT ALL THE RECORDS, EVERYTHING THAT'S ABOUT THOSE CLAIMS, THEY'RE GONNA GO TO THE NEW TPA.

SO THEY WILL BE OUR NEW CUSTODIAN OF RECORDS FOR THAT.

UM, BUT YES, FOR ANY CLAIMS THAT WOULD BE OPEN, THERE'S DEFINITELY GONNA BE A COMMUNICATION PROCESS.

I'LL PROBABLY JUST CALL THEM, THEY'RE IN THIS, IN THESE BUILDINGS, RIGHT? I CAN JUST GIVE THEM A CALL AND LET THEM KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING AND JUST BE THERE AS A RESOURCE FOR THEM, UM, AND INTRODUCE THEM TO THE NEWS CLAIMS ADJUSTER.

AND THAT'S ASSUMING THAT THAT CLAIM DOESN'T GET CLOSED BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.

'CAUSE I, I STILL GOT LIKE FIVE OR SIX WEEKS, SO, AND IT, BECAUSE IT, IT, THEY'RE MEDICAL ONLY, SO THEY'RE SIMPLE TO CLO CLOSE.

OKAY.

UM, THAT'S FINE.

UH, JUST FOR MY DEFINITION, FOR DEFINITION, UH, WHAT WOULD YOU GIVE ME AS AN EXAMPLE OF A CATASTROPHIC EVENT WHERE WE WOULD EXCEED THE 1 MILLION? IS IT LIKE A SERVER FALLING ON THE ENTIRE IT DEPARTMENT AT THE SAME TIME? PROBABLY AN, UH, ICU.

SO NO, I'M NOT, I'M NOT SAYING THAT COULD BE BOLTED TO THE WALL.

UM, BUT NO, UM, EARTHQUAKE, AN EARTHQUAKE COULD BE A SITUATION.

UM, A A LOT OF THE REALLY CATASTROPHIC STUFF COMES WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH PUBLIC SERVANT, UH, PUBLIC SERVANT.

SO POLICE, FIRE, UM, THAT'S WHEN IT GETS REALLY BAD.

BUT YEAH, IF YOU HA IF WE HAD AN EARTHQUAKE, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OTHER BAD THINGS WHERE PEOPLE COME INTO THE BUILDINGS AND THEY SHOULDN'T, I MEAN, I DON'T WANNA PUT IT OUT THERE, BUT THERE'S SOME BAD SITUATIONS THAT HAVE HAPPENED AT DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'D HAVE VERY CATASTROPHIC, BUT IT'S PROBABLY REALLY NEVER GONNA HAPPEN HERE.

RARE, RIGHT? BUT JUST WITH ANY OF OUR OWN INSURANCES, RIGHT? WE ARE PREPARED THAT IF SOMETHING HAPPENS OUR OWN HOME, OUR OWN CARS, RIGHT? WE HAVE THIS COVERAGE THAT, UM, HOPEFULLY WE NEVER NEED TO USE IT.

BUT IN THE TIMES THAT WE DO, WE'RE SO THANKFUL WE HAVE IT.

EXCELLENT.

UH, VERY GOOD.

UH, NO FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM ME.

UM, UM, QUESTION.

OKAY, , THEY'RE BASIC QUESTIONS, BUT JUST HELP ME UNDERSTAND SOMETHING.

SO I WAS REALLY HAPPY TO HEAR THAT THE, UH, AMOUNT OF EXCESS INSURANCE HAD NO UPPER LIMIT.

YEAH.

UH, YOU KNOW, I'M USED TO DEALING WITH DEDUCTIBLES AND THE WHOLE BIT, RIGHT? BUT WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH THIS IS WHEN YOU HAVE A RETENTION STRUCTURE, IS THAT TYPICAL TO HAVE NO UPPER LIMIT? I MEAN, WHAT HAPPENS IF, YOU KNOW, HE JUST BROUGHT IT UP AND, AND SO IF SOMETHING HAPPENS, WHATEVER IT IS, AND YOU EXCEED IT AND, AND THAT INSURER LOOKS AT YOU AND GO, WELL, YOU KNOW, UH, IT'S UP TO THE MOON, IT'S ALL GOOD.

UH, SERIOUSLY THOUGH, UH, I, I'M, THE QUESTION IS, THE FIRST QUESTION IS, IS THAT TYPICAL FOR RETENTION? UH, UH, NOT TO HAVE AN UPPER LIMIT? THIS IS NEW TO ME.

SO WHAT IT IS DOING, IT IS MIMICKING THE LAW.

SO THE LAW HAS NO LIMIT TO WHAT PEOPLE CAN RECEIVE IN A WORKERS' COMP SITUATION.

THERE ARE LIMITS IF YOU'RE GETTING TEMPORARY DISABILITY BENEFITS OR, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT MEDICAL THINGS.

BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THESE DAMAGES, HONESTLY, WHEN THERE'S LOSS OF LIFE, UM, THOSE GO TO A JUDGE AND A JUDGE IS THE ONE THAT DETERMINES WHAT THAT AMOUNT IS.

AND THE LAW SAYS THERE IS NO LIMIT.

AND SO YOU'RE SEEING THESE EXCESS CARRIERS KIND OF MIRROR THAT.

UM, SO THAT'S WHAT THE QUOTE WE GOT FOR IT.

I ACTUALLY HAD TO LEARN.

I DIDN'T, I THOUGHT STATUTORY LIMIT MEANT THAT THERE WAS LIKE A LIMIT, BUT IT REALLY MEANS NO LIMIT.

AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT LIABILITY.

WE'RE CASUALTY INSURANCE HERE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WORKERS' COMP.

SO YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE THESE, UH, VERY RARE THAT I COULD EVEN CONTEMPLATE A CATASTROPHIC EVENT HAPPENING.

BUT ON THAT TOPIC, UH, DID YOU DO ANY ANALYSIS, UH, COST ANALYSIS, BENEFIT ANALYSIS ON HOW TO SET THAT RETENTION? UH, YOU BROUGHT IT DOWN, YOU'RE HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND ALL THE GOOD, ALL THE GOOD CALCULATIONS HERE, BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS, UH, YOU KNOW, A LOWER RETENTION, WHAT WOULD THAT HAVE DONE? A HIGHER RETENTION AT A BACKUP TO A MILLION BUCKS, WHAT WOULD THAT HAVE DONE IN TERMS OF YOUR, UH, EXCESS REQUIREMENTS? A LITTLE BIT.

SO I'M TRYING TO GET EVEN LOWER FOR SAME AMOUNT, BUT THAT HASN'T HAPPENED YET.

UM, BUT THIS IS KIND OF THE LOWEST THAT'S OUT IN THE MARKET RIGHT NOW.

SO WHAT PEOPLE DO TO COVER THIS GAP THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS ACTUALLY JOIN THESE JOINT POWER AUTHORITIES.

SO WHAT HAPPENS IS, IS YOU CAN GO INTO THESE GPA'S, NOT C GROUP, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, AND YOU WILL BE SELF-INSURED, SAY TO $10,000.

YEAH.

AND THEN, UM, SO LIKE THE, THE PLAN ONE THAT, THAT THEY ADDED, THEN THEY WILL GO FROM 10,000 TO TWO 50, THAT'S AT THE POOL LAYER.

AND THEN AFTER

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TWO 50, THAT'S WHEN YOU HIT INTO THE EXCESS.

SO WHEN YOU'RE PAYING INTO THESE LARGE NUMBERS THAT I TOLD THAT I QUOTED YOU ON THESE DIFFERENT JPA, THAT'S TO COUNT FOR THAT POOL LAYER BETWEEN WHATEVER YOUR SIR IS AND WHATEVER THE POOL HAS FOR THE MINIMUM ON THEIR EXCESS INSURANCE.

OKAY? AND IN THIS CASE, IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT BALLGAME.

YOU SELF-INSURED UP TO THAT SEVEN 50 AND ANYTHING OVER THAT IS, YOU'RE PAYING OUT A HUNDRED WHATEVER, A HUNDRED GRAND OR WHATEVER IT'S FOR THAT.

YES, THAT'S THAT OPEN FIELD THERE.

FOR WHATEVER REASON, THAT IS THE CHEAPEST THAT THE CARRIERS WILL ACCEPT IS A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS PREMIUM.

SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS GETTING AS LOW AS WE CAN ON THE SIR FOR THAT A HUNDRED THOUSAND.

UM, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WHEN I QUOTED, AND I KNOW I WENT FAST AND I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE PUT THEM UP THERE, I APOLOGIZE, BUT I WANTED TO ILLUSTRATE FOR YOU THOSE DIFFERENT S SIRS AND KIND OF THE DIFFERENCE IN HOW THOSE COSTS KIND OF GO UP.

UM, AS THE S-R-I-S-I-R GOES DOWN, RIGHT? SO WHEN I HAD QUOTED BEFORE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT HAVING AN SIR OF SAY, $10,000, YOU KNOW, YOU WERE STILL PAYING BETWEEN 4 0 9 AND 4 96 ANNUALLY IN A JPA VERSUS IF YOU HAD AN SIR OF ONE 50, IT WAS 315,000 TRYING TO A-J-J-P-A IF YOU'RE PART OF A JPA.

YEAH.

SO THAT'S KIND OF, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE I'VE GOT ALL THESE MOVING PIECES, I'M TRYING TO KIND OF COMPARE AND CONTRAST.

UM, BUT AGAIN, BASED ON OUR REALLY LOW HISTORY, I REALLY DO BELIEVE THAT THIS IS THE MOST FISCALLY PRUDENT.

UM, AND OPERATIONALLY I THINK IT'S GONNA BE THE BEST THING FOR OUR EMPLOYEES.

THANK YOU.

UH, VERY QUICKLY, I'M GONNA GO REALLY QUICKLY, OKAY.

ON THIS.

THE BUGS ARE BUGGING ME HERE, BACK HERE.

TAKE CARE OF THIS WITH THIS .

SO ANYWAY, UM, BESIDES FOSTER CITY, DO YOU MM-HMM .

DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER INTEL ON WHAT PEOPLE ARE DOING AFTER DISSOLUTION? YEAH, THEY ALL ARE.

THE OTHER FOUR ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO THE PLAN.

THEY'RE GOING TO PLAN, THERE'S, THERE'S SIMILAR PLANS THAT WE'RE DOING.

THEY'RE GOING TO JPA ARE PLAN.

I KNOW IT'S CONFUSING.

THAT'S OKAY.

SO PLAN IS WE GET OUR PROPERTY AND LIABILITY INSURANCE THROUGH, AND THEY ONLY HAD PROPERTY AND LIABILITY BECAUSE OF, SO I THINK ALL OF US MEMBERS IN C GROUP ARE PART OF PLAN.

SO BECAUSE OF THAT, THAT'S WHY THEY STARTED LOOKING INTO ADDING A WORKERS' COMP UMBRELLA.

TECHNICALLY, THERE'S A SISTER PLAN THAT THEY DO CALLED SHARP, WHICH I ALSO GOT A QUOTE FROM.

BUT THEY WON'T ACCEPT PEOPLE THAT HAVE POLICE AND FIRE FOR GOOD REASON.

RIGHT.

IT'S, THEY'RE MORE EXPENSIVE.

AND SO, UM, THAT'S WHY PLAN ADDED THIS WORKER'S COMP KIND OF ARM, IF YOU WILL, SO THAT THE OTHER MEMBERS COULD GET INTO THAT IF THEY WANTED TO.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT, IF THEY WENT AS FAR AS THEY DID IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT THE STATE FUND AND LOOKING AT SELF-FUNDED.

I JUST, I KNOW MY COUNSEL AND I KNOW THEY WOULD WANT ME TO MAKE SURE THAT I CHECKED ALL THE DIFFERENT AVENUES BEFORE I CAME WITH A RECOMMENDATION.

SO, UM, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER KIND OF ANALYSIS THEY DID, BUT THEY ARE ALL GOING TO PLAN.

OKAY.

APPRECIATE THAT.

MM-HMM .

UM, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THERE WAS AN AMOUNT THAT'S STILL IN THE JPA AND THE WORDING IN THE STAFF REPORT SAID, WELL, WE'RE GONNA GET SOME OF IT BACK.

OKAY.

SO CAN YOU CLARIFY WHAT THAT REALLY MEANS? YES.

SO WE HAVE, UM, WE'VE GOTTA WIND DOWN.

SO, UM, AND CLAIMS OR SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO, OR IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE? CLAIMS AS MUCH AS, UM, WE HAVE TO DO AN WE WON IN OUR DISSOLUTION.

WE AGREE TO AN AUDIT.

THERE'S SOME AGENCIES THAT HAVE QUESTIONS IN TERMS OF THEIR RECORDS UP UNTIL THIS POINT.

SO WE AGREED TO THAT.

UM, THERE ARE AGENCIES THAT, TO LEAVE THIS POOL, THEY HAVE TO PAY OVER $600,000 TO MAKE THEMSELVES.

RIGHT.

'CAUSE THEY WERE NOT FUNDED AS WE ARE.

UM, SO ARE WE SUBSIDIZING ANY OF THAT ON DISSOLUTION THE OTHER, THE OTHER ENTITIES, THE OTHER AGENCIES? SO IT SOUND LIKE WE'RE SUBSIDIZING A LOT OF THE PERFORMANCE OF THOSE OTHER ENTITIES.

I'M JUST MAKING SURE OUR DISSOLUTION, WE'RE STILL NOT, WE ARE.

SO WHAT THIS HAPPEN IS FOR US TO GET OUR 180 7 BACK, THEY GOTTA GIVE, THEY GOTTA PUT THEIR MONEY INTO THE POT AND THEN WE GET OURS BACK.

SO YEAH, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT LIKE THE POOL, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD A HARD YEAR AND THE REST OF THE AGENCIES KIND OF POTS OF MONEY OFFSET IT, BUT IT DIDN'T COME OUT OF OUR POT IN THE SENSE THAT OUR ACCOUNTING IS JUST FOR THE CITY OF DUBLIN.

OKAY.

BUT THOSE, THAT LIQUID MONEY THAT THOSE FUNDS YES.

WERE USED TO OFFSET THEIR COSTS AND NOW TO MAKE IT RIGHT SO THAT OUR EVERYONE'S ACCOUNTS ARE TRUE TO HAVE THIS NUMBER THAT MATCHES THE, THE LEDGER, IF YOU WILL.

THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO GET THAT MONEY FROM THEM BEFORE WE CAN REALLY DO ALL THE OTHER STUFF.

YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATE OF HOW MUCH WE MIGHT GET BACK, OR IS THAT APPROPRIATE TO BE ASKING RIGHT NOW? YOU CAN TELL.

I HAVE NO IDEA.

I WILL KNOW MORE ONCE WE START GOING THROUGH THE RFP ON THE AUDIT AND WE SEE WHAT THE COSTS COME IN FOR THE AUDIT.

OKAY.

LAST QUESTION.

MM-HMM .

UM, ON THE, UH, TRUST ACCOUNT, UH, WHAT, WHETHER THAT INCREASES OR DECREASES, WE'RE FUNDING THAT, UH, IS THIS A TRUST ACCOUNT THAT WE'RE GONNA EARN ANYTHING ON INTEREST? I DIDN'T, I DON'T THINK I SAW ANYTHING ON.

I THINK IT'S A STANDARD BANK ACCOUNT, BUT I DON'T, I WOULDN'T HAVE, I'D HAVE MEAN, WELL, ALL I WANNA KNOW IS, HEY, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE, WE'RE STRUCTURALLY ARE WE EARNING ANYTHING ON, ON THOSE FUNDS? THAT'S ALL I WANT TO KNOW.

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WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT.

IT'S, IT'S, WE'LL DEFINITELY HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA EARN WHATEVER WE EARN, UH, WITH, WITH OUR OTHER BANK OF AMERICA ACCOUNTS.

RIGHT.

SO, WELL, THERE ARE DIFFERENCES.

PROBABLY NOTHING, BUT YEAH, THAT'S ALL I WANTED.

IT IS A TRUST ACCOUNT.

YEAH.

TYPICALLY YOU MIGHT EARN SOMETHING ON THAT.

THAT WAS MY QUESTION.

OKAY.

OKAY.

APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU VICE MAYOR.

THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

JUST A, A COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS.

I KNOW YOU MENTIONED YOU LOOKED AT, UH, YOU MENTIONED 463 OTHER CITIES IN CALIFORNIA HAVE THIS SELF, UH, SELF-FUNDED, UM, POLICY OR, OR, OR TRUST PUBLIC.

PUBLIC ENTITIES.

PUBLIC ENTITIES, YES.

UH, HAVE YOU LOOKED SPECIFICALLY AT TRI VALLEY OR CITIES THAT DON'T HAVE POLICE FIGHTER AND, AND KIND OF SINGLE THOSE OUT? I DID NOT.

I JUST GOT THE LIST AND I WAS SHOCKED, , BUT I, I HADN'T DONE THAT ANALYSIS, BUT I CAN, IF NEEDED, GET IT.

UM, AND THEN IN TERMS OF, UH, YOU MENTIONED BRIEFLY MID-YEAR YOU CAN'T REALLY GET THE RFPS OR, OR CAN'T GET THE QUOTES IN, IN ORDER TO JOIN SOME OF THESE OTHER PLANS.

UM, DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO REEVALUATE WHEN, YOU KNOW, AT THE, AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR OR SO? I THINK WE, I, IF WE'RE GONNA REEVALUATE, I THINK WE GIVE OURSELVES 18 MONTHS FIRST.

SO THIS IS A PROCESS.

UM, AND SO WE WOULD HAVE TO TIME EVERYTHING TO, WITH THEIR BOARD SCHEDULES AND GIVE THEM ALL OF OUR INFORMATION.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO LET THE DESK SETTLE, BE ABLE TO GET THE PROPER REPORTS OUT AND THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, IN 18 MONTHS WE COULD MAYBE LOOK AT IT IF THAT'S THE INTEREST OF THE COUNCIL.

UM, BUT AT THIS POINT I, I'M, I'D LIKE TO SEE KIND OF HOW IT GOES JUST BECAUSE OF THE, THE COSTS WERE SO DIFFERENT AND, AND I APOLOGIZE, CIRCLING BACK TO YOUR, UM, YOUR EARLIER QUESTION.

ALL THE OTHER AGENCIES I'VE ACTUALLY WORKED FOR WERE SELF-FUNDED.

THEY DID HAVE POLICE AND OR FIRE THOUGH.

UM, BUT, UH, SAN RAMON, WALNUT CREEK, AND HAYWARD.

GOT IT.

OKAY.

UM, AND IF I UNDERSTAND IT CORRECTLY, WE WOULD COVER UP TO THE 750 K IF THERE WAS A CATASTROPHIC EVENT, AND THEN BEYOND THE SEVEN 50, THE INSURANCE WOULD WOULD PICK UP? THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY, COOL.

UM, YEAH, THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

VERY GOOD QUESTION.

UM, THANK YOU SARAH, FOR DOING COMPREHENSIVE, UM, INVESTIGATIONS.

SO WE HAVE A FEW OPTIONS TO COMPARE.

UM, SO MY QUESTION IS, UM, HOW MUCH WE WERE PAYING IN THE PAST? SO BECAUSE WE HAD THIS POT OF MONEY AND OUR EXPERIENCE WAS SO LOW, WE WERE HONESTLY ONLY PAYING $3,000 A YEAR.

AND THAT WAS GOING TO SOME ADMIN FEES, LIKE THE, LIKE A J LIKE THE TPA IN ESSENCE.

UM, BECAUSE, AND WE WOULD GET TO THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE SELF-FUNDED, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THIS ADDITIONAL MONEY, BUT WE MAY HAVE YEARS WHERE WE DON'T CONTRIBUTE TO OUR KIND OF TRUST FUND, UH, OUR TRUST ACCOUNT RATHER BECAUSE THERE'S PLENTY OF MONEY TO COVER WHAT WE EXPECT TO BE OUR LIABILITIES IN THE OUT YEARS.

SO WE WERE KIND OF SUPER FUNDED, I GUESS, IF YOU WILL, BASED ON OUR EXPERIENCE.

SO WE HAVE A VERY LOW CONTRIBUTION.

SO IT IS A BIG, UH, SHIFT FOR US.

OKAY.

GOT IT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM .

SO THAT'S ALL OUR QUESTIONS, AND ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? I HAVE NO SPEAKER SLIPS, MAYOR, NO PUBLIC COMMENT.

ARE THERE ANY DISCUSSIONS I'D LIKE TO MAKE? COMMENT.

GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU.

UM, FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR THE VERY THOROUGH REVIEW.

UM, IT IS A BIT OF A SHOCK GOING FROM PAYING 3000 A YEAR TO PAYING, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SEATING OF THE TRUST FUND IS NOT A BIG DEAL, BUT THE, THE PAYING, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS A A YEAR.

BUT, UM, I THINK IN THE LONG RUN, UM, IT IS MOST DEFINITELY THE CHEAPEST OPTION.

THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE OPTION IS PROBABLY A BETTER WORD TO SAY.

UM, BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU LOOKED AT SO MANY DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND WEIGHED THEM ALL OUT.

UM, I DO APPRECIATE, AS WAS POINTED OUT ALREADY, THE, UM, THE NO UPPER LIMIT, UM, BECAUSE YOU DON'T EVER KNOW.

I ALSO, UM, APPRECIATE THE SIR COMING DOWN FROM A MILLION TO 750,000.

I THINK THAT SERVES US WELL.

UM, AND SO I I JUST REALLY APPRECIATE ALL OF THE WORK YOU'VE DONE TO, TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T OUR CHOICE TO GO DOWN THIS ROAD RIGHT NOW, BUT ONCE WE HAD TO APPRECIATE THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT WENT INTO FINDING THE RIGHT SOLUTION FOR US.

SO SUPPORTIVE.

YEAH.

THANK, THANK YOU.

I, I THINK MORE COMMENTS FROM ANY, THERE YOU GO.

I HAD TWO, TWO QUICK COMMENTS.

SO, UH, SO OBVIOUSLY PAST PERFORMANCE, YOU KNOW, OUR PAST CLAIM HISTORY IS NO INDICATION OF THE FUTURE.

SO OF COURSE I WOULD LOVE TO KEEP AN EYE ON IT AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT GETTING UNWIELDY.

UM, I, I, I WONDER SORT OF MORE GENERALLY, IT SOUNDS LIKE AT THIS TIME WE CAN'T FIND ANOTHER JPA THAT WE WOULD ONLY BE PAYING $3,000, BUT IN THE FUTURE, I WOULD LOVE TO EXPLORE THAT OPTION AND, AND BRING THE A HUNDRED K DOWN TO THREE.

UH, BUT, BUT OTHERWISE , UM, OTHERWISE I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THIS.

THANK

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YOU.

VERY GOOD COMMENT.

SO I, I ALSO WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT, ADDITIONAL COMMENT BEYOND, UM, SARAH AND THE CITY HAS DO DOING GOOD, GREAT JOB ON LOOKING FOR SOLUTIONS, BUT I ALSO WANT TO COMMENT ON, UM, WE HAD BEEN, UM, LIKE A SPENDING VERY, LIKE A MINIMUM FOR THE WORK COMP IS ALSO, I I BELIEVE IT'S ALSO BECAUSE OUR CITY STAFF HAS A SAFE CULTURE.

YES.

AND FOR BEING DOING THIS IS, IS VERY IMPORTANT.

I JUST, I SAY WE KEEP DOING THE GOOD JOB AND PROMOTE SAFETY, AS ALWAYS, AS WHAT WE DO AND TRY TO, UM, KEEP DOING GREAT JOB IN THIS WORK COMP SITUATION.

YES, THANK YOU.

YES, WE DO.

WE HAVE SAFETY COMMITTEE, WE MEET QUARTERLY, WE DO LOTS OF BUILDING INSPECTIONS.

YEAH, SAFETY IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT'S THE FOREFRONT AND WE PUT DO PUT A LOT OF EFFORT IN IT, SO THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING THAT.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

SO ARE WE READY FOR THE MOTION? YEAH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

THANK YOU.

UH, TO APPROVE THE CITY'S TRANSITION TO SELF-FUND WORKERS' COMPENSATION MODEL, BEGINNING JANUARY 1ST, 2026, AUTHORIZE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A WORKERS' COMPENSATION TRUST ACCOUNT AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY AGREEMENTS RELATED TO THE ADMINISTRATION AND EXCESS INSURANCE.

HAPPY TO SECOND DEVOTION, WELL READ.

THANK YOU.

WE HAVE A FIRST AND SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

THE MOTION PASTOR UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, SARAH.

AND LET'S GO TO HAVE TO LOOK FOR OUR NEXT URGENT ITEM.

IT MAY NOT BE EASY TO FIND.

MY, MY STAFF

[8.1 Report on Finance and Investment Committee Roles and Responsibilities]

ONE REPORT ON FINANCE AND THE INVESTMENT COMMITTEE ROLES AND THE RESPONSIBILITIES, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I'LL BE DELIVERING THE REPORT, BUT I'M GONNA ASK JAY BACKS OF FINANCE DIRECTOR TO MOVE TO THE FRONT ROW IN CASE I GET ANYTHING WRONG.

HE CAN JUMP UP AND CORRECT ME.

UH, SO TONIGHT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FINANCE AND INVESTMENT COMMITTEE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES.

I'LL ASK, UH, MARCIA TO JUST GO, UH, SLIDE TO SLIDE.

SO, MARCIA, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO, BY WAY OF BACKGROUND, UM, THIS COMMITTEE, UM, WHICH WE CALL THE F MAYBE I'LL JUST SAY COMMITTEE WAS ESTABLISHED IN, UH, OCTOBER 24 TO SERVE AS AN ADVISORY, UM, BODY TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

AND WHAT WAS CONTEMPLATED AT THE TIME WAS THAT THE COMMITTEE WOULD LOOK AT THINGS LIKE INVESTMENTS.

UH, THE BUDGET, UH, WOULD ENGAGE IN LONG-TERM FINANCIAL PLANNING WITH STAFF WOULD LOOK AT, UH, POTENTIAL FUNDING FOR COMPLEX PROJECTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO FOR THE FIRST, UH, YEAR OR OR TWO YEARS, UH, VICE MAYOR CADRY AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARTEN WERE SELECTED TO SIT ON THE COMMITTEE.

AND THEY BEGAN MEETING IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR.

UH, THE FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS, WHICH ACTUALLY TURNED INTO ITEMS OF BUSINESS BECAUSE IT SPANNED MULTIPLE MEETINGS, UH, WAS THE REVIEW OF INVESTMENT POLICY, WHICH CULMINATED IN THE RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL IN SEPTEMBER THAT YOU ALL APPROVED.

UH, BUT THEY'VE ALSO BEEN ENGAGING IN QUARTERLY INVESTMENT REVIEWS BEFORE YOU GET THEM AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL.

NEXT SLIDE.

UH, AT OUR LAST COUNCIL MEETING, THERE WAS A QUEST, A REQUEST UNDER ITEM NINE TO LOOK AT WHETHER WE SHOULD EXPAND THE COMMITTEE'S ROLE INTO OTHER FINANCE MATTERS.

UM, AND SO TO SET THE STAGE THERE, I I LOOKED BACK AT ALL THE AGENDA ITEMS FROM, UH, JANUARY TO NOW, UH, TO SEE HOW MANY WERE RELATED TO FINANCE.

UM, THERE WERE 84, THESE ARE SORT OF THE LARGER CATEGORIES.

UM, 52 PURCHASING ITEMS, 15 BUDGET PREP AND ADOPTION ITEMS, AND THEN ANOTHER 17 ITEMS RELATED TO REPORTING AND FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO IN THINKING ABOUT THE MOST APPROPRIATE ITEMS FOR THE COMMITTEE, UM, WHEN WE LOOKED AT ALL THOSE ITEMS, WE WERE LOOKING FOR LEVEL OF COMPLEXITY, RIGHT? SO, UM, ITEMS THAT ARE MORE COMPLEX THAT ARE MULTIFACETED AND ITEMS THAT IMPACT OUR LONG-TERM FINANCIAL STABILITY.

SO THOSE ARE THINGS LIKE OUR INVESTMENT PORTFOLIO AND THE STRATEGY THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT.

UM, THE BUDGET PREPARATION AND THE TENURE FORECAST.

ANY SPECIAL PROJECT FINANCING, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD, UH, A HANDFUL OF BOND SALES IN THE COMMUNITY.

THERE WILL BE A ANOTHER COUPLE CONTEMPLATED WITH, UM, WITH DECISIONS RELATED TO COMMUNITY FACILITIES, DISTRICTS THAT ARE COMING UP.

SO THAT'S A, A, A VERY COMPLEX AND TECHNICAL, UM, ITEM THAT THE COMMITTEE WOULD, UH, DO WELL TO REVIEW BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL DOES.

AND THEN FINANCIAL POLICY.

SO AGAIN, YOU, UH, THE COMMITTEE REVIEWED THE INVESTMENT POLICY.

WE'VE TALKED TO THE COMMITTEE ABOUT THEIR NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS, LOOKING AT THE FUND BALANCE POLICY.

SO THAT LOOKS AT LEVELS OF RESERVES.

UM, AND THAT REALLY HAS TO DO WITH LONG-TERM FINANCIAL PLANNING.

THE LESS COMPLEX ITEMS INCLUDE, UM, MOST OF THE PURCHASING ITEMS, RIGHT? WE HAVE PARAMETERS AND, AND, AND INTERNAL PROCESSES THAT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE.

UM, WE HAVE GRANTS, UH, AGREEMENTS, FEE ADOPTIONS.

THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE, UH, MUCH LESS COMPLEX AND HAVE TYPICALLY BEEN HANDLED,

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UM, WITH FACILITY AT THE CITY COUNCIL LEVEL.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO FOR STAFF, UM, AN EXTRA, EXTRA LEVEL OF SCRUTINY ON THE MORE COMPLEX ITEMS IS VERY VALUABLE.

IT GIVES US A FIRST SET OF EYES ON THAT INFORMATION AND ALLOWS, UH, THE COMMITTEE TO DIG INTO THE DETAILS, RIGHT? UM, AND TO DISCUSS THE LONG-TERM TRENDS THAT ARE IMPACTING OUR COMMUNITY.

IT ALSO CREATES ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO JOIN THOSE MEETINGS AND WEIGH IN ON ITEMS SUCH AS POTENTIAL REVENUE MEASURES.

WE HAD TALKED, UH, EARLIER IN THE YEAR ABOUT INCREASING OUR TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TAX.

SO THAT WOULD BE ONE, UM, IF WE EVER CONTEMPLATED A SALES TAX INCREASE, THAT WOULD BE ONE.

UH, AND FI ANY FINANCING OF COMPLEX PROJECTS WITH THE, UH, DOWNTOWN PROJECT.

IT WAS SORT OF CONTEMPLATED, UM, BUT NOT AGREED TO AT THE TIME THAT WE MIGHT CONSIDER FINANCING, UH, THE CONSTRUCTION OF A PUBLIC PARKING GARAGE.

SO THAT WOULD BE A COMPLEX ITEM THAT THE COMMITTEE COULD TAKE ON AND DELVE INTO BEFORE IT REACHES THE LEVEL OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UH, SO, UM, IN THAT VEIN, STAFF ALREADY HAS PLANS FOR THE COMMITTEE TO MEET ON BUDGET REVIEWS.

SO THAT WOULD BE THE MID-YEAR BUDGET.

UH, THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET REPORT, WHICH REMEMBER WAS SEVERAL MEETINGS, UH, IN THE LAST YEAR BEFORE IT COMES TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

UM, AS I SAID BEFORE, FINANCIAL POLICY REVIEW.

SO THE FUND BALANCE POLICY WOULD BE THE NEXT ONE.

UM, AND THEN BOND ISSUANCE REVIEW.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

WE'VE ALSO CONSIDERED HAVING THE COMMITTEE REVIEW THE AUDIT, UH, IN LIEU OF HAVING A SEPARATE COMMITTEE, UH, WHICH IS THE AD HOC AUDIT SUBCOMMITTEE EVERY YEAR WHERE IT CHANGES EVERY YEAR.

AND YOU NAME IT, UH, TWO NEW PEOPLE WHOSE ONLY JOB IS TO HAVE ONE MEETING WITH THE AUDITORS TO LOOK AT A VERY COMPLEX DOCUMENT.

SO TO ME, IT, IT COULD MAKE BETTER SENSE TO HAVE THE FINANCE AND INVESTMENT COMMITTEE SERVICE THAT, UH, REVIEW BODY.

SO THAT'S THE INFORMATION THAT I HAVE FOR YOU.

UM, AND I'M OPEN TO YOUR FEEDBACK OR QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

SO WE'LL LOOK FOR QUESTIONS FIRST.

OKAY.

DO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YES.

UH, THANK YOU MAYOR, AND THANK YOU CITY MANAGER FOR THAT VERY EXCELLENT REPORT.

UM, I AM THE ONE WHO BROUGHT THIS UP, SO I GUESS I GET TO GO FIRST.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, SO ALLOW ME TO, FIRST OF ALL, THANK MY PEERS ON CITY COUNCIL FOR, UH, ENTERTAINING THE IDEA, UM, FROM, FROM MY REQUEST ON ITEM NINE.

UH, BUT I DO FEEL BAD BECAUSE I DIDN'T NECESSARILY EXPLAIN THE WHAT OF, OF WHAT WE WERE REVIEWING.

I, I EXPLAINED THE WHY, RIGHT? WHICH WAS, WE WANNA DO THIS, UH, FOR THE SAKE OF, UH, REVIEWS.

SO IN THAT STEAD, WHAT I DID WAS I PREPARED SOMETHING, WHAT I, WOULD I BE ALLOWED TO SHARE THIS, THIS SPREADSHEET? OKAY.

SO IF I MAY, I'M GONNA PASS THIS OR THESE OVER, PASS SEVERAL OF THESE OVER, OVER THIS WAY.

AND I, SORRY, I DIDN'T MAKE ENOUGH COPIES FOR THE PUBLIC, BUT, UH, WELL, WE'LL MAKE SURE YOU GET A, A VERSION OF IT IN THE NOTES.

UM, SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE LESSONS YOU LEARN AS A CONSULTANT IS OBVIOUSLY TO PROVIDE THE BEST POSSIBLE REPRESENTATION OF WHAT YOUR IDEAS ARE IN A MATRIX.

SO, , IN THIS PARTICULAR MATRIX THAT'S IN FRONT OF THIS, UH, WHAT I TRY TO DEFINE, UH, SO MAYOR, I'M GONNA TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME HERE, PROBABLY A BIT MORE LONGER THAN I TYPICALLY TALK, BUT I JUST WANNA WALK THROUGH WHAT THE SPREADSHEET LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT IT MEANS.

SO WE WOULD DISCUSS THE WHY.

UH, NOW WHAT WE HAVE IS THIS IDEA OF WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS IT THAT WE NEED TO REVIEW, WHEN DO WE NEED TO REVIEW IT? WHAT ARE THE CYCLES THAT WE NEED TO DO IN ORDER TO REVIEW IT PROPERLY? AND THEN HOW WOULD WE GO ABOUT IT? THE IDEA SIMPLY BEING THAT FOR TODAY, I'D LIKE TO SHARE THIS AS A FRAMEWORK FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION.

WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, PUT A RESOLUTION TOGETHER AT THIS POINT.

THIS IS A DISCUSSION POINT.

SO I'M SHARING THIS ON BEHALF OF, YOU KNOW, JUST ALL OF US.

WE CAN HAVE SOMETHING TO BEGIN WITH TO HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS FOR THE AUDIENCE, UH, FOR OUR, FOR OUR RESIDENTS IN THE, IN THE AUDIENCE.

UM, THOSE WERE THE COLUMNS.

WHAT WE HAVE ON THE ROWS ARE ABOUT 24 PARTICULAR FINANCE REPORTS OR FINANCE IMPACTFUL REPORTS THAT I COULD GLEAN FROM EITHER PRIOR NOTES OR JUST THROUGH THE NORMAL COURSE OF BUSINESS OF RUNNING A CITY.

UH, AND SO WHAT I DID WAS, FOR EACH ITEM, WHICH WAS THE, WHAT I ALSO WROTE DOWN THE CYCLE OF WHEN THOSE REPORTS ARE REVIEWED.

AND THEN I WROTE, UH, FOUR PARTICULAR COLUMNS, WHICH I FELT ARE INDICATIVE OF WHAT WE COULD PROPOSE HERE FOR THE, FOR THE COMMITTEE, THE, TO BE ABLE TO REVIEW AND ADD TO THEIR RESPONSIBILITY.

SO THE FIRST COLUMN IS TITLED AWARE, WHICH IS, SHOULD THIS COMMITTEE BE AWARE OF THIS PARTICULAR REPORT? AND GUESS WHAT, EVERY 24 ITEMS I SAID, YES.

RIGHT? SO THE COMMITTEE SHOULD BE AWARE OF OUR ANNUAL REPORT, OUR QUARTERLY FINANCE REVIEW, OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT

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REPORT, WORKERS' COMPENSATION, SPECIAL PROJECTS, CONTRACT AGREEMENTS, ET CETERA.

IN THE NEXT COLUMN I HAD TITLED ADVISE.

SO IN THAT COLUMN, IT IS THE, WOULD IT BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE COMMITTEE TO ADVISE ON THIS PARTICULAR REPORT? AGAIN, IF YOU, IF WE GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF THE COMMITTEE, UM, IT IS IN AN ADVISORY ROLE.

IT IS A NON-GI LEGISLATIVE ROLE.

SO I TOOK THAT INTO ACCOUNT BY PUTTING ADVISE AND PUTTING CHECKS WHERE I THOUGHT THE COMMITTEE COULD PROVIDE PRELIMINARY ADVISORY SUPPORT.

THE NEXT COLUMN WOULD BE AUDIT, UH, WHICH IS DOES THE COMMITTEE HAVE THE AUDIT RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT'S IN THAT REPORT DOES IN FACT MATCH THE, THE, THE PROPER BALANCES, THE PROPER CHECKS, ET CETERA.

AND THE FINAL ONE IS ADJUDICATE.

SO WOULD THE COMMITTEE HAVE THE RIGHT AND PRIVILEGE AND AUTHORITY TO ADJUDICATE ANY DISCREPANCIES? AND BECAUSE THIS IS A LEGIS, THIS IS A NON-GI LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE, EVERY ROW HAS AN X, MEANING THEY DON'T HAVE THAT RESPONSIBILITY, RIGHT? SO REALLY THE ONLY THREE MAIN RESPONSIBILITIES I'M ADVOCATING FOR WOULD BE TO BE AWARE THAT THERE, THERE'S A NEW REPORT, THE CYCLES AT WHICH THE REPORT'S REVIEWED.

NUMBER TWO, UH, PROVIDING ADVISORY SUPPORT ON THAT REPORT.

AND NUMBER THREE, HAVING THE ABILITY TO AUDIT CERTAIN REPORTS SO THAT THEY CAN PRE-REVIEW BEFORE IT COMES TO COUNCIL.

SO THOSE, AGAIN, THIS IS A FRAMEWORK BY WHICH I THINK WE COULD CONTINUE TO HAVE FURTHER CONVERSATIONS, BUT I WANTED TO SHARE THIS WITH ALL OF YOU SO THAT YOU HAVE A PRE-READ INTO THE WAY I WAS THINKING ABOUT IT.

OKAY.

FOR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT THIS, THIS IS GOOD FRAMEWORK.

UM, SOME OF THIS, UH, IS WELL THOUGHT OUT.

I MEAN, IT'S ALL WELL THOUGHT OUT.

UM, MY ONLY, AND THIS IS ACTUALLY, I DON'T WANNA GO BACK AND FORTH ON THIS, BUT I AM, I'M CURIOUS, IS, UH, PART OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES, I WOULD THINK ARE TO, UH, FIRST NOT ONLY JUST LOOK, BUT ALSO RECOMMEND.

SO IT'S, IT'S, UM, IT'S A SUBCOMMITTEE THAT SAYS, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS.

WE'VE GOT SOME QUESTIONS, UH, YEAH, HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THIS? WHAT ABOUT THIS? BUT WE, THE, THE COMMITTEE SHOULD ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO RECOMMEND CERTAIN ASPECTS TO, TO THE FULL COUNCIL BEFORE.

SO IT MAY GO BACK, IT MAY BE TWEAKED, WHATEVER, BUT WE SHOULD VET THAT OUT, IS ALL I'M SAYING IS, AND YOU USE THE TERM ADJUDICATE.

AND I, I TOOK THAT AS SAYING, THIS COMMITTEE HAS NO POWER, WHICH THE COMMITTEES THAT I SIT ON IN OTHER AGENCIES DO HAVE THAT POWER OF RECOMMENDATION.

AND THEY GO BACK AND THEY TWEAK IT A LITTLE BIT AND SAY, OKAY, NOW WE'RE READY, AND WE MOVE IT FORWARD.

UH, SO WHETHER THOSE ARE BUDGET COMMITTEES, FINANCE COMMITTEES, WHATEVER, THEY DO HAVE SOME POWER OF NOT ONLY SCRUTINY, BUT MAKING A CERTAIN LOW LEVEL DECISION ON, ON CERTAIN ASPECTS AND CERTAIN DETAILS.

CAN I INTERRUPT FOR JUST A POINT OF PRIVILEGE FOR ONE SECOND? OH, GO AHEAD.

YEAH.

UM, CAN WE DO CLARIFYING QUESTIONS AND THEN SEE IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE WE, UM, DEBATE? I APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, YEAH.

YOU KNOW, UM, I ACTUALLY DID HAVE, UH, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND I APPRECIATE YOUR PULLING THAT BECAUSE, UH, I, I WAS DI DIGRESSING ON THAT.

UM, BUT WHEN WE, I, I, I LIKE, I LIKE THE MO THE MOST WHERE WE'RE MOVING IN ALL THIS, AND I THINK IT'S, IT'S A GOOD THING.

UM, WHAT I, AS FAR AS CLARIFYING QUESTIONS ARE, I WOULD ASSUME WITH THIS ADDITIONAL, UM, UH, RESPONSIBILITY, UH, RIGHT NOW THE COMMITTEE ONLY IN, UH, MEETS ON A QUARTERLY BASIS.

SO WHAT WAS YOUR, WHAT WAS YOUR THOUGHT ON, UH, FREQUENCY IN SOME OF THIS? AND I WAS JUST, I WAS LOOKING AT HIS, I WAS, OH, COOL.

HE IS ALREADY DONE THIS NOW.

BUT, UM, SERIOUSLY, AS YOU, AS WE GO MORE AND MORE INTO THIS, AND WE LOOK AT DIFFERENT PROJECTS, AND AS, AS COUNCIL MEMBER MARATA SAID, HE USED THE TERM CYCLES, UM, AS WE LOOK AT THESE THINGS AND THESE, THESE PROJECTS AND THESE, UH, RESPONSIBILITIES COME UP ONCE A QUARTER IS NOT ENOUGH.

SO I WAS JUST WONDERING IF WE'VE GIVEN SOME THOUGHT ABOUT PERHAPS THE FREQUENCY AND MAYBE HAVE IT ONCE A MONTH, UH, TO, TO, AND TO LOOK AT ALL OF THESE AS THEY COME THROUGH.

SO I APPRE I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION.

YEAH.

AND I THOUGHT ABOUT IT.

YEAH.

UM, AND WHILE THE VOLUME OF WORK ISN'T GREAT, UM, THERE ARE GOING TO BE TIMES WHERE MEETING WITH THE COMMITTEE IS REQUIRED.

THAT'S FALLS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE QUARTER MM-HMM .

UM, SO I, I LOOKED AT ONE, UH, A COUPLE OTHER EXAMPLES, UM, OF HOW CITIES HANDLE THIS.

AND I, I THINK IT, IT PROBABLY WOULD BEHOOVE

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US TO HAVE A MONTHLY CALENDAR.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE GONNA MEET MONTHLY, BUT WE WOULD HAVE MONTHLY SCHEDULED MEETINGS.

UM, AND IF THERE'S NO BUSINESS FOR THAT MONTH, THERE'S NO ITEM, UH, THAT'S GOING TO THE COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION.

IT WOULD BE A CANCELED MEETING, BUT WE WOULD HAVE THE STANDING, UH, MONTHLY CALENDAR.

THAT'S MY IDEA.

UM, THE, THE COMMITTEE COULD REVIEW THE CALENDAR AT EACH MEETING TO SEE WHAT THE NEXT THREE, FOUR MONTHS LOOK LIKE, UM, ADD OR REMOVE ITEMS. UM, SO I, I THINK THAT'S MANAGEABLE.

YEAH.

OKAY.

AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION IS, UM, UH, IN YOUR PRESENTATION YOU POINTED OUT, UH, WHAT WAS THE TERM YOU USED, SIGNIFICANT OR, OR COMPLEX VERSUS NOT COMPLEX.

AND, UH, YOU IDENTIFY THE NON-COMPLEX AS MORE OPERATIONAL, UH, CONTRACTS, UM, PAYMENTS, THINGS LIKE THAT MM-HMM .

AND IT LOOKS LIKE YOUR RECOMMENDATION DOES NOT INCLUDE THAT.

IS THERE ANY PARTIC PARTICULAR REASON WHY, UH, YOU'VE FOCUSED IN ON CERTAIN THINGS THAT YOU HAVE? WELL, AGREEMENTS ARE, ARE NOT, UH, COMPLEX IN NATURE, IN MY MIND.

THERE ARE PROBABLY SOME EXCEPTIONS TO THAT, BUT, UM, AN AGREEMENT FOR JANITORIAL SERVICES, IF WE'RE GONNA RENEW OUR AGREEMENT, UH, AND WE'RE GIVING THEM A THREE AND A HALF PERCENT INCREASE, UM, THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT A COMPLEX, UH, ISSUE THAT I FEEL WOULD BENEFIT FROM ADDED SCRUTINY, UH, BY A COMMITTEE.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK THE CITY COUNCIL COULD TAKE ON AND HEAR THE ITEM THAT NIGHT AND DECIDE IT RATHER QUICKLY.

UM, SO THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, PURCHASING, UH, A FIRE TRUCK MM-HMM .

UH, WE HAVE A BUDGET FOR IT, UH, BUT WE NEED TO GET APPROVAL BECAUSE IT'S OVER MY PURCHASE AUTHORITY.

NOTHING TERRIBLY COMPLEX ABOUT THAT.

IF WE'RE REPLACING A, A FIRE ENGINE OR A FIRE TRUCK, WE WOULD COME TO THE COUNCIL AND ASK FOR YOUR BLESSING TO DO THAT.

AND IT'S NOT REALLY A, IT'S NOT MULTIFACETED.

UM, IT DOESN'T REQUIRE REALLY ANALYSIS BECAUSE WE HAVE PROCESSES AND PROCEDURES IN PLACE FOR HOW WE DO OUR PURCHASING, RIGHT.

SO WE HAVE, YEAH, WE HAVE A LOT OF GUIDELINES AND, AND SORT OF BOXES AROUND THOSE THINGS THAT ARE LESS COMPLEX.

OKAY.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND SORRY FOR MY DIGRESSION.

WE'LL, WE'LL HIT IT UP ON THE, UH, THE DISCUSSION PART.

UM, NOT YET.

HOLD ON.

WE ASK, UH, EVERYBODY WHEN WE FINISH QUESTIONS, AND THEN THAT'S A PUBLIC COMMENT.

CAN I ASK A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION? YES.

WHEN YOU SAID THE WORK IS NOT GREAT, I'M, I'M, AS I WANNA CLARIFY THAT YOU MEANT THE WORK THAT YOU ARE RECOMMEND RECOMMENDING GOES TO THE COMMITTEE, NOT THE WORK THAT WE WERE JUST HANDED.

UM, YEAH, IN THAT'S CORRECT.

I HAVE NOT, I HAD, I HAVE NOT REVIEWED THIS, SO I'M SPEAKING ABOUT WHAT I PREPARED FOR YOU TONIGHT.

YEAH.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S MY ONLY QUESTION FOR, UH, THAT'S MY ONLY QUESTION FOR RIGHT NOW.

NO QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS.

SO WE ARE READY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

I ACTUALLY HAVE NO SPEAKER SLIPS AT THIS TIME.

MAYOR FOR PUBLIC, CAN HE MAKE A COMMENT? HE HAS, UH, HAND RAISED.

OKAY.

PLEASE GO AHEAD.

YOU CAN COME OVER TO THERE.

SO, MY NAME IS BRUCE RAIT.

I'VE LIVED IN DUBLIN, UH, 25 YEARS.

UM, WE HAVE TWO VERY DIFFERENT PROPOSALS HERE.

ONE, UH, THE CITY MANAGER'S PROPOSAL IS VERY HIGH LEVEL.

LET'S STEP BACK.

LET'S LOOK AT THE THINGS THAT COULD HAVE A BIG IMPACT ON THE FINANCES AND JUST FOCUS ON THOSE, UH, AND NOT DEAL WITH THE SMALL STUFF.

THE OTHER PROPOSAL IS VERY PROGRAMMATIC, AND IT'S LIKE ALL THESE STANDARD REPORTS WE HAVE, LET'S GO SPEND OUR TIME SCRUTINIZING ALL THESE STANDARD REPORTS.

AND I THINK GIVEN THE, THE RESOURCES WE HAVE HERE AND THE FOCUS THAT THE CITY MANAGER'S PROPOSAL IS MUCH BETTER, IT'S A MUCH BETTER USE OF THE COMMITTEE'S TIME AND FOCUSING ON UNIQUE, BIG ISSUES VERSUS TREADING THROUGH, OH, A 25 STANDARD REPORTS THAT COME OUT EVERY YEAR.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENT.

SO WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND LET'S BRING BACK FOR OUR DISCUSSIONS.

DO YOU WANT TO DISCUSS? GO AHEAD, VICE MAYOR.

UM, SO I THINK WE'RE ON SIMILAR WAVELENGTHS.

I ACTUALLY PREPARED A SPREADSHEET, UH, A CHART WITH DIFFERENT ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES.

I ACTUALLY DID SOME RESEARCH BASED ON, UH, SURROUNDING CITIES OF SAN RAMON, HAYWARD, AND SARATOGA, JUST TO SORT OF GET A FEEL FOR WHAT THEY HAVE INCLUDED AS PART OF THEIR FINANCE INVESTMENT COMMITTEE.

I DID NOT, UH, I DID NOT PRINT IT, SO I CANNOT SHARE IT.

BUT, UM, I THINK THE,

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THE PRIMARY FUNCTION, THE WAY I SEE IT IS ADVISORY.

AND AS THE, UH, CITY MANAGER MENTIONED PRECO SCRUTINY, FOCUSED ON THE POLICY SIDE OF THINGS, UM, I, I, I THINK WHERE WE ARE NOW, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS ESTABLISHED, UH, JUST OVER A YEAR AGO, I THINK WE'RE STARTING TO GET A GOOD CADENCE.

I THINK WHERE WE ARE NOW IS PROBABLY THE RIGHT LEVEL.

PERHAPS WE INCLUDE THE AUDIT PIECE OF IT, WHICH IS, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST BECAUSE OF THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION.

BUT I, I, UH, I KIND OF LIKE WHERE IT IS NOW.

I'M HAPPY TO HAVE ADDITIONAL MEETINGS AND KIND OF DIVE IN MORE ON THE FINANCE SIDE AS OPPOSED TO JUST THE INVESTMENT SIDE THAT WE'VE BEEN FOCUSED ON FOCUSING ON FOR THE PAST YEAR.

BUT I KIND OF FEEL LIKE IT'S AT THE RIGHT LEVEL, UM, OF, OF KIND OF GOING INTO THOSE COMPLEX MATTERS AND, AND THE POLICY ORIENTATION OF, OF THINGS AS OPPOSED TO REALLY GETTING INTO THE WEEDS.

AND, AND I FEEL LIKE FROM A TRANSPARENCY PERSPECTIVE AND ACCOUNTABILITY PERSPECTIVE, IT'S PROBABLY BETTER TO HAVE THOSE IN A PUBLIC FORUM AND IN, IN OUR COUNCIL MEETINGS.

WELL, THANK YOU.

I, I AGREE WITH VICE MAYOR.

UM, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT COUNCIL DOES AND WHAT STAFF DOES, RIGHT? THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SETTING POLICY AND, UM, GETTING INTO HOW WE WRITE A CONTRACT OR WHAT WE WRITE A CONTRACT FOR AND ALL THOSE THINGS.

AND WHILE I APPRECIATE THE AMOUNT OF EFFORT THAT YOU'VE PUT INTO THIS, I DON'T AGREE WITH THE PRESENT, THE, THE CONCLUSION THAT YOU'VE COME TO, UM, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THIS IS STAFF WORK.

UM, OUR JOBS ARE, YES, OVERSIGHT, UM, AND SETTING THE POLICIES, BUT HAVING FIVE REPORTS ON A MONTHLY BASIS THAT ARE ALREADY, FOR THE MOST PART, THINGS THAT COME TO US ON CONSENT THAT ARE NON-CON CONTROVERSIAL, WHICH IS WHY THEY'RE ON CONSENT, UM, IS A WASTE, IN MY OPINION, OF STAFF'S TIME TO PRESENT THEM TO A SECOND COMMITTEE BEFORE THEY COME TO US.

AND IS NOT THE LEVEL OF DETAIL THAT, UM, WE SHOULD BE ASKING STAFF TO DO FOR MULTIPLE STAFF REPORTS FOR MULTIPLE COMMITTEES.

UM, I AGREE WITH THE FINANCE COMMITTEE LOOKING AT THE BIG LONG-TERM INVESTMENT POLICIES, THE, UM, THE, THE THINGS WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, UM, THEES OUR CADENCE OF REVIEWS FOR WHAT DO WE DO WHEN WE HAVE A SURPLUS? WHAT DO WE DO? UM, AS WE'RE LOOKING TOWARDS OUR EXPENSES ARE STARTING TO, UM, OVERTAKE OUR REVENUES IN THE FUTURE.

DO WE WANT TO LOOK INTO, UM, A TOT INCREASE? DO WE WANNA LOOK INTO OTHER REVENUE MEASURES? ALL OF THOSE KINDS OF THINGS THAT REALLY NEED TO BE WORKSHOPPED.

I THINK THAT HAVING AN INVESTMENT IN FINANCE COMMITTEE SET UP IS A GREAT IDEA.

I'M PERSONALLY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH, UM, EVEN BUDGET BEING IN THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, AND I HAVE BEEN ALL ALONG.

UM, ONLY BECAUSE, UM, YOUR BUDGET IS YOUR VALUES AS A COUNCIL, RIGHT? AND PARTICULARLY AS WE MOVE TO BY DISTRICT, UM, WHEN WE COMPLETE THAT WITH THE NEXT ELECTION, UM, THERE MIGHT BE TIMES, ESPECIALLY AS WE KNOW AND WHEN WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE SURPLUSES ALL THE TIME WHEN WE'RE DECIDING, DO WE PUT THE MONEY INTO A PARK IN DISTRICT ONE OR A PARK IN DISTRICT THREE, RIGHT? AND WHAT I WANNA AVOID IN THE FUTURE IS THIS COMMITTEE BECOMING POLITICAL IN ANY WAY.

UM, AND SO IF WE ARE PUTTING THE BUDGET IN FRONT OF THIS COMMITTEE WHERE THEY'RE GONNA BE DISCUSSING AND ADVISING TO COUNCIL ON PRIORITIES FOR BUDGET, UM, I WOULD ADVOCATE STRONGLY FOR, UM, THE MAYOR BEING ON THE COMMITTEE ONLY BECAUSE, UM, THERE SHOULD BE SOMEBODY THAT IS NOT BY DISTRICT ON THAT COMMITTEE.

AND THE ONLY SEAT AT THIS DIOCESE THAT WILL BE IN THAT POSITION WOULD BE THE MAYOR, WHOEVER THAT IS, AND HAVE THAT BE SORT OF A STANDING PRACTICE THAT THE MAYOR IS ON THE COMMITTEE MOVING FORWARD.

UM, IF THE BUDGET IS SOMETHING THAT IS WITH THIS COMMITTEE, THEN I, I WOULD ADVOCATE THAT IT BE, UM, SORT OF REVIEWING THE BUDGET, YOU KNOW, UM, AT THE END OF A FISCAL YEAR, WHAT WAS OUR AMENDED BUDGET? WHAT WERE OUR ACTUALS? DID WE MEET IT? WHY NOT DIGGING INTO WHERE WERE THE, WHERE WERE THE CONDITIONS THAT CAME UP AND THEN MOVING FORWARD, UM, ARE THERE CHANGES THAT WE WANNA SEE, UM, FROM A POLICY LEVEL? BUT WE ALREADY HAVE, UM, TWO MEETINGS WHERE WE TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET, WE TALK ABOUT THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET, WHERE COUNCIL GETS TO SAY, LOOK, I THINK WE SHOULD TWEAK THIS, TWEAK THAT THE CLASSIC EXAMPLE THAT WE USE IN DUBLIN IS LIBRARY HOURS, RIGHT? WHERE WE HAVE, UM, SAID, WE THINK WE ARE GONNA HAVE, UM, A SURPLUS.

IS THERE ANYTHING THAT THE COUNCIL SUGGESTS WE WANNA DO? AND OFTEN IT'S, LET'S ADD LIBRARY HOURS, RIGHT? UM, THAT SHOULD BE THE JOB OF THE ENTIRE COUNCIL.

UM, AND WHILE I CERTAINLY DON'T MIND A, A SUBSET OF US, A SUBCOMMITTEE OF US, UM, PREVIEWING IT, SEEING IT, WHAT I DON'T WANT IS FOR A SUBSET OF COUNCIL TO BE RECOMMENDING WHERE WE ARE

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ADDING MONEY OR SUBTRACTING MONEY.

BECAUSE, UM, IN MY MIND, THAT IS THE JOB OF THE COUNCIL.

I BELIEVE COUNCIL IS DIFFERENT THAN THE BOARDS THAT WE SIT ON IN OTHER PLACES.

IT'S DIFFERENT FROM LTA, IT'S DIFFERENT FROM AVA, IT'S DIFFERENT FROM STOP WASTE.

UM, IN THAT CITY COUNCILS DO A LOT MORE THAN WHAT THOSE, EACH OF THOSE REGIONAL BOARDS DOES.

EACH ONE OF THOSE BOARDS IS FORMED FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE.

LTA, WE JUST DO BUSES, RIGHT? WE DO EVERYTHING TO DO WITH PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.

AVA IS JUST ABOUT ENERGY AND THE STRUCTURE OF THOSE, THOSE BOARDS ARE DIFFERENT.

THEY ALMOST ALWAYS HAVE A FINANCE OF SOME SORT SUBCOMMITTEE AND A PROJECTS OF SOME SORT SUBCOMMITTEE.

AND THE BOARDS ARE DIVIDED KIND OF IN TWO TO TALK ABOUT THOSE THINGS.

THAT'S NOT WHAT WE DO ON COUNCIL.

SO I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF HAVING A FINANCE SUBCOMMITTEE THAT TALKS ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE BROAD STROKES, POLICY RELATED, BUT TO BE GETTING INTO THE WEEDS THIS DEEPLY, I AM NOT SUPPORTIVE OF.

UM, AND I AM NOT SUPPORTIVE OF THEM, UM, BEING ADVISORY ON THINGS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE EITHER CONTROVERSIAL OR, UM, POLITICAL.

UM, SO WITH THAT, I'M, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE SORT OF, THE WAY WE'RE DOING IT NOW.

I'M SUPPORTIVE OF ADDING SOME FUTURE BIG PICTURE, BIG TICKET ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE WORKSHOPPED THAT ARE LONG-TERM, BUT I'M NOT IN ANY WAY SUPPORTIVE OF ADDING THIS LEVEL OF DETAIL TO THAT COMMITTEE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UM, MICHAEL? YEAH.

OKAY.

SO WHERE DO I START? FIRST OF ALL, UM, I APPRECIATE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MARADA AND COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, KADRI.

AND THE AMOUNT OF TIME THEY SPENT THINKING ABOUT THIS DETAIL AND WHAT IT DID, IT ALLOWED US TO DISCUSS THIS.

OKAY? SO THIS IS POSITIVE.

UM, I MAY DISAGREE WITH SOME OF THIS.

UM, AND I WOULD AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'VE SAID TO SOME DEGREE IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO BE DOING THIS.

AND THE SPEAKER WAS KIND OF BEING QUITE OBVIOUS ABOUT THIS, RIGHT? IS THAT THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY A JOB.

BUT WHAT HE'S DONE HERE IS HE'S PROVIDED SOME STRUCTURE FOR US TO, TO THINK ABOUT, WELL, YOU KNOW, THIS DOESN'T REALLY FIT, RIGHT.

UM, I WOULD BE IN, IN FAVOR OF, UH, LOOKING AT HIGH LEVEL, UH, AS YOU SAID, I MEAN, LOOK, I'M NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE WORDING OR, OR REPEAT, BUT BASICALLY WHAT YOU SAID IS THAT WE'RE HERE TO ADVISE PRIMARILY, UM, IF THERE'S A SITUATION WHERE THAT COMMITTEE HAS MORE KNOWLEDGE, UH, WHETHER IT'S PROFESSIONAL OR OTHERWISE, THEY SHOULD BE, IN SOME CASES, ABLE TO DIRECT THAT, UM, THAT THE STAFF IN THE DIRECTION IT SHOULD BEFORE IT'S RECOMMENDED TO, TO COUNCIL.

WE CAN GET INTO ALL THE DIFFERENCES OF ALL THE DIFFERENT AGENCIES AND WHY, AND WHY THEY ARE THERE AND WHY WE'RE HERE.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S NECESSARY.

I THINK, UH, BASICALLY I, I'M LOOKING AT WHAT STAFF IS PRESENTED, AND I WOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM INCLUDING NOT ONLY THE INVESTMENT AND THE AUDIT, BUT TO A VERY HIGH DEGREE, UH, A FIRST LOOK AT THE DIRECTION OF THE BUDGET.

AND I THINK YOU'RE ALLUDING TO THAT AS WELL.

YOU MAY NOT BE TOTALLY AGREED WITH THAT, BUT WE SHOULD UNDERSTAND THE DIRECTIONS OF WHERE WE'RE GOING.

WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS, UH, IN A SUBCOMMITTEE FORUM RATHER THAN BEFORE WE GET UP HERE.

UH, WE MAY NOT HAVE THE ADJUDICATION CAPABILITY, BUT, UM, I THINK THOSE TYPES OF, UH, CONCERNS SHOULD BE LOOKED AT IN A MORE TIMELY MANNER, RATHER THAN WHEN WE EVER GET, WHEN WE GET AROUND TO IT ON A, A, A, UM, LESS FREQUENT BASIS.

SO, IN SUMMARY, I, I DO APPRECIATE THE LEVEL OF DETAIL THAT WE'RE ASKED TO THINK ABOUT.

I THINK WE SHOULD COME BACK AND SAY, OKAY, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT, THAT WE SHOULD ABSOLUTELY, UH, INCLUDE.

CERTAINLY THE, THE INVESTMENTS, UH, AND THE LONG-TERM FINANCIAL PLANNING.

UH, UH, CERTAINLY, UH, IN MY MIND, THE, THE AUDIT, BECAUSE, UH, QUITE FRANKLY, IT, IT'S, IT, RIGHT NOW, THE WAY IT'S DONE, IT'S, IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S A CYCLE.

AND, AND NOT EVERY, IT IS GREAT FOR EXPOSURE, BUT I DON'T THINK THE PEOPLE ON A NORMAL BASIS REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND I THINK A COMMITTEE LIKE THIS WOULD BE FAR MORE FOCUSED.

SO I WOULD INCLUDE THE AUDIT AND, UM, I WOULD ALSO INCLUDE THAT FIRST LOOK OF DIRECTION BEFORE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, UM, THE QUARTERLY AND THE, UH, THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET AND ALL THAT, NOT NECESSARILY MAKING DECISIONS.

AND, AND I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU AFTER, AFTER THINKING ABOUT THAT.

UH, BUT I SHOULD BE, I, I WOULD THINK THIS, THIS COMMITTEE WOULD BE FAR MORE COMPREHENSIVE.

UM, WE, WHETHER IT'S CADENCE OR NOT, I'M, I'M A LITTLE MORE AGGRESSIVE IN THIS.

I THINK WE'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, AND

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WE, WE, WE NEED TO MOVE BEYOND OUR, OUR SAFETY NET HERE IN A MATTER OF SPEAKING, THAT'S THE WRONG TERM, BUT WE NEED TO, TO PUSH, PUSH IT A BIT, UH, BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE A, A, A TALENTED GROUP OF KNOWLEDGEABLE PEOPLE ON THIS, UM, COUNCIL AND WHOEVER IS IN THAT, I, I THINK THE MAJORITY OF US CAN HANDLE THAT.

SO I WOULD BE IN FAVOR, QUITE FRANKLY, OF THE MAJORITY OF WHAT STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED ON THIS.

ANY MORE COMMENTS FROM YOU, JOHN? OH, UM, SO I, UH, YEAH, I DON'T, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

ACTUALLY, AS A MATTER OF FACT, SOME OF THAT'S ALREADY IN HERE.

OH.

UH, WHAT, UH, WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS I'M TRYING TO MODERNIZE WHAT THIS COMMITTEE IS ALL ABOUT, GOING INTO 2026, RIGHT? IT'S NICE THAT WE ESTABLISHED IN 2025, IT WAS GREAT TO HAVE AN INITIAL VISION, INITIAL VISION, BUT WE NEEDED TO EVOLVE GOING INTO 2026.

THEREFORE, THE FRAMEWORK I PUT TOGETHER IS THE ATTEMPT TO CREATE THAT DIALOGUE SO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT NOT ONLY STAFF RECOMMENDATION, BUT 18 OTHER THINGS THAT I FOUND TOO, THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER.

AND IF WE IXNAY THEM, SURE, THAT THAT'S FINE, BUT LET'S HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

'CAUSE RIGHT NOW, AND MAYBE I'M, BECAUSE I'M THE NEWEST FRESHMAN TO THE COUNCIL, I DIDN'T HAVE THE PRECEDENCE OF THAT CONVERSATION BEFORE.

SO MY, HI, MY CONTEXTUAL OR MY HISTORY IN CONTEXT IS ZERO.

WHICH MEANS IF WE CAN LAY THAT DOWN NOW, HAVE IT DOCUMENTED, SAY, WE'RE NOT GONNA REVIEW THIS BECAUSE IT'S UNNECESSARY, GREAT.

THEN IT'S OFF THE LIST.

BUT LET'S, LET'S MAINTAIN A LEVEL OF REVIEW OF THE FRAMEWORK TO ALLOW US TO HAVE THE CONFIDENCE GOING IN 2026 THAT WE PROVIDE THE RIGHT OVERSIGHT.

BECAUSE I THINK THE INVESTMENT IN PUTTING THIS IN THERE IS THE INVESTMENT IN GOVERNANCE.

AND THAT IS WHAT WE ARE DUE TO OUR RESIDENTS, RIGHT? AND WITHOUT IT, UH, THEN WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE AT, WE'RE AT A FAIL.

THANK YOU.

UH, THANK YOU.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS HERE.

FIRST, I DO APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORT TO PUT THIS TOGETHER.

UH, THAT'S VERY COMPREHENSIVE.

I THINK YOU COULD SELL GOOD PRICE FOR THIS AS YOUR CONSULTING WORK.

AND I REALLY APPRECIATE, UM, VICE MAYOR TO DO COMPREHENSIVE RESEARCH INTO OTHER CITIES.

HOW, HOW THEY WERE DOING THIS.

AND I HEARD ALL THE COMMENTS.

SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANT TO UM, MENTION HERE.

FIRST, OUR CITY STAFF IS DOING GREAT JOB.

AND OUR CITY HAS, UM, HUGE SUR PLUS POSITION AND OUR RESERVES IS, IS, UH, THREE TIMES OF OUR EXPENSES.

AND WE HEARD THAT LIKE, UH, PEOPLE ARE PROUD, WE ARE PROUD OF WHO WE ARE, HOW FINANCIALLY, UM, STABLE, CONSERVATIVE, SUCCESSFULLY WE ARE DOING.

SO THAT'S A TRACK RECORD.

OUR STAFF HAS BEEN, UM, PROVEN.

AND ALSO, THAT'S ONE THING I WANT TO MENTION.

SECOND THING IS FOR OUR CITY COUNCIL OR MAYOR.

SO WE WERE ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE FOR POLICY MAKING AND ALSO FOR THE, FOR THE VISION SET OF VISION FOR THE CITY.

WE WERE NOT ELECTED TO DO OUR, YOU KNOW, LIKE A PROFESSIONAL WORK.

I KNOW WE ARE ALL SMART PEOPLE HERE, AND WE ALL HAVE A, UM, VERY, YOU KNOW, SOPHISTICATED, UH, EDUCATION AND, UH, FINANCIAL, UM, THE BACKGROUND.

WE PROBABLY COULD DO GOOD JOB IF WE, IF IT'S OUR PROFESSIONAL JOB, WE SPEND DAYS AND NIGHTS, YOU KNOW, LIKE JUST DOING THIS FOR 20 YEARS.

WE PROBABLY ARE QUALIFIED TO DOING GREAT WORK, BUT WE WERE NOT ELECTED BY PEOPLE TO DO THIS KIND OF A PROFESSIONAL WORK USING OUR EDUCATION AND PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE.

SO I, I JUST SAY WE, WE STAY ON THE POLICY AND STAY ON THE, THE BIG VISION SET UP STRATEGIES FOR OUR SUCCESS FOR THE FUTURE.

WE STAY ON THIS LEVEL.

AND, AND ALSO WE WANT TO ALSO MAKE SURE OUR STAFF HAVE A, THEIR TIME TO DO THEIR WORK, UM, WITHOUT HAVE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE, UH, PREPARE REPORTS, PREPARE MEETINGS, PREPARE.

UM, THIS, THIS, THIS TAKES A LOT OF TIME.

AND LITERALLY, I, I THINK I HAD A, A SET A CONVERSATION WITH CITY MANAGER.

IF WE WANT TO GO INTO A LOT OF DETAILS, WE PROBABLY HAVE TO HAVE MORE STUFF.

AND WE PROBABLY HAVE TO GET YOU KIND OF LIKE A MEET WEEKLY ON THIS PROJECT OR THE SUBCOMMITTEE OR, OR BIWEEKLY IN ORDER TO GO INTO A LOT OF DETAILS.

THAT'S HOW I FEEL.

BUT I THINK WE, WE DON'T HAVE TO BECAUSE WE HAVE A PROVEN RECORD AND WE HAVE PROFESSIONAL STAFF EXPERIENCE THE PEOPLE HERE.

AND SO GO TO THE DETAILS, LIKE A, A COUPLE OF THINGS RECOMMENDED HERE.

I HEARD YOU TALK ABOUT YOU FEEL, UM, COMFORTABLE WITH THE LEVEL INVESTMENT POLICY PLUS THE AUDIT BECAUSE WE DO AUDIT, UM, AD HOC COMMITTEE, AND I'VE BEEN THERE.

I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO PUT THEM TOGETHER.

AS YOU ALSO AGREED.

AND THAT'S WHAT I HEARD FROM YOU.

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I ALSO HEARD FROM YOU, YOU FEEL LIKE A BUDGET SHOULDN'T GO INTO SUBCOMMITTEE BECAUSE ALL FOOD, UH, TWO PEOPLE CANNOT REPRESENT WHOLE PEOPLE LIKE A WHOLE GROUP.

AND I AGREE WITH THAT.

I THINK BUDGET IS VERY IMPORTANT.

THAT'S A, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO WANT TO, EACH OF US SIT AT THE SAME TABLE AND VOICE COMMENTS, AND THEN THERE ARE, UM, PRELIMINARY AND THEN THERE'S A FINAL.

SO WE DO GET A CHANCE TO, TO GIVE OUR COMMENTS AND THEN BRING THEM BACK AND DO ANOTHER TIME.

SO I, I, I FEEL IT'S A GOOD PRACTICE IF WE DON'T PUT A FINANCE, UH, UH, THE BUDGET INTO THIS FUTURE WORK.

AND IF WE LOOK AT THE, THE RECOMMENDATION FORM STUFF, AND I'LL, I'LL RECOMMEND ALSO TAKE THIS FINANCE POLICY REVIEW OUT.

IS THAT A, OH, SORRY, IT'S NOT FINANCIAL.

IT IS THE BUDGET REVIEWS OUT.

TAKE THE SECOND ITEM OUT.

, UH, THE BUDGET REVIEW OUT AND FOR BOND INSURANCE, WE HAVEN'T REALLY TALKED ABOUT THIS.

SO WHAT'S, WHAT'S YOUR OPINION OF TAKING, KEEPING BOND REVIEW OR KEEPING ABSOLUTELY.

THAT'S PART OF, THAT'S, THAT'S IMPORTANT FINANCE ANSWER AND WE'RE FINE WITH THAT.

I'M FINE WITH THAT.

RECOMMEND KEEPING THE BOND ISSUANCE REVIEW IN THIS FINANCE COMMITTEE.

THE OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

UM, UH, I, I INITIALLY HAD A HESITATION ABOUT THAT, TO BE HONEST, ONLY BECAUSE, UM, CFDS HAVE BEEN QUITE CONTROVERSIAL HERE.

UM, AND WE DON'T, LIKE, I DON'T WANNA, I DON'T WANNA SEND SOMETHING TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE PERSONALLY THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T AGREE ON, ON A POLICY LEVEL.

UM, BUT I THINK THAT IN CLOSER READING OF THIS, THIS WOULD GO TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE AFTER AN AGREEMENT HAD BEEN MADE THAT THERE WOULD BE A CFD.

OKAY? AND THIS WOULD BE ABOUT ISSUING THE BONDS MAKES SENSE TO, UM, TO SUPPORT THE CFD ONCE THAT HAS BEEN MADE.

SO IF, IF THE, THE COUNCIL HAD AGREED AS A, BY CONSENSUS, WHETHER THAT WAS UNANIMOUS OR THREE, TWO OR WHATEVER, THAT THERE WOULD BE A CFD, THEN BONDS WOULD BE ISSUED TO SUPPORT THAT CFD.

AND THAT'S AT THE POINT WHERE THE FIC WOULD STEP IN.

UM, CERTAINLY NOT, IT CERTAINLY WOULDN'T GO TO THE FINANCE SUBCOMMITTEE TO DECIDE IF THERE WAS GOING TO BE A CFD SOMEPLACE, BECAUSE THAT WOULD NEED TO BE A DISCUSSION ON A POLICY LEVEL WITH THE WHOLE COUNCIL, I THINK PROJECT AND THAT, IN THAT BROADER SENSE, YES, I THINK, YES.

MY, MY POINT WOULDN'T WASN'T THAT THE F THAT THE COMMITTEE SHOULD BE DIS SHOULD BE RECOMMENDING WHETHER WE DO USE A BOND AT ANY TIME, THAT SHOULD BE A COUNCIL DECISION, BECAUSE THAT'S A, A HIGHER LEVEL POLICY DECISION.

BUT THIS WOULD BE THE TYPE OF BONDS AND HOW WE'RE DOING IT AND HOW MANY ISSUANCES AND WHEN DOES IT GET ISSUED, AND, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THOSE KINDS OF, UM, DISCUSSIONS.

THAT'S GOOD.

A CITY MANAGER, WELL, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, MCCARSTEN MADE MY POINT.

UM, AND I WAS GONNA SAY, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF BOND ISSUANCE IS OUR ENERGY EFFICIENCY BOND.

MM-HMM .

AND SO, UM, IT WOULD BE NICE TO BE ABLE TO DELVE INTO DETAILS LIKE, UH, WHAT THE INTEREST RATE IS AT THE TIME, THE TIMING OF THE BOND SALE.

I MEAN, THAT'S VERY TECHNICAL COMPLICATED STUFF THAT THE COMMITTEE COULD DEAL WITH TO MAKE A MOTION.

I DON'T THINK WE ARE MAKING A MOTION.

I WOULD, I WOULD JUST ADVOCATE, JUST GOING BACK TO THE BUDGET REVIEW THING, I, I, I THINK THE WAY IT'S WORDED IN THE STAFF REPORT IS THAT WE REVIEW THE MID-YEAR BUDGET AND PRELIMINARY BUDGET BEFORE IT GOES TO COUNCIL.

IT'S NOT, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RECOMMENDATIONS IN TERMS OF HOW WE'RE ALLOCATING FUNDS OR WHAT PROJECTS ARE FUNDED OR UNFUNDED, ET CETERA.

WELL, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ALL TOGETHER OF US AN UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT'S WHAT THE COMMITTEE DOES WITH BUDGET, IF THAT'S, IF WE'RE KEEPING THE BUDGET IN THERE, BECAUSE I'VE HEARD, I'VE HEARD ONE MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE, UM, I'M NOT TRYING TO PICK ON YOU, MIKE, YOU KNOW, I LOVE YOU, BUT YOU'VE BEEN SAYING THAT YOU FEEL LIKE THE, THE INVESTMENT COMMITTEE SHOULD BE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT THE BUDGET TO THE REST OF COUNCIL STAFF.

I DIDN'T SAY THE BUDGET, BUT RECOMMENDATIONS OF WHATEVER THOSE MATTERS ARE, WE NEED TO DEFINE WHAT THOSE MATTERS ARE.

BUT IN SOME CASES, UM, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, UM, GETTING INTO THE INVESTMENTS, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE INTERACTING WITH THE, THE CITY MAN OR THE, UM, THE STAFF AND THE INVESTMENT MANAGER, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN, WE CAN MAKE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEY'RE SIMPLY RECOMMENDATIONS.

RIGHT.

AND I, I AGREE WITH THAT ON THINGS LIKE, TO USE THE EXAMPLE OF THE THING WE HAVE ALREADY DONE THAT WAY.

YEAH.

WAS THE INVESTMENT POLICY THAT YOU GUYS DELVED INTO THE DETAILS AND YOU MADE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS? I I DO FEEL THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT AND THE BUDGET.

SURE.

WHICH IS THE PURVIEW OF COUNCIL.

THAT IS ONE OF THE MAIN FUNCTIONS OF COUNCIL.

AND SO I DON'T FEEL IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR TWO MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL TO BE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS TO EITHER STAFF OR TO THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE ON THE BUDGET.

AND I'M GLAD WE'RE VET THIS OUT BECAUSE WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE THROWING MORE IN THE POT AND WE'RE MAKING AN ASSUMPTION THAT IT'S ALL GONNA BE TREATED THE SAME.

AND, AND I AGREE WITH THAT, THAT, UM, APPROACH.

I AGREE.

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SO ARE WE JUST FY SO FOR MY CLARIFICATION, ARE WE GOOD WITH THE WAY IT'S WORDED AND, UH, THE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING TO US? THAT WAS MY, THAT'S A CLARIFICATION QUESTION.

YEAH.

I HAVE THE SAME QUESTION.

DO YOU HAVE THE SAME UNDERSTANDING? I'M VERY CLEAR ON WHAT THE COMMITTEE COULD CONTRIBUTE RELATED TO THE BUDGET.

UH, AND I'VE HEARD YOUR COMMENTS AND I THINK WE CAN HANDLE THAT AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL.

OKAY.

SO WE'RE READY TO MAKE A MOTION.

I THINK THIS IS JUST .

DO WE NEED A MOTION OR DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE DIRECTION? I FEEL LIKE I HAVE DIRECTION.

I I JUST WANNA CLARIFY ONE THING.

UM, THE AUDIT SUBCOMMITTEE FOR THIS YEAR IS ALREADY SET.

UH, THE MEETING IS SET.

SO I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE WOULD BEGIN FOLDING THAT INTO THE, UH, FINANCE AND INVESTMENT COMMITTEE FOR 2026.

MM-HMM .

2 26.

MM-HMM .

OKAY.

AND WE WILL MAKE APPOINTMENT, OR WE ADJUST OUR COMMITTEE.

WE DO THAT AFTER THE ELECTION APPOINTMENT.

EVERY, YEAH, EVERY YEAR.

WE'LL, EVERY OTHER YEAR.

NOT EVERY OTHER YEAR.

EVERY MONTH.

YEAH.

OKAY.

MM-HMM.

WE ARE GOOD FOR THIS ITEM.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

GOING

[9. CITY MANAGER AND CITY COUNCIL REPORTS ]

TO AGENDA ITEM NINE, CITY MANAGER AND CITY COUNCIL REPORTS, THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

UH, THIS FRIDAY IS THE FINAL NIGHT MARKET AT ST.

PAT'S ROAD.

IT'S SUPPOSED TO HAVE THE LARGEST SELECTION OF FOOD AND RETAIL VENDORS.

IT'S BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL THIS YEAR, SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN, UM, CLOSE OUT THE YEAR WITH A, A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE.

ALSO, KEEP AN EYE OUT FOR OUR SMALL BUSINESS SEASON SPOTLIGHT SERIES ON INSTAGRAM AND FACEBOOK.

FROM NOW UNTIL THE END OF THE YEAR, WE'LL BE SHOWCASING OUR AMAZING BUSINESSES IN TOWN AND SHARING SOME OF THOSE STORIES.

AND LASTLY, I JUST WANT TO SPEAK TO THE PICKLEBALL COMMUNITY AND, UH, ASSURE THEM THAT WE HEAR YOU.

UM, ONE OF THE ACTIONS WE'RE TAKING IS WE ARE OVERLAYING FOUR MORE COURTS OUT AT WALLACE RANCH.

SO I KNOW WE STILL HAVE WORK TO DO WITH CONTROLLING SOME OF THE BEHAVIOR OUT THERE, UH, BUT WE'VE HEARD YOU AND, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT PROVIDING MORE, MORE COURTS TO PLAY ON OUT THERE IF WE HAVEN'T DONE SO ALREADY.

UH, PROBABLY THE WORK'S NOT DONE YET, BUT, UH, WE'VE STARTED.

THANK YOU.

UM, COUNCIL, COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, JEAN JOIE ASKED HER TO START FIRST.

OKAY.

YEAH.

I HAVE A PLANE TO CATCH IT.

5 55 IN THE MORNING TO GO TO NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES.

I KNOW A LOT OF US ARE GOING, UM, GOING FIRST THING IN THE MORNING.

UM, UH, I, IT'S BEEN A SUPER BUSY WEEK.

WE'VE HAD, UM, OR TWO WEEKS.

UH, THE, UM, STARTUP TRI-VALLEY AI AT SCALE EVENT WAS REALLY GOOD.

UM, I KNOW SOME OF YOU WERE THERE.

UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT ANY OF THE ELSE WAS ABLE TO MAKE IT, BUT THAT WAS A REALLY GOOD EVENT IN THE AI SERIES.

UM, WE HAVE SO MANY AI COMPANIES IN THE TRI-VALLEY.

I'M SO GLAD STARTUP TRI-VALLEY IS CONTINUING TO DO THOSE.

UM, WE HAD A, A DUBLIN USD AND CITY OF DUBLIN LIAISON COMMITTEE, UM, THAT WAS VERY PRODUCTIVE.

TALKED ABOUT SAFETY AT OUR SCHOOL SITES, TALKED ABOUT, UM, ALL KINDS OF THINGS, UH, DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING ON HERE, THEIR PROGRESS ON SCHOOLS.

UM, UH, SO THAT WAS A VERY PRODUCTIVE MEETING.

THERE WAS THE, UH, TRI-VALLEY NONPROFIT ALLIANCE POWER OF GIVING EVENT, UM, THAT SEVERAL OF US WERE AT ANOTHER REALLY GREAT EVENT.

AND I WANNA JUST P PLUG, UM, TNPA, BECAUSE, UM, IF YOU WERE LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO, UM, DONATE , THEY ARE HELPING WITH ALL OF THE, UM, NONPROFITS IN THE TRI-VALLEY THAT ARE, UM, HURTING A LITTLE BIT, ESPECIALLY AT THIS TIME OF YEAR.

UM, WE HAD THE VETERANS DAY BREAKFAST THAT WAS SPONSORED BY THE CITY OF DUBLIN AND ROTARY, WHICH WAS, UM, A GREAT EVENT AND A LITTLE BIT CHALLENGING THIS YEAR, GIVEN THAT IT WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SHUTDOWN.

AND OUR CAMP PARKS PARTNERS WERE, UM, AT A LITTLE BIT OF A DISADVANTAGE.

WE HAD A COUPLE OF, UM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, UH, VIRTUAL.

WE HAD ONE VIRTUAL, UH, VISITATION AND ONE LIVE VISITATION.

SO WE TALKED WITH CAPROCK PARTNERS.

UM, THEY MANAGED THE, UM, SIERRA COURT, UM, BUSINESS PROPERTIES.

THAT WAS A GREAT CONVERSATION.

AND THEN LAST WEEK WE WERE OVER AT KAISER, SO WE APPRECIATED HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO SEE THEM.

AND I THINK, UM, THE MAYOR WILL HAVE SOME MORE TO SAY ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR VISIT WHEN SHE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY, UM, TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

UM, I HAVE TWO, UM, ASKS TONIGHT.

ONE, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THE REST OF YOU ARE AWARE, WE HAVE A, UM, A YOUNG GENTLEMAN FROM DUBLIN.

HIS NAME IS DIAN AGARWAL.

UH, HE IS, UM, UP FOR THE, HE IS A ONE OF THREE FINALISTS IN THE WORLD THAT ARE UP FOR THE CHILDREN'S PEACE PRIZE.

HE IS, UM, IT'S RUN BY KIDS RIGHTS.

THIS IS THE PRIZE THAT, UM, GRETA THUNBERG WON IN, UM, 2019, THAT, UM, MALALA YU, UH, YUSUF PSCI WON IN 2013.

UM, OVER 200 PEOPLE WERE NOMINATED.

AND, UM, HE IS THE ONLY FINALIST FROM THE UNITED STATES.

AND, UH, THE AWARD IS TOMORROW IN SWEDEN, I BELIEVE.

SWEDEN.

AND, UM, SO FIRST OF ALL, OH NO, SORRY.

UH, YES, IT'S IN STOCKHOLM.

I'M SORRY.

UM, FIRST OF ALL, WE WANNA WISH HIM THE BEST OF LUCK, AND, UM, WE WILL BE WATCHING TO HOPE THAT HE WINS THAT.

BUT I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO ASK, UM, THAT WE, UM, GIVE HIM A, UH, PROCLAMATION FROM THE CITY OF DUBLIN.

UM, THAT

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WILL HOPEFULLY BE A PROCLAMATION ON HIS AWARD.

AND IF NOT, IT WILL BE A PROCLAMATION ON HIS, UM, FANTASTIC SHOWING AND BEING ONE OF THREE, UH, FINALISTS.

SO I'M SEEING LOTS OF HEAD NODS, SO THERE'S THAT.

UM, AND THEN THE LAST THING I WANNA TALK ABOUT IS THE, UM, PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WE HEARD TONIGHT FROM, UM, SO MANY OF OUR COMMUNITY.

UM, I APPRECIATE THE CITY COUNCIL.

UM, THE ACTION THAT WE'VE TAKEN AS A CITY SO FAR, UM, FROM OUR STAFF WRITING LETTERS TO BUREAU OF PRISONS, WRITING LETTERS TO, UM, TO OUR, UH, THE HOMELAND SECURITY.

I KNOW THAT WE HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH, UM, OUR, UH, LEGISLATIVE STAFF.

UM, CERTAINLY AT LEAST THREE CONGRESSMEN'S OFFICES.

UM, WE'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH OUR SENATOR'S OFFICES.

UM, WE HAVE MADE OUR POSITION KNOWN AS A CITY.

WE HAVE INTENTIONALLY NOT GONE A LOT BEYOND THAT BECAUSE WE DID NOT WANT TO INVITE ICE IN KNOWING THIS REGIME, UM, HAS HAD A HABIT OF TARGETING AND REVENGE.

BUT I THINK WE ARE AT THE POINT NOW, UM, WHERE IT'S TIME TO GO FURTHER.

AND I, I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, ASK FOR HEAD NODS TO BRING BACK A RESOLUTION, UM, THAT I'M SURE STAFF WILL WORK WITH US TOWARD.

UM, MAKING IT VERY CLEAR THAT WE LIVE OUR VALUES.

I HEARD A LOT OF THINGS THAT I'D LIKE TO QUOTE TONIGHT.

UM, I DON'T THINK I'LL DO THAT IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, BUT, UM, WE DO HAVE A MISSION STATEMENT.

WE DO HAVE A VISION STATEMENT.

WE DO HAVE VALUES.

UM, WE HAVE A VERY DIVERSE COMMUNITY.

WE HAVE AN IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY.

UM, AND I THINK A RESOLUTION IS APPROPRIATE, SO I'M LOOKING FOR HEAD NODS TO SUPPORT BRINGING ONE BACK TONIGHT.

I SEE ONE HEAD NOD.

I HAVE QUESTIONS.

, LET ME, CAN DISCUSS IT.

OKAY.

THEN WE CAN EITHER SUPPORT BRINGING AN ITEM BACK THAT WE CAN SUPPORT, BRINGING AN ITEM BACK TO DISCUSS A YES.

DOING A RESOLUTION, OR WE CAN, MY, MY ASK IS TO BRING A RESOLUTION BACK FOR US TO DISCUSS, AND I'M SEEING TWO OTHER HEAD NODS BESIDES MINE.

YEAH.

OKAY.

THAT'S MY ASK FOR TONIGHT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

COUNCIL MEMBER MARADA, YOU WANT TO START? I CAN, BUT ACTUALLY, IF I LET COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARSTEN GO, A LOT OF THINGS THAT HE AND I WILL ADD TOGETHER, HE'LL PROBABLY COVER.

YEAH.

OKAY.

THEN I'LL GO, GO.

UH, OKAY.

ALMOST, UH, THEN, UH, I'LL, UH, I'LL REITERATE THE, UH, ROTARY VETERANS DAY BREAKFAST WAS AMAZING WITH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER JOSIE, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, VICE MAYOR CADRY AND COUNCILMAN HORTEN.

UH, REALLY LOVELY TO SEE OUR SERVICE MEMBERS THERE.

UH, WONDERFUL BREAKFAST, UH, ALSO IN ATTENDANCE WITH, UH, , WITH VICE MAYOR CADRY AND WITH COUNCILMAN MCCARSTEN WAS A VETERANS DAY PARADE IN PLEASANTON.

UM, I GOT TO HANG OUT ON A VERY COOL JEEP, UH, AND WAVE TO WAVE TO, UH, TO EVERYBODY IN, IN ATTENDANCE.

AND THE, UH, FINANCE COMMITTEE SUBCOMMITTEE FOR AVA COMMUNITY ENERGY ALSO MET, NOTHING NEEDED TO REPORT.

THEY'RE STILL GOING THROUGH THE AUDIT, SO STILL, UH, AWAITING THE RESULTS OF THAT AUDIT.

AND THEN, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MCC COURSE.

AND I HAD THE HONOR OF ATTENDING THE BACKBONE BENEATH THE RAILS, UM, CULTURAL, UM, WHAT WE CALL IT, CULTURAL EXPOSE, OR IT WAS SORT OF AN ART EX EXPOSITION.

AND WE WERE ABLE TO LEARN ABOUT THE HISTORY OF, UM, OF FOLKS WHO HELPED BUILD THE RAILROAD, CONNECT OUR CONTINENT TOGETHER, UM, FROM BOTH ENDS.

AND, UH, JUST TO GET TO MEET THEM AND, UH, SEE THE WORK THAT THEY, THE ARTWORK THAT THEY DID TO REPRESENT THE HERITAGE OF THOSE WHO HELPED BUILD THE TRANSCONTINENTAL RAILROAD.

THAT'S IT.

FORGOT ALL THAT STUFF.

, UH, UH, SERIOUSLY, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE ROTARY VETERANS DAY BREAKFAST, TERRIFIC.

AND WE'VE ALL TALKED ABOUT IT, AND, UH, I WAS REALLY GLAD THAT WE HAD SOME FOLKS THERE.

UNFORTUNATELY, THEY COULDN'T PARTICIPATE.

UH, BUT, UH, THOSE PEOPLE ARE PART OF OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL, AND THEY, THEY MAKE IT A VERY MUCH WHAT IT SHOULD BE AND, UH, TO ALL THOSE VETERANS WHO WHO'VE HELPED US.

AND THEN OF COURSE, THE, THE PARADE, UH, WHICH IS, IS A, A, A BEAUTIFUL, UM, UH, ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF THE SERVICES OF, OF, UH, THE VETERANS.

AND, UH, THIS AS, AS YOU KNOW, UH, AND I WANNA POINT THIS OUT, UH, NOT GO IN TOO MUCH DETAIL, BUT, UH, THIS YEAR WE HAD A RESIDENT OF DUBLIN, UH, DRIVE THE THREE OF US AROUND.

AND, UH, THE, THE LEMONS.

AND, UH, I WANNA BRING UP THAT, UM, UH, UH, MRS. LEMON, UH, WASN'T FEELING WELL, WE'LL SAY, AND SHE COULDN'T MAKE IT, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, THE, UH, MR. LEMON WE'LL SAY, UM, WENT AHEAD AND HE TOOK THE INITIATIVE TO DRIVE US AROUND.

UH, SO HE, YOU KNOW, HE SPENT TIME WITH US BECAUSE HE KNEW HOW IMPORTANT THIS WAS.

SO I WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE THE LEMON FAMILY

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ON THIS, AND FOR THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS AND THE LONG-TERM RESIDENTS OF DUBLIN.

UM, AND THEN, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, IMPORTANT STUFF.

I HAD A COUPLE OF HAKA MEETINGS, THE REGULAR MEETING, AND A BUDGET MEETING.

I GOT BUDGETS ON THE MINE THESE DAYS.

BUT, UM, UH, THAT, AND THEN O OF COURSE, THE BACKBONE BENEATH THE RAILS, VERY EDUCATIONAL.

I, I WENT THERE BECAUSE I AM INTERESTED IN HISTORY, UH, AND, UH, WE HAVE A DEDICATED, UH, GROUP, UH, WITHIN OUR DIVERSE CITY, UH, THAT CONTRIBUTED AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT TO, TO THE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT OF OUR COUNTRY.

AND I WANTED TO LEARN MORE.

AND, UH, THE COUNCILMEN MEMBER AND MYSELF, WE, UM, WE HAD A GOOD TIME THERE.

SO, ANYWAY, THAT'S IT FOR ME.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER, VICE MAYOR.

THANK YOU.

UM, SO JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK THE 36 SPEAKERS THAT CAME IN THIS, UH, EVENING TAKING TIME OUT OF THEIR BUSY SCHEDULES, THE 44 34 IN PERSON TWO ONLINE.

UM, YOU KNOW, AS A, AS A SON OF IMMIGRANTS, THAT WAS PARTICULARLY ME MOVING AND MEANINGFUL TO ME.

UM, IN TERMS OF MY ACTIVITIES, UH, ACHMAN, THE MOSQUITO ABATEMENT DISTRICT MEETING, UH, THE VETERANS PARADE AND BREAKFAST, WHICH WERE BOTH GREAT EVENTS, UH, AS WELL AS AN APAPA EVENT.

UM, THANK YOU FOR THE PICKLEBALL.

UH, MY, UH, YEAH, MY MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO TWIST MY ANKLE, I GUESS.

, UH, AND ALSO HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO HOST, UM, GIRL SCOUTS, JUNIORS TROOP 3 1 4, 2 5, AND GIVE THEM A LITTLE TOUR OF CITY HALL.

AND THEY HAD SOME REALLY FASCINATING, VERY INTRIGUING QUESTIONS.

UM, BUT, UH, A LOT OF FUN.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

SO, UM, LET ME SEE WHAT I HAVE HERE.

SO WE WENT TO STARTUP TRI AI, UM, CONFERENCE.

WE WERE REALLY PROUD.

WE HAVE A GOOD CROWD THERE, PROFESSIONAL AND VERY, UM, THOUGHTFUL QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS THERE.

AND WE ARE PROUD, WE ARE PART OF THIS, UH, UM, LEADER IN THIS SPACE.

AND THEN I WENT TO A GRAND OPENING, IT'S A JACK LONDON KITCHEN.

THEY HAVE A GRAND OPENING.

IT, IT WAS A VERY BEAUTIFUL PLUMBING FIXTURES, LIKE HIGH END.

AND IF YOU NEED TO, UM, RENOVATE YOUR BATHROOM, THAT'S A GOOD PLACE TO SEE THE, UH, FIXTURES OVER THERE.

AND THEN WE HAVE THIS, UM, DOUBLING OUR CITY WITH DSUD, UM, LIAISON MEETINGS.

YEAH, JI AND ME, WE WERE IN THAT MEETING.

AND THEN IN THE EVENING I WENT TO TRIBAL NON-PROFIT ALLIANCE.

UH, THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE A VERY GOOD, GOOD, UM, WHAT YOU SAY, VERY GOOD EVENT IN, UM, IN LIVERMORE VAN HYDE THEATER.

AND WE HAVE A VISITATION, WE HAVE TWO VISITATION DURING THAT TIME AS A, AS A COUNCIL MEMBER JOIE JUST MENTIONED.

AND LET ME SEE MORE THINGS.

ONE MORE LCO MEETING.

ONE MORE LCO MEETING.

THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD FOR ME.

AND THEN WE CAN ADJOURN THE MEETING AT 10 21.