* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. 3, 2, 1. [00:00:04] GOOD EVENING AND HAPPY NEW YEAR TO [1. CALL TO ORDER AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ] EVERYONE. TODAY IS TUESDAY, JANUARY 13TH, 2026, AND WE JUST CAME OUT OF THE CLOSE THE SESSION. THERE'S NO REPORTABLE ACTION AND WE'LL START OUR REGULAR MEETING AT 7 0 9 AND WE'LL CAUSE A MEETING TO ORDER AND HAVE A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO BE THE REPUBLIC, WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. AGENDA. ITEM TWO, REPORT ON CLOSE THE SESSION. WE ALREADY REPORTED NO, UM, ACTION ITEMS. SO MAYORS, UH, LET ME SEE. COUNCIL MEMBER MORADA IS PARTICIPATING REMOTELY VIA CHINA CONFERENCE PURSUANT TO GOVERNMENT CODE 5 4 9 5 3 B. HIS MEETING LOCATION WAS POSTED ON THE AGENDA AND THE AGENDA WAS POSTED AS A ATTEND CONFERENCE LOCATION 72 HOURS BEFORE THE MEETING. ALL VOTES DURING THE ATTENDING CONFERENCE SESSION WILL BE CONDUCTED BY ROLL CALL VOTE. SO AGENDA ITEM THREE PRESENTATIONS, [3.1 Recognition of the Altamont Cruisers Car Club for Their Donation to Dublin Police Services ] AND THE PROCLAMATIONS 3.1, RECOGNITION OF THE ALTAMONT CRUISERS CAR CLUB FOR THEIR DONATION TO DOUBLING POLICE SERVICE SERVICES. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR COUNCIL. UM, VIC FOX, CHIEF OF POLICE. IT'S MY HONOR TO INTRODUCE, UH, ONCE AGAIN FROM LAST YEAR KEN REICHMAN AND RETIRED DUBLIN POLICE SERVICES SERGEANT STEVE IASIS OF THE ALTAMONT CRUISERS CAR CLUB. THE ALTAMONT CRUISERS HAVE BEEN LONG DEDICATED SUPPORTERS OF YOUTH PROGRAMS THROUGHOUT THE TRI-VALLEY AND THROUGH THEIR GENEROUS FUNDRAISING EFFORTS, THEY'VE CONTRIBUTED MORE THAN $1 MILLION TO LOCAL CHARITIES AND YOUTH FOCUSED INITIATIVES. THIS YEAR, THE ALTAMONT CRUISERS HAVE ONCE AGAIN DEMONSTRATED THEIR COMMITMENT TO OUR COMMUNITY BY DONATING $3,500 TO THE CRIME PREVENTION UNIT. THIS CONTRIBUTION WILL HELP FUND ESSENTIAL OPERATING SUPPLIES FOR THE MANY COMMUNITY EVENTS THAT WE SUPPORT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. SO PLEASE JOIN ME IN WELCOMING KEN, STEVE, AND THE ALTAMONT CRUISERS CAR CLUB FOR THEIR GENEROSITY, COMMITMENT TO SERVICE AND ONGOING SUPPORT OF THE DELWOOD COMMUNITY. YEAH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE FRONT, YES, PLEASE SHARE A FEW WORDS FRONT AND CENTER. UH, I'M KEN. UH, THANK YOU FOR INVITING US. I LOOK FORWARD TO THIS EVERY YEAR AS I KNOW STEVE DOES ALSO. UM, IT'S JUST OUR, UH, GRATITUDE TO BE ABLE TO HELP THE COMMUNITY AND ALL THE WORK AND EFFORTS THAT YOU GUYS DO. SO THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH. AND I HOPE YOU COME OUT AND SEE OUR CAR SHOW AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER. IT'S THE LAST SUNDAY IN SEPTEMBER, AND WE HAVE OVER 800 CARS, CLASSIC CARS, SO VERY COOL. WOW. THANK YOU. YOU HAVE TO INVITE US, . YES, WE WILL. WE WILL MAKE A REMINDER ON IT FOR SURE. YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR CONTRIBUTION, AND I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THIS RECOGNITION TO BOTH OF YOU. DO YOU WANT TO COME OVER AND WE'LL TAKE PHOTO WITH YOU? THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH. WE GIVE TO YEAH. THANK YOU. THANK, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. VERY, VERY ONCE AGAIN. THANK YOU. DOES THAT HAVE TO BE CLASSICS? NO. NO. OKAY. THANK. LET'S TAKE THE CHURCH. SHOULD WE INVITE THE, UM, CHIEF COME OVER TOO. CHIEF, YOU WANT TO COME OVER . THERE YOU GO. LET ME, LET ME THANK YOU. OH, THIS UNIQUE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AGENDA ITEM 3.2 2025 [3.2 2025 Sponsor Recognition ] SPONSOR RECOGNITION. GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE MAYOR DIS UH, DISTINGUISHED COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY. UM, FIRST OFF, HAPPY NEW YEAR. UH, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THE CITY OF DUBLIN'S 2025 SPONSOR RECOGNITION. MY NAME IS IVAN SAN PEDRO, RECREATION SUPERVISOR FOR THE CITY OF DUBLIN'S PARKS AND COMMUNITY [00:05:01] SERVICES DEPARTMENT. AND TONIGHT WE ARE PROUD TO RECOGNIZE THE BUSINESSES AND ORGANIZATIONS WHOSE GENEROUS SUPPORT HELPED MAKE OUR PROGRAMS, EVENTS, AND SERVICES POSSIBLE THROUGHOUT 2025. ALL RIGHT, IN 2025, THE CITY OF DUBLIN RECEIVED $100,980 IN CASH SPONSORSHIPS AND 18,700 AND IN IN-KIND SPONSORSHIPS. THESE CONTRIBUTIONS PLAY A VITAL ROLE IN OFFSETTING THE COSTS OF PRODUCING COMMUNITY EVENTS AND SUPPORTING CITY PROGRAMS, FACILITIES AND SERVICES. ON THE FOLLOWING SLIDES, WE WILL HIGHLIGHT SEVERAL KEY EVENTS AND PROGRAMS FROM 2025 AND SHOWCASE THE MEANINGFUL IMPACT OF OUR SPONSORS. FIRST UP, UH, ST. PATRICK'S DAY, UM, CELEBRATION, OUR ANNUAL ST. PATRICK'S DAY CELEBRATION, ONCE AGAIN, BROUGHT THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER FOR A LIVELY AND FESTIVE EVENT WITH THE SUPPORT OF OUR SPONSORS. ATTENDEES ENJOYED FAMILY FRIENDLY ACTIVITIES, ENTERTAINMENT AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THROUGHOUT THE DAY, MAKING THIS ONE OF, UH, DUBLIN'S SIGNATURE CELEBRATIONS OF THE YEAR, UH, THE SPRING EXTRAVAGANZA WELCOMED FAMILIES TO A FUN-FILLED DAY FEATURING EGG HUNTS, CRAFTS, INFLATABLES, AND PHOTO OPPORTUNITIES. SPONSORS HELP CREATE A SAFE AND JOYFUL ENVIRONMENT WHERE CHILDREN AND FAMILIES COULD CELEBRATE THIS. UH, THE SEASON TOGETHER, UH, THE FARMER'S MARKET AND SUMMER CONCERT SERIES CONTINUE TO THRIVE IN 2025 LOCAL VENDORS LIVE MUSIC AND SPONSOR ACTIVATIONS CREATED VIBRANT WEEKLY GATHERINGS THAT SUPPORTED SMALL BUSINESSES WHILE OFFERING RESIDENTS A PLACE TO CONNECT AND ENJOY DUBLIN'S PARK, ESPECIALLY IN EMERALD GLEN PARK. PICNIC FLICK SPONSORED PLAYED A KEY ROLE IN ENHANCING PICNIC LICKS, OUR OUTDOOR MOVIE SERIES. FAMILIES ENJOYED PREMO ACTIVITIES, GAMES, AND GIVEAWAYS, HOSTED BY SPONSORS HELPING TO CREATE A MEMORABLE SUMMER EVENING IN OUR COMMUNITY. SPLATTER ONCE AGAIN, CAPPED OFF THE SUMMER WITH A HIGH ENERGY FESTIVAL FEATURING LIVE MUSIC, INTERACTIVE ACTIVITIES, FOOD VENDORS AND CREATIVE EXPERIENCES FOR ALL AGES. SPONSOR SUPPORTED HELP ELEVATE THIS EVENT INTO A TRUE COMMUNITY CELEBRATION. AT HAR, UH, UH, SORRY. AT HARVEST FAIR AND GHOST OF DUBLIN, FAMILIES ENJOYED FALL THEMED ACTIVITIES, HISTORICAL ELEMENTS, AND SEASONAL FUN. SPONSOR PARTICIPATION HELPED BRING THESE TRADITIONAL EVENTS TO LIFE. WHILE CELEBRATING DUBLIN'S HERITAGE. JUST LAST MONTH, THE HOLIDAY TREE LIGHTING AND BREAKFAST WITH SANTA, WE RANG IN THE HOLIDAY SEASON WITH THE ANNUAL TREE LIGHTING AND BREAKFAST WITH SANTA. THESE BELOVED EVENTS WERE MADE EVEN MORE SPECIAL THROUGH SPONSOR INVOLVEMENT, CREATING WARM AND MEMORABLE EXPERIENCES FOR FAMILIES DURING THE HOLIDAYS. AND LASTLY, THE SENIOR CENTER. THROUGHOUT THIS, UH, 2025, SPONSORS ALSO SUPPORTED SENIOR CENTER EVENTS INCLUDING RESOURCE FAIRS, SPECIALTY PROGRAMS THAT PROMOTE WELLNESS, CONNECTION, AND ENRICHMENT FOR DUBLIN'S OLDER ADULT COMMUNITY. SO WITH THAT SAID, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF DUBLIN, WE EXTEND OUR SINCERE GRATITUDE TO ALL OF THE BUSINESSES AND ORGANIZATIONS THAT SUPPORTED OUR COMMUNITY THROUGHOUT 2025. YOUR PARTNERSHIP PLAYS A CRITICAL ROLE IN HELPING US DELIVER HIGH QUALITY PROGRAMS AND EVENTS THAT ENHANCE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR OUR RESIDENTS. UM, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT AND PARTNERSHIP, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU ALL IN 2026. NOW, AT THIS TIME, WE WOULD LIKE TO INVITE ALL THE SPONSORS IN ATTENDANCE TODAY, UH, TO JOIN THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR A GROUP PHOTO. YEAH, PLEASE COME OVER IF YOU ARE THE SPONSORS IN THE LIST, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU AND ALSO HAVE A PHOTO WITH YOU. WE ALREADY PRESENT YOUR CERTIFICATES BEFORE THE MEETING. EVERYONE TOGETHER? YES. YES, YES, YES, YES. OH, WE'LL ARRANGE BEHIND ME. SO FOR, AGAIN, FOLLOWING, BEING HERE, SUPPORTING THE CITY [00:10:08] AGENDA ITEM 3.3, [3.3 Recognition of the 2025 “Deck the Homes” Holiday Home Decorating Contest Winners ] RECOGNITION OF THE 2025 TAX, THE HOME HOLIDAY, HOME DECORATING CONTEST WINNERS. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I'M JENNIFER LAMAREY, RECREATION TECHNICIAN WITH THE PARKS AND COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT. TONIGHT WE ARE PLEASED TO RECOGNIZE THE RESIDENTS WHO HELPED SPREAD HOLIDAY CHEER THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY THROUGH THE 2025 DECK. THE HOMES HOLIDAY HOME DECORATING CONTEST DECK. THE HOMES IS AN ANNUAL HOLIDAY HOME DECORATING CONTEST THAT ENCOURAGES CREATIVITY, NEIGHBORHOOD PRIDE, AND COMMUNITY CONNECTION. THIS YEAR'S CONTEST WILL ONCE AGAIN SHOWCASE THE ENTHUSIASM AND TALENTS OF DUBLIN RESIDENTS, COMMISSIONERS FROM THE PARKS AND COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMISSION AND THE PUBLIC SERVED AS JUDGES. WINNERS WERE SELECTED AT THE DECEMBER 15TH, 2025. PARKS AND COMMUNITY SERVICES MEETING AND AWARD WINNERS RECEIVED A YARD SIGN. THEY'LL RECEIVE A CERTIFICATE OF RECOGNITION TONIGHT AND A GIFT CARD FROM LOCAL BUSINESSES. THIS YEAR IN 2025, WE HAD 15 HOMES PARTICIPATING FROM NEIGHBORHOODS ACROSS THE CITY. HOMES WERE EVALUATED ACROSS MULTIPLE CATEGORIES, RECOGNIZED FOR CREATIVITY, PRESENTATION, AND OVERALL HOLIDAY SPIRIT. THIS MAP HIGHLIGHTS THE LOCATION OF PARTICIPATING HOMES. RESIDENTS WERE ABLE TO EXPLORE DECORATED NEIGHBORHOODS THROUGHOUT DUBLIN, HELPING FOSTER A SHARED COMMUNITY EXPERIENCE DURING THIS HOLIDAY SEASON. AT THIS TIME, WE WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THE AWARD RECIPIENTS. AS EACH WINNER IS ANNOUNCED, WE INVITE THEM TO COME FORWARD TO RECEIVE THEIR CERTIFICATE AND BE RECOGNIZED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. FIRST, WE HAVE THE GLIMCHER FAMILY AT 7 9 5 1 PEPPERTREE ROAD. THE PEOPLE'S CHOICE AWARD IS SELECTED BY COMMUNITY VOTES AND REFLECTS DISPLAY THAT REST THAT RESONATES MOST WITH RESIDENTS. NEXT, WE HAVE THE GRON PRE FAMILY AT 8 6 4 5 ARDMORE PLACE. THIS AWARD RECOGNIZED THE BEST USE OF MUSIC, MOVEMENT AND TECHNOLOGY. THERE'S A FEW THAT ARE NOT HERE THIS EVENING THAT FOR SURE I KNOW ARE NOT HERE, SO, SO DO WE. DO WE WANT TO BRING THEM ON? JUST THE ONE BY ONE, THE TWO THAT I JUST CALLED ARE NOT HERE THIS EVENING. UM, SO I'LL MOVE FORWARD. NEXT ONE. THE ONES THAT I KNOW THAT ARE THANK YOU. SORRY ABOUT THAT. UM, NEXT WE HAVE WINTER WONDERLAND AWARD WITH THE HARRIS, I'M SORRY, SPOTLIGHT AWARD WITH THE HARRIS FAMILY AT 7 9 6 4 GUNSHOT COURT. THE SPOTLIGHT AWARD IS OUR JUDGE'S CHOICE AWARD, AND AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO INVITE THE HARRIS FAMILY UP. SO, CONGRATULATIONS. YOU CAN BRING YOUR WHOLE FAMILY HERE. OH, GOOD JOB. OKAY. YOU KIND OF LIKE THAT NEW STYLE. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE THE OVERINFLATED AWARD WITH THE MCCORMICK FAMILY AT 6 8 1 5 ION WAY. THIS AWARD CELEBRATES THE BEST USE OF INFLATABLES. I DON'T BELIEVE THEY'RE HERE THIS EVENING. UH, WE HAVE THE DECK, THE HALLS AWARD WITH, WHICH IS THE ROSS FAMILY AT 1 0 8 6 8. GLEN GLEN, GARY LINK, EXCUSE ME, THE DECK. THE HALLS AWARD RECOGNIZES THE BEST CONDO APARTMENT DISPLAY. I DON'T BELIEVE THEY'RE HERE AS WELL. RIGHT HERE. OH, OH, THEY'RE WELCOME FOR NEXT YEAR. SORRY ABOUT THAT. TEAMS. VERY FUN. VERY COOL. IT'LL BE BIGGER NEXT YEAR. YEAH, WE GOT THIS NEW THING GOING. THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE THE DASHING DEBUT AWARD, WHICH IS THE EAT FAMILY AT 7 9 8 4 CRANFORD LANE. THIS AWARD HIGHLIGHTS A FIRST YEAR CONTEST ENTRY IS THE EAT FAMILY HERE. AND LAST WE HAVE THE GOAT AWARD. THIS GOAT AWARD WAS THE GREATEST OF, OF ALL TIME RECOGNIZED AS OUTSTANDING DISPLAY AND EXCELLENCE IN CRE, CREATIVITY SCALE AND HOLIDAY SPIRIT. AND WE HAVE THE BETO FAMILY, AND THEY ARE HERE THIS EVENING. [00:15:14] YOU GOT TWO. SO HOW LONG DID IT TAKE YOU TO TAKE ALL THAT DOWN? THREE . YES. THANK YOU. ON BEHALF OF THE CITY, THANK YOU TO ALL OF OUR PARTICIPANTS FOR HELPING MAKE DUBLIN BRIGHTER DURING THIS HOLIDAY SEASON. WE APPRECIATE YOUR CREATIVITY, COMMUNITY SPIRIT, AND WILLINGNESS TO SHARE YOUR HOMES WITH RESIDENTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. THIS CONCLUDES MY DECK, THE HOMES PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NOW WE ARE, [4. PUBLIC COMMENT ] WE ARE ON AGENDA ITEM FOUR, PUBLIC COMMENT. AT THIS TIME, THE PUBLIC IS PERMITTED TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON NON GENDERIZED ITEMS. PLEASE STEP TO THE PODIUM AND CLEARLY STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. HAVE ANY? YES, MAYOR. I HAVE TWO SPEAKERS HERE IN THE CHAMBER, AND THE FIRST SPEAKER IS MIKE GRANT. GOOD EVENING, MIKE GRANT, LONGTIME RESIDENT DUBLIN, OWNER OF GUNS UNLIMITED. DECEMBER 16TH. I CAME HERE. YOU GUYS DID A, UH, RESOLUTION CONDEMNING OR BASICALLY NOT OPENING UP THE PRISON. AND, UH, THIS DID NOTHING BUT STIR UP AND CAUSE VIOLENCE. AS WE'VE SEEN THIS IN LA, PORTLAND AND MINNEAPOLIS, THE CITY COUNCIL IN MINNEAPOLIS. AND THE MAYOR, MAYOR STIRRED THE POT. AND THIS CAUSED A LADY TO GET SHOT FOR DOING SOMETHING STUPID, TRYING TO RUN OVER AN ICE OFFICER. THEN SHORTLY AFTER THAT, TWO ILLEGALS, I SAID, ILLEGALS RAMMED INTO AN ICE VEHICLE IN PORTLAND. BOTH OF THEM WERE ALSO SHOT. THIS COUNCIL HAS PUT THIS SAME SIGNAL OUT TO THE PROTESTORS, SAID IT'S OKAY TO DISRUPT POLICE AND OPERATIONS, AND THAT'S ICE OPERATIONS. AND WE EVEN HAD A SPEAKER CALLING FOR BLOCKING ICE AT THE LAST MEETING. MY SUGGESTION FOR EACH OF YOU IS TO IMMEDIATELY PUT OUT A STATEMENT TO THE PROTESTORS IN DUBLIN WHO COME AND STAND ON OUR STREETS TO AVOID INTERFERING WITH ICE OPERATIONS IF THEY COME TO TOWN. ALSO TOLD YOU THAT THE ICE DOESN'T NEED THAT FEDERAL PRISON AT ALL. THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE A MILITARY BASE CALLED CAMP PARKS RIGHT OVER THERE. THE N-C-N-C-O ACADEMY WILL, WILL, WILL BE CLOSING IN APRIL. AND THIS FREES UP LOTS OF SPACE FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT. NICE TO LIVE ON THE BASE AND BASE OUT OF THAT PLACE. NOW WHY WOULD I BRING THIS UP? WELL, WITH THE HATERS FOLLOWING FEDERAL AGENCY OFFICERS AROUND FROM MOTELS, THEY WILL BE LOOKING AT THIS VERY SOON. THAT WAS TOLD TO ME LAST NIGHT BY A FEW GUYS THAT I KNOW IN THE AGENCY. SO YOU SHOULD PROBABLY THINK ABOUT THE WORDS THAT YOU WILL NEED TO SAY, TELLING PEOPLE TO STAND DOWN AND NOT INTERFERE WITH ICE OPERATIONS. I'M SURE YOU WOULD AGREE THAT WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER ICE AGENT ATTACK ATTACKED, OR HE NEEDS TO DEFEND HIMSELF AND SHOOT SOMEBODY IN DUBLIN. LAST, THE ILLEGALS THAT WAS IN BLOOMINGTON, MINNESOTA FOR 25 YEARS WAS JUST PICKED UP THE OTHER DAY, JANUARY THE SIXTH, THEY FINALLY TOLD HIS FAMILY WHERE HE WENT TO TEXAS, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO TO ANYBODY THEY FIND AROUND HERE. THEY'RE NOT KEEPING 'EM AROUND HERE, THEY'RE GONNA SEND 'EM DOWN SOUTH SOMEPLACE SO THEY CAN BE CLOSER TO THE BORDER AND THEY CAN RUN 'EM ACROSS AND GET RID OF 'EM. SO I COME BACK TO YOU AGAIN AND I TELL YOU, STAY OUTTA NATIONAL POLITICS GENE AND FOLLOW WHAT WE SAID. SEVEN PEOPLE SPOKE OR SENT YOU GUYS INFORMATION ON THIS STUFF. SEVEN PEOPLE FROM DOUBLE AND OUTTA 72,000, AND YOU REACTED WITH THE EMAILS. I KNOW YOU RUN YOUR EYEBROWS. THE EMAILS THAT CAME OUT, I SEEN THEM. THERE WAS NO REASON FOR YOU GUYS TO GET INVOLVED IN THIS, BUT YOU GUYS ARE ON THE SPOTLIGHT NOW. SECOND LETTER WENT TO PRESIDENT TRUMP AND CHRISTIE, SO HOPEFULLY THEY'LL BE OUT HERE. HAVE FUN [00:20:02] MAYOR. THE NEXT SPEAKER IS ANGELA TUCKER. UH, GOOD EVENING AND HAPPY NUN YEAR, UH, HONORABLE MAYOR AND, UH, CITY COUNCIL. I WANTED TO OFFER JUST SOME VERY, VERY BRIEF COMMENTS ON, UH, THE TRAFFIC SAFETY ISSUE RELATING TO, UH, NOT DISSIMILAR TOPIC TO THE INDIVISIBLE PROTESTS IN FRONT OF THE SAFE, UH, SAFEWAY ONE, I, UH, UH, I DRIVE BY THERE REGULARLY AND, UH, JUST LAST SATURDAY, I DROVE BY THERE AGAIN AND IT IS GETTING A LITTLE BIT MORE CHAOTIC. AND I PERSONALLY, OF COURSE, UH, DO NOT TAKE ANY ISSUE WITH PEOPLE PROTESTING. AND WHILE I DO NOT FOLLOW THE RATIONALE OF PRES, UH, UH, PROTESTING PRESIDENT TRUMP IN OUR CITY IN CALIFORNIA, THAT IS BESIDE THE POINT. I TAKE NO ISSUE WITH THAT, BUT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT, UH, THE TRAFFIC SAFETY. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE CROSSING, UH, ALL THE TIME AND THEY'RE VERY CLOSE, UH, TO THE ROADWAY IN PARTICULAR. I DRIVE, UH, MAY SURPRISE YOU, BUT I DRIVE A VERY LARGE TRUCK. AND LITERALLY PEOPLE WITH THE PLACARDS, THEY'RE LIKE INCHES AWAY FROM, UH, FROM THE TRUCK WHEN YOU ARE IN THE RIGHT HAND LANE. AND I'M WORRIED THAT IF SOMEBODY SLIPS, UH, GOES, UH, UNDER THE WHEELS, WHAT HAPPENS THEN? RIGHT? WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS TO LIABILITY? WHAT HAPPENS? UH, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE IN A LIVELY WAY WAVING AROUND THE PLACARDS. AGAIN, THAT'S THEIR RIGHT. I TAKE NO ISSUE WITH THAT. UH, BUT WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY HIT MY TRUCK? WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS IF, UH, IF THEY, UM, WAVE THE PLACARDS AND GET INJURED WHEN THEY ACCIDENTALLY HIT THE TRUCK AND, UH, UH, AND, AND THEY INJURE THEIR WRIST? RIGHT? UH, THE SCENARIOS, UM, DON'T REALLY BEAR THINKING ABOUT, AND I WOULD JUST ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER THE TRAFFIC SAFETY AGAIN, IN THAT PARTICULAR CORNER. PERHAPS YOU CAN TAKE SOME MEASURES SUCH, UH, SUCH, SUCH AS BARRIERS AND, UH, JUST SORT OF ATTEMPT TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, UH, ORDER INTO THAT WHOLE SITUATION AND NOT QUITE SO MUCH TRAFFIC. UH, NOT QUITE SO MUCH CHAOS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. I, I HAVE NO MORE SPEAKERS SLIPS, MAYOR. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, SO MOVING ON. WE ARE [5. CONSENT CALENDAR ] ON AGENDA ITEM FIVE, CONSENT CALENDAR. SO CONSENT, UH, CALENDAR ITEMS ARE TYPICALLY NON-CONTROVERSIAL IN NATURE AND ARE CONSIDERED FOR APPROVAL BY THE CITY COUNCIL WITH ONE SINGLE VOTE. UH, WE WANT TO ASK COUNCIL MEMBERS IF YOU HAVE A COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON ANY CON CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS. UH, MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO, UM, PULL ITEM, I THINK IT'S FIVE POINT, UM, FOUR JUST FOR, UM, A COUPLE OF, UH, UH, COMMENTS. OKAY. UH, MAYOR, I'D LIKE 5.7, PLEASE PULL FOR COMMENTS AS WELL. 5.7 FOR COMMENTS. WILL YOU AND OH, AND MAYOR, I HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON 5.2 AND 5.7. 5.2 AND 5.7. 5.7. OKAY. SO WE HAVE TO, UM, LIKE, UH, DO RAW COST ANYWAY. UM, SO MAKE A MOTION AND WE'LL DO ROLL COST. HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR MOTION THE CONSENT CALENDAR OUTSIDE OF ITEMS 5.2, 5.4, AND 5.7. SO LET'S DO A ROLL CALL. WAS THERE? YEAH. OH, I'LL DO A SECOND. OKAY. SORRY, WE GOT A SECOND BY JEAN. RIGHT BY BY MICHAEL. SECOND BY MICHAEL. AND THEN LET'S DO A ROLL CALL. COUNCIL MEMBER MARADA AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER CADRY AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER CORSTEN. AYE. VICE MAYOR. JOSIE MAYOR WHO? YES. NATIONAL MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. YEAH. THANK YOU. SO LET'S GO TO 5.2 [5.2 Annual Proclamation] FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. OH, PUBLIC COMMENT FOR 5.2 IS ANGELA TUCKER. HELLO AGAIN. UM, I DID NOT EXPECT TO BE HERE QUITE SO SOON. AGAIN. SO, ANGELA, ANGELA TUCKER AGAIN. UH, I AM A RESIDENT OF DUBLIN. I AM ACTUALLY REQUESTING THAT TWO ITEMS BE REMOVED FROM THE JANUARY CONSENT PROCLAMATIONS, SPECIFICALLY THE PROCLAMATIONS ON RAMADAN IN FEBRUARY AND DIWALI IN NOVEMBER. FAILING THAT [00:25:01] I WOULD REQUEST THAT FUTURE PROCLAMATIONS ON SIGNIFICANT QUESTION AND JEWISH HOLIDAYS BE APPROVED ONCE SUBMITTED. RAMADAN AND DIWALI ARE BOTH RELIGIOUS OBSERVANCES. PLEASE BE REMINDED THAT THERE ARE CURRENTLY NO PROCLAMATION FOR OTHER RELIGIONS OBSERVANCES INCLUDED IN THE LIST OF PROCLAMATIONS. FOR WHATEVER REASON, A CITY COUNCIL SHOULD REFRAIN FROM PROMOTING ONLY PARTICULAR RELIGIONS I BEAR, NO ILL WILL TO, UH, TOWARDS ANYONE PER THE FIRST AMENDMENT. I SUPPORT EVERY AMERICAN'S RIGHT TO PRACTICE WHATEVER RELIGION THEY CHOOSE OR NONE. NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE FREEDOM OF RELIGION, WE ALSO HAVE FREEDOM FROM RELIGION. I EXPECT THAT THE INTENTION BEHIND THE PROCLAMATIONS FOR RAMADAN AND DIWALI IS DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION RELATED BE BE THAT AS IT MAY, PLEASE CONSIDER THAT PROMOTING ONLY ONE OR LIMITED RELIGIOUS, UH, UH, GROUPS DOES NOT MAKE FOR CONCLUSION IT COULD BE CONSIDERED SOMEWHAT DIVISIVE AND EXCLUSIONARY. ADDITIONALLY, PROCLAIMING ISLAMIC AND HINDU HOLIDAYS EXCLUSIVELY DOES NOT REFLECT THE RELIGIOUS DIVERSITY OF OUR CITY. DUBLIN HAS A VIBRANT CATHOLIC AND NON NON-DENOMINATIONAL CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY, AND WE HAVE JEWISH RESIDENTS TOO THAT IS NOT AT ALL REFLECTED IN THE CURRENT PROCLAMATIONS. AGAIN, FOR WHATEVER REASONS. IN SUMMARY, I PRIMARILY REQUEST THAT YOU REMOVE FROM MADAN AND DIWALI FROM THE CITY PROCLAMATIONS AT THIS TIME AND PROPOSE THAT YOU GENERALLY REFRAIN FROM SELECTIVE RELIGIOUS PROMOTION. HOWEVER, SHOULD YOU DECIDE AFTER DELIBERATIONS THAT YOU WANT TO KEEP THE PROCLAMATIONS ON RAMADAN AND DIWALI, I SIMPLY ASK THAT YOU ARE EVEN HANDED AND AGREE IN FUTURE TO ADDING PROCLAMATIONS ON SIGNIFICANT CHRISTIAN AND JEWISH HOLIDAYS SUCH AS LAND EASTER, CHRISTMAS, YOM KIPPUR, AND HANUKKAH. ANYTHING LESS COULD PROBABLY BE CONSTRUED AS DISCRIMINATORY AGAINST CHRISTIANS AND JEWISH PEOPLE. I TRUST THAT THE MAYOR AND THIS CITY COUNCIL WOULD NOT INTENTIONALLY EVER BE DISCRIMINATING AGAINST SIGNIFICANT PORTIONS OF THIS COMMUNITY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR ATTENTION AND CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. SO 5.2 AND THEN MOVE TO 5.4. [5.4 City Council Participation in the 2026 St. Patrick’s Day Parade] CITY COUNCIL PARTICIPATION IN THE 2026 ST. PATRICK DAY. YOU HAVE A COMMENT TO MAKE, RIGHT? UM, YEAH, I I JUST WANTED TO ADD, UM, UH, ONE COMMENT THAT, UM, THIS YEAR, ST. PATRICK'S DAY, UM, FALLS, THE ST'S DAY PARADE AND FESTIV FALL IN CONJUNCTION WITH NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES, UM, CONGRESSIONAL CITY CONFERENCE. AND THERE, UM, SEVERAL OF US THAT MAY END UP GOING TO THAT. I KNOW SEVERAL OF US ARE ON POLICY COMMITTEES FOR THAT. UM, AND SO YES, FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE, UM, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, BUT ALSO WONDERING IF, UM, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THAT THERE IS AN APPETITE TO MOVE. UM, THE, UH, COUNCIL MEETING THAT IS ON THE 17TH TO THE FOLLOWING WEEK. THERE ARE FIVE TUESDAYS IN THE MONTHS OF MARCH. AND SO I'M WONDERING IF I GET HEAD NODS THAT, UM, SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ARE IMMEDIATELY FLYING OUT, UM, AS PART OF THE CELEBRATION. YOU KNOW, SOME OF US WOULDN'T BE READING PACKETS AND ALL OF THAT AT THE SAME TIME. JOHN IS LOOKING AT ME FUNNY. AM I OUTTA LINE? NO. GOOD. OKAY. UM, WOULD THERE BE, UH, HEAD NODS TO MOVE OUR, UM, MARCH 17TH MEETING TO THE FOLLOWING TUESDAY? UM, ANYBODY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT? I'D BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT. SUPPORTIVE OF THAT? YEAH. YEAH. OH, THERE'S PLAN COMMISSION MEETING THAT NIGHT. IS THAT A PROBLEM? WELL, YEAH, THE DIOCESE IS A PROBLEM FOR SURE. UH, HOW ABOUT THEIR REGULAR MEETING NIGHT? BUT OFTEN THEY GET CANCELED SO WE, WE WE, THEY CAN PROBABLY PLAN AROUND IT, RIGHT? JOHN? I, YEAH. OR THEY COULD MOVE. OKAY. YOU GUYS TAKE PRIORITY . UM, I'M SEEING, I'M APPRECIATE THAT, JOHN. YEAH. UM, SO I GUESS MY ASK IS TO HAVE STAFF LOOK INTO IT AND SEE IF THAT'S DOABLE FOR US. BE FANTASTIC. OKAY. YEAH. THANK YOU. UM, SO MOVING ON TO 5.7. SORRY, UH, JUST QUICK COMMENT. UH, I, FOR 5.4, I, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WALK IN THE PARADE. I WAS HOPING WE COULD JUST, UH, I'M ASSUMING WALKING AS A GROUP, JUST THE FIVE OF US AS A COUNCIL, WE DO HAVE A, UM, THERE IS A BIG WINNER WHO HAS TO WORK WITH, WITH THE MAYOR. THERE'S WHAT THERE, THERE WE HAD THE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION HAD A EVENT. SO THEY BID OUT WALKING WITH THE MAYOR IN ST. PATRICK DAY AS ONE OF THE AWARD. SO THERE'S A, THERE'S A, A WINNER [00:30:01] . WHEN DID WE AGREE ON THAT? IT'S, UH, IT HAPPENED JUST A LONG TIME AGO. UH, YEAH. I, I, YOU KNOW, THAT MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE CAN, UH, SO PRIMARILY IT IS THE CITY COUNCIL. THERE SHOULD BE NO OTHER GROUPS, UM, MAYOR, UM, WE CAN, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT INDIVIDUAL OFFLINE. OKAY. YEAH. IT'S PRIMARILY THE CITY COUNCIL PRIMARILY, OR EXCLUSIVELY, SORRY. IT'S NEVER BEEN EXCLUSIVELY THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD GROUPS SORT OF TAG ALONG. UM, IT WAS OUR PLAN, OUR STAFF PLAN TO CONTROL THAT THIS YEAR. ANYWAY, UM, I I'M, I'M OPENING THAT UP TO YOU TO DECIDE WHETHER IT'S GOING TO BE EXCLUSIVE, UH, HERE AND NOW. AND THEN THE MAYOR AND I CAN DISCUSS SO OTHER WAYS FOR THAT INDIVIDUAL TO PARTICIPATE. YEAH. THIS IS A, A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION. THEY WERE FUNDRAISING AND THEN THEY BID OUT AND THEY, THEY ACTUALLY, IT IT'S, IT'S A CEO OF STANFORD WHO WON THAT BID. THAT THAT IS THE THING WE KIND OF ALREADY PROMISED. WE WHO, WHO, HOW DID THIS ALL REMIND YEAH. AND THE CITY, I ALSO SAY THIS WAY. HOW DID, HOW DID THIS COME ABOUT? SO THIS JUST THE NONPROFIT ASK ABOUT THIS SPECIFICALLY AND I GRADE AND I SAY I GRADE. OH, SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S AN OFFLINE CONVERSATION. BUT YEAH, IT COULD BE LIMITED TO THE FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS. AND, AND THEN YOU CAN DISCUSS THAT PARTICULAR ACCOUNT. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO, SO, BUT I AM NOT SURE. SO SHE, IS THAT A, ARE YOU MAKING A MOTION OR AMENDMENT? ARE WE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING HERE? 5.4. I THINK THE, UH, STAFF WAS SEEKING DIRECTION ON, UH, YOUR METHOD OF PARTICIPATION, WHICH IS WALKING, UH, AND NOW WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO MAKE IT EXCLUSIVELY, UH, THE CITY COUNCIL. THAT'S WHAT I HEAR. OKAY. AND LOOK INTO MOVING THE COUNCIL MEETING DIRECTLY FOLLOWING ST. PATRICK'S DAY. WHY, WHY IS COUNCIL MEETINGS RELATED TO THIS, UH, PATRICK DAY? BECAUSE THE, UM, ACTIVITIES OF ST. PATRICK'S DAY SORT OF STOMP ON AGENDA REVIEW AND ALL OF THAT AND TRAVELING TO NLC. IT'S A WEEK BEFORE. NO, IT'S, IT'S IN CONJUNCTION. THE, UM, PARADE IS ON THE 14TH, THE COUNT, THE PACKET, ALL OF THAT IS IN THE, THE LEAD UP TO THAT MEETING. AND SOME OF US WILL BE FLYING OUT MAYBE DIRECTLY FROM THE PARADE TO GO TO NLC. I SEE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. WHERE, WHERE DO AGREE ON THAT ONE, RIGHT? YEAH. OKAY. 5.7 [5.7 Dublin Fallon 580 Statement of Overriding Considerations ] DOUBLING FANON. FIVE 80 STATEMENT OF OVERRIDING CONSIDERATIONS. YES. AND THANK YOU MAYOR, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER JOHN RADHA ATTENDING REMOTELY. UH, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR STAFF IF, UH, THEY'D BE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER THOSE FOR ME. YES, SIR. OKAY. UH, I BY THE WAY, I'M SORRY, WHO AM I SPEAKING WITH? YOU HAVE, UH, AMY MILLION COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR STEPPING UP TO THE LECTERN. GREAT, THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, AMY. EVENING. UH, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK, UH, UH, ABOUT THE OR RUNNING STATEMENT, UM, AS IT IS AT THE MOMENT, UH, WHAT HAPPENS WITH IT ONCE WE'RE DONE WITH IT THIS EVENING? WHERE DOES IT GO? UH, FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE? IT GOES INTO THE, TO THE PROJECT FILE. JOHN, IS THERE A LEGAL PLACE IT NEEDS TO GO? UH, NO. IT DOESN'T GET FILED ANYWHERE O OTHER THAN THE PLANNING FILES. IT'S A DECISION, IT'S A STATEMENT THAT'S MADE WHEN A DECISION IS MADE AND, UM, THEY, YOU KNOW, JUST PART OF THE CITY'S RECORDS AT THAT POINT. THANK YOU. I WASN'T SURE IF IT NEEDED TO GO BACK TO THE COURT OR ANYTHING. I APPRECIATE IT. WELL, TECHNICALLY WE WILL BE REPORTING BACK TO THE COURT ON OUR COMPLIANCE WITH THE WRIT. SO THERE WE WILL BE, IF, IF, IF THE COUNCIL DOES ADOPT THE STATEMENT OF OVERRIDING CONSIDERATIONS TONIGHT, WE WILL INDICATE TO THE COURT THAT WE HAVE ADOPT THAT THE COUNCIL DID READOPT THE STATEMENT OF OVERRIDING CONSIDERATIONS. OKAY. UH, THANK YOU, JOHN, FOR THAT, FOR THE AFFIRMATION. UH, THEREFORE, I, I'M GONNA TAKE THIS, THESE, THESE QUESTIONS QUITE SERIOUSLY SINCE THEY ARE IN COMPLIANCE TO AN ACTION REQUESTED BY THE COURT. UH, SO AMY, I'M GOING TO STEP INTO ONE PROCEDURAL QUESTION AND, AND ACTUALLY, I'M SORRY, MAYBE THIS WILL GO TO JOHN. UH, SO, UH, HOLD, HOLD, HOLD, HOLD TIGHT. AMY , IF YOU DON'T MIND. SO, UH, UM, CITY ATTORNEY, UH, BARKER THE STATEMENT, UM, AS IT STANDS, UH, OR, OR THE PROCESS AROUND, AROUND THE STATEMENT, WE DON'T HAVE THE LITIGANT APPEALING ANYTHING AT THIS POINT. CORRECT. AND, AND I'M, I, I UNDERSTAND [00:35:01] THIS MIGHT BE A, A POINT OF, UH, CONFIDENTIALITY, SO PLEASE TELL ME IF, IF I'M OVERSTEPPING. NO, UH, I, I DON'T HAVE ANY AWARENESS OF WHETHER THE APPLICANT OR I'M SORRY, THE, THE, THE, THE A THE LITIG AGAINST PLAN TO APPEAL OR NOT. UM, THE, UM, WHAT WE HAVE IS A COURT DECISION AND, UH, WHAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU IS, UH, STAFF'S PROPOSAL TO COMPLY WITH THE COURT DECISION AND REPORT BACK TO THE COURT. UM, I, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION ABOUT THE OTHER SIDE, THE OTHER, THE LITIGANT'S PERSPECTIVE ON THIS. I'M ASSUMING THAT, THAT THEY WOULD, UH, AGREE WITH US COMPLYING WITH THE COURT ORDER. OKAY, VERY GOOD. THEN, UM, AS A MATTER OF COURSE, AND JUST BECAUSE I'M ASKING THIS QUESTION IN PUBLIC, IT'S, IT'S A PROCEDURAL POINT THAT WE ARE OPERATING IN COMPLIANCE TO THE COURT ORDER. UH, VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. UM, THEN THANK YOU, UH, JOHN. I APPRECIATE IT. I'LL, I'LL JUMP OVER BACK TO, TO AMY. UH, SO AMY, I'M GONNA GO OVER SOME OF THE BENEFITS THAT WERE NOTED, WHICH I THINK, BY THE WAY, VERY WELL WRITTEN, VERY WELL ARTICULATED. I I REALLY LIKE HOW WE, WE'VE PINPOINTED, UM, SOME KEY WINS FOR THE CITY. UM, SO LET ME, LET ME ASK THE, FOR THE FIRST BENEFIT THAT WE HAVE, WHICH IS THE BUILD OF 238 UNITS, UM, REALLY QUICKLY, UH, THESE 238 UNITS, THEY'RE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES OR THEY, THEY TOWN HOMES. WHAT'S THE, LIKE, POTENTIAL AVERAGE, UM, UH, UH, HABITABILITY OR, OR HOW MANY, HOW MANY FAMILY MEMBERS WOULD LIVE IN THIS, IN THESE 230 UNITS? UH, WELL, I THINK THE MUL TECHNICALLY THE MULTIPLIER IN THE GENERAL PLAN, WHICH IS WE AVERAGE, I THINK IT'S 2.7 PEOPLE PER UNIT. UH, SO I WOULD LIKE TO PRETEND I'M ON MATH WHIZ, BUT I'M NOT. SO 2.7 TIMES 238 WOULD BE TECH, THE TECHNICAL NUMBER OUT OF THE GENERAL PLAN. UM, YOU KNOW, WE ANTICIPATE THEM TO BE, WHETHER YOU CALL THEM ATTACHED SINGLE FAMILY OR TOWN HOMES, IT'S THAT, UH, TYPICAL MULTI-FAMILY SORT OF ROW TOWN PRODUCT THAT YOU SEE IN, IN EASTERN DUBLIN. THANK YOU, AMY. I DID THE MATH REALLY QUICK. UM, GREAT. SO I GUESS THE BENEFIT OF BEING REMOTE IS I COULD HAVE A CALCULATOR MM-HMM . UH, 642.6, UM, POSSIBLE EXTRA LIVES WE COULD BE HELPING WITH 230 UNITS. SO, UH, GOOD BENEFIT THERE. UH, THE NEXT BENEFIT I'D LIKE TO ASK ABOUT, UH, BECAUSE WE ARE IN FACT GONNA BE PRESENTING THIS TO THE COURT, WHICH IS ON OUR RENA GOAL. SO COULD YOU TELL ME, UM, OF OUR TOTAL RENA TARGET OR THE NUMBER THAT WE WERE GIVEN BY THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, WHAT PERCENTAGE DOES 238 EQUATE TO, OR WHAT DOES IT FULFILL IN TERMS OF OUR ARENA ACHIEVEMENT? I, I'M GONNA BE HONEST, I DON'T REMEMBER THE NUMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. I THINK IT WAS, YEAH, I MEAN, IT WAS, I WANNA SAY IT WAS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THREE AND FOUR, I BELIEVE. SO IT'S, UH, LESS, IT'S SOMEWHERE BETWEEN FIVE AND 10% WOULD BE MY GUESS. UH, THAT, YEAH, THAT WOULD BE MY GUESS, BASED ON MY MEMORY OF WHAT THE ACTUAL NUMBERS WERE. OKAY. SO MATERIAL, IT SOUNDS TO ME. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UM, AND, UH, LET, LET ME BE THE OPPOSING OPINION AT THE MOMENT, WHICH IS FOR FIVE TO 10% POTENTIAL ACHIEVEMENT AGAINST ARENA TARGET. IF THIS DID NOT GET PASSED TONIGHT, WHAT IS THE IMPLICATION OF THAT TOWARDS OUR FUTURE ACHIEVEMENT OF ARENA TARGET? SO, NOT PASSING THIS TONIGHT, IN MY OPINION, DOESN'T HAVE ANY, UH, SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE TO THAT RENA CONTRIBUTION. JOHN, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS OF NOT PASSING THIS TONIGHT? UH, WELL, UM, THERE'S A COURT ORDER THAT'S INSTRUCTED US TO ADOPT THIS STATEMENT OF OVERRIDING CONSIDERATIONS. IF WE DON'T DO IT, IT COULD POTENTIALLY INVALIDATE THE PROJECT WE'VE ALREADY ADOPT. YOU KNOW, THE COUNCIL ALREADY APPROVED THE PROJECT AND SUBSEQUENTLY, OF COURSE, ORDERED US TO ADOPT A STATEMENT OF OVERRIDING CONSIDERATIONS. SO IF WE ELECTED NOT TO PROCEED WITH ADOPTING A STATEMENT OF OVERRIDING CONSIDERATIONS, WE'D HAVE PROBABLY A DISPUTE WITH THE APPLICANT. OKAY. UH, THANK YOU, JOHN, FOR THE PROCEDURE. JUST AGAIN, TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE, THE CLARIFICATION AROUND PROCESS. UM, UH, AMY, UH, I'M GOING TO RATTLE OFF SOME OF THE OTHER BENEFITS, WHICH AGAIN, WERE AWESOME. SO, 3.2 MILLION, UM, POTENTIAL, UH, SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR OFFICE SPACE, 7.2 ACRES FOR PARKS AND COMMUNITY, UM, UH, PROJECTS. WE [00:40:01] HAVE A WETLANDS MITIGATION, UH, THERE'S MORE TO IT. UM, THESE ARE, AGAIN, WITHOUT SOUNDING LIKE A BROKEN RECORD, REALLY AMAZING. UH, BUT I DID NOTICE THAT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THIS IS A STATEMENT THAT WE WILL BE PROVIDING AND AFFIRMING TO THE COURT. SO, UM, WAS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION FOR A BENEFIT TO PUBLIC SAFETY? YEAH, SO I THINK THE KEY PART ABOUT JUST TAKE, JUST TAKING A STEP BACK BEFORE WE ANSWER THAT QUESTION. I THINK THE KEY PIECE OF CQA, WHICH, UM, MIGHT, MIGHT BE MISSING HERE, IS THAT THE PURPOSE OF CEQ IS TO DISCLOSE IMPACTS, RIGHT? SO YOU'RE DISCLOSING ALL OF YOUR ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS, YOU GO THROUGH THE CHECKLIST AND YOU LOOK AT WHAT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT. WHEN YOU FIND THAT THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT UNAVOIDABLE IMPACT, THEN BEFORE YOU APPROVE A PROJECT, YOU HAVE TO APPROVE A STATEMENT OF OVERRIDING CONSIDERATION. BECAUSE THE PURPOSE OF CQA IS NOT NECESSARILY TO BE ABLE TO MITIGATE EVERY SINGLE IMPACT DOWN TO LESS SIGNIFICANT, SIGNIFICANT, RIGHT? SOME PROJECTS JUST HAVE IMPACTS. AND SO THE PURPOSE OF THE STATEMENT OF OVERRIDING CONSIDERATION IS TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT SOME PROJECTS HAVE IMPACTS, BUT THE PROJECT HAS A BENEFIT, RIGHT? SO WE ARE TAKING THIS VERY THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATION AND SAYING, OKAY, THERE IS A, WE ARE MAKING A STATEMENT TO OVERRIDE THOSE IMPACTS BECAUSE WE ACKNOWLEDGE, UH, THE BENEFITS OF THE PROJECT. SO THAT'S SORT OF THE FOUNDATION IN WHICH ALL OF THIS IS EVEN HAPPENING, RIGHT? SO PROCEDURALLY, THE COURT SAID YOU NEEDED TO DO THIS AGAIN AT THE TIME THAT WE APPROVED THE PROJECT. SO FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY PERSPECTIVE, ALL OF THAT IS ANALYZED IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT. WE HAVE TO DO CONSISTENCY WITH THE GENERAL PLAN. AND THEN OUTSIDE OF THAT, THERE'S ALSO THE COORDINATION WITH THE PUBLIC SAFETY, THE FIRE PUBLIC WORKS, RIGHT? EVERYONE TAKES THEIR REVIEW OF A PROJECT. SO, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON SPECIFICALLY WHAT YOU'RE THINKING OF, THERE'S MANY, MANY ASPECTS TO PUBLIC SAFETY AND MANY AREAS OF THE PROJECT REVIEW PROCESS OF THE SQA PROCESS IN WHICH PUBLIC SAFETY IS LOOKED AT, CONSIDERED ADDRESSED THROUGH THE PROCESS. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? THAT'S GREAT. UH, CAN YOU GIMME AN EXAMPLE OF WHERE PUBLIC SAFETY WOULD BE ADDRESSED IN A SQA REVIEW? UH, SURE. SO, UM, TRANSPORTATION IS ONE OF THEM, RIGHT? DO YOU HAVE APPROPRIATE ACCESS AND CIRCULATION? UM, FIRE IMPACTS, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT, UM, UH, IMPACTS TO WATER RESOURCES. YOU HAVE TO, UM, SEISMIC, UH, IS ONE OF THEM, UH, GEOLOGICAL, UH, NOISE, RIGHT? ALL OF THESE REALLY FUNDAMENTALLY COME BACK TO, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY AND WELFARE, RIGHT? ALL, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN KIND OF DRAW A LINE TO ALMOST EVERYTHING THAT WE DO ON A REGULAR BASIS. AND EVERY PORTION OF A PROJECT REVIEW OR A SQL REVIEW ALL COMES BACK TO, UH, SORT OF, YOU KNOW, THE PURPOSE OF WHY WE ARE HERE, RIGHT? WHICH IS PUBLIC SAFETY, HEALTHY, AND WELL, HEALTH AND WELFARE. OKAY. UM, VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. UH, AGAIN, I'M, I'M SIMPLY ASKING, BECAUSE IF YOU'RE ASKING ME TO PUT MY NAME ON THIS, I WANNA MAKE SURE I HAVE, I GET IT RIGHT. UM, THE NEXT BENEFIT I WANT TO ASK ABOUT IS THE DUBLIN BOULEVARD EXTENSION. SO WITH THIS, UM, STATEMENT, UM, WHAT BENEFIT DOES IT GIVE TO THE EXTENSION AND DOES IT ADD ANY FUNDING TO THE EXTENSION? UH, SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE PROJECT DOES IS PART OF THE ENTITLEMENT IS THAT IT DEDICATES THE ENTIRETY OF THE DOUBLE BOULEVARD EXTENSION THROUGH THE PROJECT. SO WITHOUT A PROJECT, UH, YOU HAVE TO GET THE RIGHTS TO THAT PROPERTY IN A DIFFERENT WAY, RIGHT? WHETHER IT BE IMMINENT DOMAIN OR SOME OTHER PROCESS. SO WHEN YOU HAVE A DEVELOPER WHO'S WILLING TO COME TO THE TABLE WITH A MAP, ALSO REQUESTING A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, THEN YOU CAN SHOW THAT DEDICATION ON THE MAP AND THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WHICH IS INCLUDED IN THIS PROJECT. OH, OKAY. THAT'S GREAT. UH, UH, WHEN YOU SAY THE ENTIRETY OF THE DUBLIN BOULEVARD EXTENSION, AM I MISTAKEN THEN TO ASSUME THAT THE DEVELOPER WOULD GO ALL THE WAY TO THE LIVERMORE CITY LINE? I'M SORRY. I THOUGHT THAT I HAD SAID THE ENTIRETY THROUGH THE PROJECT SITE. UH, MAYBE I MENTALLY SAID THAT, BUT DIDN'T ACTUALLY SAY THAT, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M, THAT'S WHAT I MEANT TO SAY, JUST THROUGH THEIR PROJECT SITE IS WHAT THEY WOULD BE LIMITED TO. GOT IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, AND THEN, UH, BECAUSE THE, ONE OF THE BENEFITS SORT OF EXTENDED INTO THE, INTO THE SCHOOL THING, UM, , JUST ENTERTAIN ME FOR A SECOND. [00:45:01] UH, AND TELL ME IF, IF, UH, YOU DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER, BUT THAT'S OKAY, THE, GOING OVER TO THE SCHOOL SIDE OF THIS CONVERSATION, UM, IS THERE A PERCENTAGE OF THE TAX REVENUE THAT WOULD BE GOING TO A NEW SCHOOL? UH, AM I, I MEAN, CONSIDERING THAT THERE ARE POTENTIALLY 642.6 NEW LIVES COMING ONLINE HERE, UM, THAT'S A KIND OF A MATERIAL NUMBER FOR POTENTIALLY CHILDREN TOO. YEAH. SO IT SEEMS LIKE THERE MIGHT BE SOMEBODY WHO WANTS TO RESPOND. THE ONLY THING THAT I WILL SAY, UH, COMMISSIONER MAR OR COUNCILMAN MARADA, IS THAT THERE ARE SCHOOL IMPACT FEES ASSOCIATED WHEN YOU PULL BUILDING PERMITS FOR RESIDENTIAL UNITS. THEY'RE ACTUALLY IMPACT FEES WHEN YOU PULL THEM FOR COMMERCIAL AS WELL. THEY'RE JUST SUBSTANTIALLY LESS. SO, UH, AS THEY PULL THE BUILDING PERMITS, THEY WILL PAY THE SCHOOL IMPACT FEES. IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO ADD? THE SCHOOL DISTRICT GETS ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT OF PROPERTY TAX THAT, UH, THE CITY DOES COUNCIL MEMBER. SO ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT PAYS PROPERTY TAX IS GONNA CONTRIBUTE, UH, TO SCHOOL REVENUE. OKAY. VERY NICE. AGAIN, I'M, I'M ELATED WITH THE, THE BENEFITS TO THE CITY. UM, AND THEN JUST IN, IN CLOSING, AMY, IF I MAY, JUST BECAUSE I'M, I'M VERY CONSERVATIVE IN, IN MY ASSESSMENT OR, OR LET'S, LET'S SAY ME PUTTING MY NAME ON SOMETHING THAT GOES TO A COURT. UM, WHAT ARE THE POTENTIAL RISKS ASSOCIATED TO THESE OVERRIDING CONSIDERATIONS AS A STATEMENT THAT WILL GO TO THE ALAMEDA SUPERIOR COURT? I, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MARDA, I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE ARE ANY RISKS ASSOCIATED WITH ADOPTING THE STATEMENT OF OVERRIDING CONSIDERATIONS. THIS IS JUST, UH, A PROCEDURAL PROCESS THAT THE COURT ASKED US TO PROCEED WITH. UM, I THINK THE RISK WOULD OCCUR IF WE CHOSE NOT TO PROCEED WITH ADOPTING THE STATEMENT OF OVERRIDING CONSIDERATIONS, AND THEN WE MIGHT FACE A DISPUTE WITH THE, WITH THE APPLICANT. UM, I, I, I JUST WANNA MAKE ONE THING CLEAR TO YOU THAT THE COURT ASKED US TO ADOPT THE STATEMENT OF OVERRIDING CONSIDERATIONS. THE COURT'S NOT GONNA REVIEW THE STATEMENT OF OVERRIDING CONSIDERATIONS. THE COURT'S JUST GONNA CONFIRM THAT WE, THAT YOU MADE THE POLICY DECISION TO ADOPT THE STATEMENT OF OVERRIDING CONSIDERATIONS. THAT'S ALL THE COURT'S SEEKING FROM US. OKAY. UH, GOOD DISTINCTION. THANK YOU, JOHN. UH, AMY, NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. UH, MAYOR, I HAND IT BACK TO YOU. THANK YOU. UM, QUICK QUESTION. YOU HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION? YEAH. OKAY, GO AHEAD. JUST ONE VERY QUICK QUESTION. UM, YOU MENTIONED, UH, SHARING, YOU KNOW, THE, OUR COMPLIANCE WITH, WITH THE COURT. HOW IS THIS COMMUNICATED WITH EITHER, UH, YOU KNOW, THE READOPTING AND, AND REAFFIRMING THIS, UM, STATEMENT OF OVERRIDING CONSIDERATIONS? IS THAT GIVEN BACK TO THE COMMUNITY, FUTURE RESIDENTS, CURRENT RESIDENTS? HOW, HOW IS THAT COMMUNICATED OUT? UH, WELL, THIS COUNCIL MEETING IS, IS REALLY THE ONLY COMMUNICATION WE'RE GONNA HAVE WITH THE PUBLIC ABOUT, ABOUT THE STATEMENT OF OVERRIDING CONSIDERATIONS, THAT THAT'S, THAT'S HOW THE PROCESS WORKS. AND THEN THERE'S A RETURN TO THE WRIT WHERE WE, UH, JUST FILE A PLEADING IN COURT AND SAY, YOUR HONOR, WE COMPLY WITH THE WRIT BY DOING X, Y, AND Z. UH, WE FILE THAT. AND, UM, IF THE OTHER SIDE WANTS TO SAY, OH, YOU DIDN'T DO THAT, OR CHALLENGE IT IN SOME WAY, THEY CAN DO THAT. BUT IT, I THINK THAT'LL BE THE END OF IT. WE FILE IT AND, AND THE CA CASE WILL BE RESOLVED. PERFECT. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD. JUST ASK A QUICK FOLLOW UP QUESTION. UM, WE ARE NOT ADOPTING NEW STATEMENTS OF OVERRIDING CONSIDERATION TONIGHT. CORRECT. WE ARE REAFFIRMING STATEMENTS OF OVERRIDING CONSIDERATION THAT WERE ALREADY APPROVED IN SUBSEQUENT OR IN PRI PRIOR SQA REVIEWS. THAT IS CORRECT. THROUGH EASTERN, EASTERN DOUBLE SPECIFIC PLAN, UH, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. CORRECT? YEAH. WE KIND OF LOST THAT POINT IN THE COURSE OF ALL THE, ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP. BUT BASICALLY WHAT HAPPENED IS TRADITION. SO, SO IN 1995 OR 1994, WHEN THE, WHEN THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED THE EASTERN DUBLIN SPECIFIC PLAN, UM, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF IMPACTS, UH, THAT THAT COULDN'T BE MITIGATED. AND SO THE COUNCIL AT THAT TIME WAS REQUIRED TO ADOPT A STATEMENT OF OVERRIDING CONSIDERATIONS, AND DID, AND WE'VE RELIED ON THAT STATEMENT OF OVERRIDING CONSIDERATIONS EVER SINCE. AND, UH, THE, THE PETITIONERS IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE CHALLENGED THAT, AND ASSERTED THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO RECONSIDER AND READOPT THOSE, UH, STATEMENTS OF OVERRIDING CONSIDERATIONS EVERY TIME WE APPROVE A PROJECT, WHEN WE'RE RELYING ON THE OLD, OR THE, I, SORRY, I SHOULD NEVER SAY OLD EIR, THE, THE 1995 EIR. UM, UH, AND IT IS, UH, A PROCEDURAL MATTER THAT WE HAVE TO DO THAT. BUT WHAT WE WERE REALLY DOING IS SORT OF RATIFYING WHAT THE COUNCIL'S DONE IN THE PAST. AND IN, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, WE, WE, THE, THE STATEMENT OF OVERRUN CONSIDERATIONS IS BASICALLY WHAT WE DID BEFORE, BUT WE TAILORED IT EVER SO SLIGHTLY TO FOCUS ON, ON WHAT'S INVOLVED IN THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. OKAY. AND, UM, WE'VE LOOKED AT IT MORE THAN JUST 1995, CORRECT THOSE STATEMENTS. WE'VE LOOKED AT 'EM SINCE 1995. RIGHT. WE RECONSIDER THEM [00:50:01] EVERY TIME AND MAKE SURE THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL IMPACTS AND EVERYTHING'S WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE ORIGINAL IM, UH, THE IMPACTS THAT WERE CONSIDERED PREVIOUSLY. SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE EVALUATE. EVERY PROJECT WE CONSIDER, WE REVIEW THE CHECKLIST AND MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THERE ISN'T ANY IMPACTS THAT HAVEN'T PREVIOUSLY BEEN CONSIDERED. PERFECT. THANK YOU MORE. NO, THAT'S IT. HAPPY TO MAKE ANY MORE COMMENTS. SO WE HAVE TWO, UM, PUBLIC COMMENTS, UM, SPEAKER SLIPS ON THIS ITEM. SO THE FIRST ONE HERE IS HERE IN THE CHAMBER, AND THAT'S TOM EVANS. GOOD EVENING MAYOR COUNCIL AND THE STAFF. I'M TOM EVANS, LONGTIME RESIDENT. UM, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH A STATEMENT OF CONSIDERATIONS, BUT THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN, I'M NOT PARTICULARLY COMFORTABLE WITH IT, STARTS OUT SAYING THE CITY COUNCIL HAS PREPARED THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT. AND I'M CURIOUS IF THAT'S TRUE. DID THE FIVE OF YOU GET TOGETHER AND HAMMER THE STATEMENT OUT? OR WAS IT PREPARED BY STAFF AND YOU'RE APPROVING IT? AND IF YOU WERE JUST APPROVING IT, IT MIGHT BE NICE TO CHANGE THAT WORD. UM, THERE'S A FEW BENEFITS, AND OF COURSE, IT'S UP TO THE COUNCIL TO DECIDE WHETHER THE BENEFITS OUTWEIGH THE, UH, IMPACTS. WELL, ACTUALLY, THAT WAS ALREADY DONE AS COUNCIL MEMBER JOSIE POINTED OUT. UM, BUT SOME OF THESE THAT, THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP JUST FAR, NOT BENEFITS, I MEAN, A BENEFIT WOULD BE OKAY, MIGHT PROVIDE MORE JOBS. THAT'S A GOOD THING, PROVIDES REVENUE FOR THE CITY, THOSE, THAT'S A BENEFIT. UH, PARKS AND SUCH BENEFITS, I COULD SEE ALL THOSE. BUT STUFF LIKE, UM, DEVELOPMENT OF 126 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL AND, UH, WELL COMPLETE DEVELOPMENT ON THE LAST REMAINING UNDEVELOPED PORTIONS IN EASTERN DUBLIN. I DON'T SEE HOW THAT'S A BENEFIT. IF YOU'RE SAYING WE HAD VACANT LAND AND NOW WE'VE FILLED IT UP, ISN'T THAT GREAT? IT'S, I DON'T SEE THE BENEFIT. IN FACT, IF ANYTHING, IT'S PROBABLY NOT NICE, UH, TO LOOK AT AS, AS THE ROLLING HILLS ARE. BUT AGAIN, IT'S JUST NOT A BENEFIT. SO IT SHOULDN'T BE IN THERE. UH, ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS, DUBLIN BOULEVARD, YOU KNOW, IF, UH, IF DUBLIN STILL HAS TO PAY FOR DUBLIN BOULEVARD, I DON'T SEE HOW THIS PROJECT IS PROVIDING A BENEFIT. UM, STREETSCAPE, THIS ONE, I, I JUST CAN'T GET OVER. THEY'RE GONNA PROVIDE CURBS, GUTTERS, SIDEWALKS, AND LANDSCAPING. I MEAN, I, I, I THINK I HAVE TO DIG PRETTY DEEP TO PULL THAT INTO A BENEFIT. UM, MARINA, UH, THIS SAYS IT HELPS WITH REINA. I DISAGREE. UH, UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY TROUBLE FILLING THE MARKET RATE REQUIREMENTS FOR REINA. THAT'S EASY. IT'S THE, YOU KNOW, IF THIS WAS PROVIDING SIGNIFICANT LOW COST HOUSING, THEN YEAH, THEN, THEN YOU'RE HELPING OUT WITH RENA. BUT I DON'T THINK THIS PROJECT IS, I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY, SEEN ANY, UH, LOW COST HOUSING, UM, FURTHER URBANIZATION OF EASTERN DUBLIN AS PLANNED BY THE CITY. UM, I DON'T KNOW. WHY IS THAT A BENEFIT? YOU KNOW, JUST, JUST THE FACT THAT YOU'RE DOING IT, THAT'S, IT'S NOT A BENEFIT, UH, CONTRIBUTE FUNDS TO CONSTRUCT SCHOOLS, PARKS, AND OTHER COMMUNITY FACILITIES. WELL, HOW MUCH ARE THEY CONTRIBUTING? UH, HISTORICALLY, THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS COME UP SHORT. YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU GET SO MUCH PER STUDENT, BUT THEY HAVE TO BUILD, UH, BUILDINGS TO ACCOMMODATE THEM TO ME. TOM IS, YOU ARE OVER TIME. I'M OUT OF TIME. YEAH, YOU ARE OVER. YEAH. OH, THANK YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU. THANKS SO MUCH. AND MAYOR, THE NEXT SPEAKER IS ON ZOOM, AND IT'S SHIRLEY LEWANDOWSKI. GOOD. THANK YOU, MARSHA. THIS IS SHIRLEY. LOKI. GOOD EVENING. I'M A LONGTIME DUBLIN RESIDENT. GOOD EVENING MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF, YOU ARE BEING ASKED TO ADOPT THE SIX PAGE WRITEUP BY STAFF ON THE DUBLIN FALLON GH BPA FIVE 80 PROJECT REGARDING STATEMENTS OF OVERRUN IN CONSIDERATIONS IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH THE ALAMEDA COUNTY SUPERIOR COURT'S WRIT FROM NOVEMBER 19TH, 2025, TO PROVIDE A NEW AND MORE CLARIFYING STATEMENT OF OVERRIDING CONSIDERATION. THIS WRITEUP DOESN'T CLEARLY STATE THE REASONS FOR OVERRIDING THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS. IT REFERS TO A LOT OF GENERALITIES, REPETITIVE RHETORIC AND REFERENCES, THE OLDER DOCUMENT. SO MY QUESTIONS ARE, IF A PUBLIC IS JUST READING THE SIX PAGE DOCUMENT, DO THEY EVEN KNOW WHAT THE BENEFITS ARE TO OVERRIDE THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS? I DON'T SEE IT FROM THIS WRITEUP. AS THE ALAMEDA COUNTY SUPERIOR COURT REVIEWED AND APPROVED IT, APPARENTLY A WRIT HAS TO [00:55:01] GO BACK TO THE COURT. AND I CAN'T BELIEVE THE COURT WILL NOT REVIEW IT, AND MAY PROBABLY HAVE OTHER COMMENTS. HAS THE COMPANY WHO FILED A LAWSUIT, KING KINGSWOOD OWNERS ASSOCIATION, REVIEWED AND APPROVED IT? THEY AS A FILING, UH, APPLICANT FOR THIS LAWSUIT. THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO REVIEW IT, AND I'M SURE THEY WOULD WANNA MAKE A COMMENT WHETHER OR NOT THEY AGREED THAT THE CITY HAS FULFILLED WHAT THE COURT HAD ASKED. HAS THIS PROJECT RECEIVED ALL THE APPROPRIATE AGENCY PERMITS TO MOVE IT FORWARD, SUCH AS THE US ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS, FISH AND WILDLIFE, ET CETERA? WHERE CAN I FIND DATA, REAL DATA INFORMATION WHERE THE CITY HAS MONITORED AND PROVE STATEMENTS OF OVERRIDING CONSIDERATIONS FROM PAST PROJECTS, PAST DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS THAT HAVE PROVEN THE BENEFITS THEY CLAIM THEN HAVE OUTWEIGHED THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS? IS THAT INFORMATION AVAILABLE? I WOULD APPRECIATE RESPONSES TO MY QUESTIONS AS YOU FURTHER DELIBERATE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I HAVE NO MORE SPEAKER SLIPS ON THE SIDE. THANK YOU. SO, UM, LET'S COME BACK TO, TO THIS 5.7. ANY MORE COMMENTS ABOUT 5.7? NO. OKAY. SO, UH, WE, WE HAVE, THIS IS A CONSTANT CANADA, SO WE HAVE A 5.2, 5.4, AND THE 5.7 WE NEED TO, UM, VOTE ON. SO, UH, I WANT TO SAY, DO WE WANT TO VOTE EACH OF THEM SEPARATELY? ACTUALLY, SOMETHING JUST, I THOUGHT, WHAT, 5.7? YEAH, FIVE SEVEN. OKAY. JUST TO SORT COME BACK 5.7 FOR JOHN, UM, THERE SEEMS TO BE THIS DOCUMENT, UH, IS THERE A, UH, CONSIDERATION OR COULD THERE BE A CONSIDERATION FOR REVIEWING THE, THE, THE, THE WORDING AND ASSESSING WHAT THOSE BENEFITS ARE? AND TO CLARIFY? WELL, YEAH, I MEAN, THE, THE COUNCIL COULD CERTAINLY ALTER THE STATEMENT OF OVERRIDING CONSIDERATIONS IF IT CHOSE TO. I MEAN, THESE ARE, THESE ARE, THESE ARE YOUR STATEMENTS OF OVERRIDING CONSIDERATIONS. THE THING I WOULD, I WOULD REMIND THE COUNCIL ABOUT IS THIS DOCUMENT IS BASED ON THE ORIGINAL STATEMENT OF OVERRIDING CONSIDERATIONS FROM 19 95, 19 94, ACTUALLY. AND SO IT'S JUST BEEN TAILORED TO FOCUS ON THE PROJECT. UM, IT, THIS IS, IS A PROCEDURAL MATTER, BUT IF THE COUNCIL HAS CONCERNS ABOUT THE STATEMENT, IT THEY COULD CER IT COULD CERTAINLY BE ALTERED. THE, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE QUESTION IS WHETHER OR NOT THE COUNCIL BELIEVES THAT THE PROJECT, UH, THE BENEFITS OF THE PROJECT OUTWEIGH THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS THAT, UH, CAN'T BE MITIGATED. I MEAN, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF BENEFITS ARTICULATED IN THE STATEMENT OF OVERRIDING CONSIDERATIONS. I HEARD, I HEARD SOME, UM, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, UM, INDICATING THAT, THAT THEY FOUND SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE STATEMENTS THAT ARE LISTED, UH, NOT TO BE BENEFITS OR NOT TO BE THAT SIGNIFICANT, BUT I DIDN'T HEAR ANYONE SAY THAT, THAT ALL OF THE BENEFITS TOGETHER DIDN'T, DIDN'T OVERRIDE THE, THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT. SO I, I DON'T KNOW. I THINK THAT'S A JUDGMENT FOR THE COUNCIL. ULTIMATELY IT, OKAY. UH, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT, AND, AND THIS IS MY, MY WORDING, THAT WE'RE NOT JUST TAKING A DOCUMENT AND REPEATING IT, AND THAT WE ARE, UM, FOR PROCEDURAL MATTER, AND THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT HOW WE'RE SAYING AND HOW WE'RE PHRASING, AND TO BE CLEAR WITH WHAT, UM, WHAT THOSE BENEFITS ARE. AND THAT'S THE ONLY REASON I'M BRINGING THIS UP, IS IF THERE IS NOT CLARITY, UM, THEN IS THERE ANY HARM IN TWEAKING IT OR IS THERE SOME KIND OF A, UH, ISSUE WITH DOING THAT? I'M NOT GONNA GET, YOU KNOW, PULL UP, GO DOWN A HOLE HERE. I JUST WANT TO SEE IF THERE'S A WAY TO LOOK AT THIS DOCUMENT AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, OKAY, MAYBE WE WEREN'T SO CLEAR ON THIS. UH, MAYBE WE COULD ELABORATE ON THIS. UH, THAT'S MY ONLY QUESTION, JUST TO BE CLEAR AND TRANS A LITTLE MORE TRANSPARENT. IF, IF THAT IS THE WILL, UH, OR, OR THERE, IS THERE ANY ISSUE WITH, WITH DOING THAT THERE'S NO LEGAL ISSUE WITH, WITH, UM, MAKING SOME CHANGES OR CLARIFICATION TO THE, TO THE STATEMENT? IF THAT'S THE COUNSEL'S DESIRE? UM, I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE, UH, ANOTHER RE UH, ANOTHER LOOK AT THAT. UM, IF IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE DONE TONIGHT, UM, I, I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST THROWING THIS OUT HERE FOR, FOR THOUGHTS HERE. UH, AND IF YOU HAVE, I'D LIKE TO HEAR THE REST OF YOU. WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? WHAT, WHAT ARE THE CONSEQUENCES OF NOT DOING THIS TONIGHT? WHAT, WHAT DID THE COURT ASK US TO DO? UH, WELL, WE HAVE TO RETURN TO THE COURT. UM, BUT WE, WE DO HAVE TIME. WE COULD, WE COULD BRING IT BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING. UM, [01:00:01] YOU KNOW, IT, IT, SO, SO WE DO HAVE TIME TO REVISE IT. AND HOW MUCH STAFF WORK IS THAT TO REVISE IT BASED ON DIRECTION THAT YOU HAVEN'T YET GOTTEN? I UNDERSTAND YOU MAY GET DIRECTION OF SPECIFIC CHANGES YOU WANT, BUT FOR US TO SAY, WE'RE NOT GONNA DO THIS TONIGHT, PLEASE TAKE ANOTHER SWING AT THIS AND BRING IT BACK TO US WITHOUT SPECIFIC DIRECTION. WELL, WE DID HEAR SOME COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC TONIGHT, SO WE'D EVALUATE, UH, THE, THE STATEMENT IN LIGHT OF THOSE COMMENTS AND ANY OTHER DIRECTION YOU GAVE US. I DON'T KNOW. IT'S, IT'S A, A LITTLE, IT'S, IT'S SOME WORK. I THINK THE APPLICANT'S GONNA END UP PAYING FOR IT. SO IT'S NOT GONNA, IT'S NOT GONNA COST THE CITY A LOT OF MONEY, BUT IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE SOME STAFF EFFORT REQUIRED TO GET IT BACK ON AN AGENDA AT SOME POINT. SO WE'VE HEARD, AND, AND NOT TO MINIMIZE PUBLIC COMMENT, WHICH I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE PEOPLE THAT COME ALL THE TIME, BUT THAT WOULD'VE BEEN TAKING DIRECTION FROM THE PUBLIC IN WRITING A STATEMENT OF OVERRIDING CONSIDERATIONS, WHICH I DON'T THINK IS PROBABLY THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL. I THINK WE WOULD, WE WOULD WANT TO DECIDE WHICH OF THOSE COMMENTS WE AGREED UPON AND WHICH ONES WE DON'T. UM, AND WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED THIS PROJECT AT SOME LENGTH WHEN WE APPROVED IT. DISCUSS THE EIR, UH, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS DISCUSSED. THE EIR, THE, UM, COUNCIL DISCUSSED IT AT LEAST TWICE. AND I, MY RECOLLECTION, RECOLLECTION IS MORE THAN TWICE. UM, UH, SO I, I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHAT YOUR PURPOSE IN REWRITING THEM IS WHEN IT'S NOT GOING TO MATERIAL IN, I MEAN, I'M NOT, I DON'T IF NECESSARILY DISAGREE WITH IT'S MATERIAL OR NOT. I DON'T NECESSARILY DISAGREE WITH YOU. I'M JUST NOT REALLY SURE WHAT THE PURPOSE WOULD BE AT THIS POINT. 'CAUSE IT'S NOT GONNA CHANGE THE PROJECT. IT'S NOT GONNA CHANGE WHETHER THE PROJECT GOES FORWARD. UM, AND TO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MCC, I'M SORRY, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, CADRE'S POINT THESE TWO MEETINGS. IF, IF IN FACT IT BECOMES TWO MEETINGS ARE THE POINTS AT WHICH WE ARE GOING TO COMMUNICATE THIS OUT TO THE PUBLIC. SO IT'S NOT GONNA GO, IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE GONNA THEN PUBLISH THEM OTHER THAN IN THE PROJECT FILE AND THEN MAIL THEM OUT TO THE RESIDENTS MM-HMM . UM, FOR, YOU KNOW, NEW STATEMENTS. SO PERSONALLY, I DON'T REALLY SEE THE POINT OF GOING DOWN THAT ROAD WHEN WE'VE ALREADY SORT OF MADE THE STATEMENTS OF OVER IN CONSIDERATION. AND SO I, I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHY WE, WE NEED TO HAVE A VAN COMING BACK. I GUESS MY POINT IS, UM, ARE WE JUST, UH, THROUGH ROUTINE JUST CUTTING AND PASTING SOMETHING AND NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO HOW WE'RE SAYING IT? SO IT'S MORE OF HOW WE'RE SAYING IT THAN, UH, THE FACT THAT, HEY, IT ALL SAYS THE SAME THING. IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER. SO I, I, I THINK ALL I'M SAYING IS IF WE WANNA BE CLEAR IN OUR DOCUMENTS, UH, AND UH, THEN, UH, MAYBE WE SHOULD TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THIS. THAT'S ALL. AND I DON'T THINK IT'S A, A BIG DEAL. IT'S A BIG ASK. THAT'S ALL. THAT'S ALL IT IS. YEAH. I DON'T, I DON'T THINK IT'S A T TERRIBLY HUGE ASK EITHER. YEAH. BUT I DON'T THINK WORDSMITHING IS GONNA CHANGE MUCH, AND I'M COMFORTABLE WITH, WITH IT THE WAY IT IS. YOU'RE FINE. OKAY. I'LL SEE. SO I'M SURE IT COULD BE WORDSMITHED AND IMPROVED. UH, PERHAPS WE GIVE DIRECTION TO STAFF TO, YOU KNOW, ANYTIME THIS COMES BACK IN, IN THE FUTURE, THEY TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT IT. BUT I'M, I'M NOT SURE IF IT HAS ANY MATERIAL IMPACT OR, UH, IF IT, IF IT REALLY CHANGES ANYTHING AND, AND IT, AND NEXT TIME WE APPROVE A PROJECT AND WE RELY ON THE EASTERN DUBLIN SPECIFIC PLAN, UM, IT'S LIKELY WE WILL BE, UH, BRINGING BACK A STATEMENT OF OVERRIDING CONSIDERATIONS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE COURT ORDER DOESN'T APPLY TO FUTURE PROJECTS, BUT, UM, I THINK WE'VE FOLLOWED THE DIRECTION THE COURT GAVE US. SO, SO WE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT, THAT WORDSMITHING YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ON FUTURE PROJECTS. SO, UM, SO WE'RE DONE DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM. I AGREE WITH ALL OF YOU. LIKE, UH, WE CAN IMPROVE, BUT MAYBE WE DON'T HAVE TO, UM, FOR THIS SCENARIO, BECAUSE WE ALL MAKE A MATERIAL CHANGE. I, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THIS. SO LET'S JUST, UH, MAKE A ROLL CALL FOR EACH OF THOSE 5.2. MAYBE WE CAN COMBINE 5.2 AND 5.4, UM, AND THEN 5.7 SEPARATELY. SURE. HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION FOR ITEMS 5.2 AND 5.4 ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR. YEAH. SO LET'S, UH, VOTE ON THIS. UH, UM, 5.2. YOU NEED A SECOND? YEAH, I KNOW. 5.2 AND 5.4. AND THEN WE HAVE A, A MOTION YOU TO GO SECOND. YEAH, I SECOND ON THOSE. WE HAVE A MICHAEL AT SECOND. LET'S DO THE ROLL CALL. COUNCIL MEMBER MARADA. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER CADRE. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARSTEN. AYE. VICE MAYOR JOSIE. AYE. MAYOR WHO, AYE. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. I MAKE A SECOND MOTION FOR ITEM 5.7. I'LL SECOND. SO WE HAVE A MOTION. I SECOND FOR 5.7. LET'S DO THE ROLL CALL COUNCIL. MIRANDA ABSTAIN. COUNCIL MEMBER CADRE. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER CORSTEN. YEAH. YES. VICE MAYOR JOSIE? YES. [01:05:01] MAYOR WHO? YES. MOTION PASSES. BOARD ZERO. GREAT, THANK YOU. SO MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM SIX. UM, I'M SORRY, MAYOR, DID I JUST HEAR CITY CLERK SAY MOTION PASSED AT FOUR TO ZERO OR FOUR TO ONE? FOUR TO ONE? IT'S FOUR TO FOUR TO ZERO TO ONE. WHAT? ZERO. OH, GOT IT. THANK YOU. SORRY, THE ABSTAIN. YEAH, THE COUNCIL MEMBER ABSTAIN. SO HE DIDN'T VOTE. NO, HE, HE ABSTAIN. SO WE WOULD, WE WERE GONNA LIST IT ACCORDINGLY IN THE MINUTES. OKAY. YEP. SORRY, MY MIC WENT OUT FOR A SECOND. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFICATION. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO AGENDA ITEM SIX, PUBLIC HEARING. NINE, SEVEN. I'M FINISHED THE BUSINESS NINE, AGENDA [8.1 Report on Dublin’s Safe and Sane Fireworks Program ] EIGHT, NEW BUSINESS 8.1. GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. JORDAN FOS, SENIOR MANAGEMENT ANALYST. AND THIS EVENING I'LL BE PROVIDING AN INFORMATIONAL REPORT ON DUBLIN'S SAFE AND SANE FIREWORKS PROGRAM. UH, THIS REPORT IS IN RESPONSE TO A JUNE 17TH, 2025 REQUEST FROM THE CITY COUNCIL TO RECEIVE AN INFORMATIONAL REPORT ON THE CITY'S PROGRAM. SO TO START WITH SOME HISTORICAL CONTEXT. UH, SINCE DUBLIN'S INCORPORATION IN 1982, THE CITY HAS BEEN REGULATING FIREWORKS OVER THE YEARS. THE SALE OF SAFE AND SANE FIREWORKS HAS BEEN ADDRESSED THROUGH ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS BY THE CITY COUNCIL, AS WELL AS OPERATIONAL POLICIES, UH, THAT BALANCE COMMUNITY BENEFIT AND SAFETY COMPLIANCE. FURTHERMORE, THE SALE OF SAFE AND SANE FIREWORKS HAS BEEN VOTED ON THROUGH TWO ADVISORY BALLOT MEASURES. THE FIRST IN 1982 AND THE SECOND IN 1988, BOTH BALLOT MEASURES WERE TO BAN THE SALE OF SAFE AND SANE FIREWORKS, AND BOTH WERE DEFEATED BY THE VOTERS. IN 1987, THE DUBLIN MUNICIPAL CODE CHAPTER 5.24 WAS PUBLISHED, UH, INCORPORATING VARIOUS ORDINANCES AND AMENDMENTS ON THE SALE OF SAFE AND INSANE FIREWORKS INTO ONE CHAPTER. UH, IN 2002, THE CITY COUNCIL AT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE CITY'S THEN ASSIGNED FIREWORKS COMMITTEE APPROVED THE DESIGNATION OF FOUR CITY PARKS FOR SAFE AND SANE FIREWORKS USE ON JULY 4TH ONLY. I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT THESE ACTIONS ADDRESS SAFE AND SANE FIREWORKS, UM, AND A ILLEGAL FIREWORKS ARE BANNED BY STATE LAW. SO ILLEGAL FIREWORKS ARE CONSIDERED EXPLOSIVE AND OR AERIAL IN NATURE, AND IT IS A MISDEMEANOR OR FELONY TO POSSESS OR DISCHARGE THOSE ANYWHERE UNLESS PERMITTED BY A STATE LICENSED POWER TECHNICIAN, PYRO TECHNICIAN. THE SALE OF SAFE AND SAME FIREWORKS IS ALLOWED WITH A PERMIT IN COMMERCIAL AREAS OF THE CITY BASED ON THE CITY'S CURRENT POPULATION AND REGULATIONS LISTED IN THE MUNICIPAL CODE, WHICH ALLOW FOR ONE BOOTH PER 3000 RESIDENTS, NOT INCLUDING GROUP QUARTERS POPULATIONS. UH, IT ALLOWS FOR UP TO 23 BOOTHS TO BE PERMITTED. UH, THE CITY DOES OPERATE A LOTTERY SYSTEM WHEN THE NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS EXCEED. WHAT WE ALLOW FOR BOOTHS AND FOR ORGANIZATIONS THAT WOULD LIKE TO APPLY FOR A SALES PERMIT, THEY MUST BE A NONPROFIT WITH 5 0 1 C3 STATUS. THEY MUST BE BASED IN DUBLIN FOR AT LEAST ONE YEAR, UH, AND HAVE 20 RESIDENT MEMBERS. THEY MUST SERVE THE DUBLIN COMMUNITY, AND THEY MUST HAVE AN ACTIVE BUSINESS LICENSE WITH THE CITY. LASTLY, THE SALES PERIOD FOR SAFE AND SAN FIREWORKS, UH, RUNS FROM NOON ON JUNE 28TH TO, UH, NOON ON JUNE ON JULY 5TH. STRUGGLED TO GET THAT OUT. UH, AND SALES TAKE PLACE DAILY DURING THIS PERIOD BETWEEN 8:00 AM AND 10:00 PM SO THE USE OF SAFE INSANE FIREWORKS ARE PERMITTED AT FOUR DESIGNATED PARKS, WHICH I MENTIONED ON JULY 4TH, ONLY FROM 10:00 AM TO 10:00 PM THOSE PARKS ARE ALAMO CREEK PARK, DUBLIN SPORTS GROUNDS, EMERALD GLEN PARK AND SHANNON PARK. FURTHERMORE, THE CITY'S PRACTICE ALLOWS FOR THE USE OF SAFE AND SANE FIREWORKS IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS WITH SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, AS WELL AS COMMERCIAL AREAS WITH THE CONSENT OF THE PROPERTY OWNER. SAFE AND SANE FIREWORKS ARE ONLY ALLOWED TO BE USED DURING THE DESIGNATED SALES PERIOD. AGAIN, ILLEGAL FIREWORKS IS DEFINED BY STATE LAW, ARE STRICTLY PROHIBITED AT ALL TIMES IN THE CITY. SO DUBLIN POLICE SERVICES IS RESPONSIBLE FOR FIREWORKS RESPONSE AS WELL AS SUPPRESSION, UH, POLICE ACTIVITIES. SO ANNUALLY, DPS UTILIZES A SUPPRESSION DETAIL TO RESPOND TO FIREWORKS COMPLAINTS, PROVIDES SECURITY AT OUR DESIGNATED PARKS, AND THEN PROACTIVELY SEEK ILLEGAL FIREWORKS USE. THE DETAIL IS STAFFED ON OVERTIME AND IS SUPPORTED BY ALAMEDA COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE. UM, IN 2025. THE SUPPRESSION DETAIL CONSISTED OF 21 PERSONNEL IN ADDITION TO THE STANDARD PATROL. AND ON AVERAGE, DPS RECEIVES APPROXIMATELY 55 CALLS FOR SERVICE EACH YEAR RELATED TO EITHER ILLEGAL FIREWORKS NOISE ISSUES, UH, POTENTIALLY THE IMPROPER USE OF SAFE AND SANE FIREWORKS, AS WELL AS PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERNS. ADDITIONALLY, SUPPRESSION DETAILS HAVE CONFISCATED MORE THAN 1600 POUNDS OF ILLEGAL FIREWORKS SINCE 2020. AND IN 2025, THE SUPPRESSION TEAM CONFISCATED 100 POUNDS OF ILLEGAL FIREWORKS. ALAMEDA COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENT ALSO PLAYS AN IMPORTANT ROLE IN BOTH THE SALE OF SAFE AND SANE FIREWORKS, AS WELL AS EMERGENCY RESPONSE RELATED TO FIREWORKS. [01:10:01] A CFD IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE BOOTH APPLICATION PROCESS INSPECTION, AND REGULATION OF FIREWORKS BOOTHS AND OVERALL CODE ENFORCEMENT FOR THE OPERATION OF THESE BOOTHS. A CFD IS ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR EMERGENCY RESPONSE, WHICH, UH, WHICH DOES STRAIN RESOURCES IN THE EVENT OF ANY, YOU KNOW, ACTIVE LARGE MUTUAL AID FIRES THAT ARE, UM, OCCURRING IN THE STATE AT THE TIME. SINCE 2020, THERE HAVE BEEN FOUR DOCUMENTED FIRE INCIDENTS IN NON-DESIGNATED PARK AREAS. THERE HAVE BEEN TWO VEGETATION FIRES, ONE CAUSED BY ILLEGAL OR IMPROPER USE AND OR DISPOSAL OF THE SAFE, INSANE FIREWORKS. AND THEN ONE TREE FIRE THAT WAS THE RESULT OF ILLEGAL FIREWORKS. NO INJURIES OR STRUCTURAL DAMAGE WAS REPORTED FROM THESE FIRES. IN ADDITION TO THESE INCIDENTS, A CFD ALSO EXTINGUISH EXTINGUISHES FIREWORKS FIREWORK RELATED DUMPSTER FIRES AT OUR DESIGNATED PARKS, UM, EACH YEAR DURING THE JULY 4TH PERIOD. SO THERE IS A FINANCIAL IMPACT TO THE SALE OF SAFE AND INSANE FIREWORKS IN THE CITY AS WELL. UH, THE TABLE ON THE SCREEN ILLUSTRATES THE 2025 CITY EXPENDITURES AS WELL AS REVENUES. SO TOTAL EXPENDITURES INCLUDE DIRECT PERSONNEL EXPENSES AND OPERATIONAL SUPPORT ACROSS DEPARTMENTS THAT PROVIDE PUBLIC SAFETY, MAINTENANCE, PERMITTING, AND INSPECTION SERVICES, AS WELL AS GENERAL ADMINISTRATION. OVERALL, THE CITY'S TOTAL EXPENDITURES WERE $79,707. UH, POLICE MADE UP APPROXIMATELY 51% OF THOSE EXPENDITURES. FIRE MAKES UP APPROXIMATELY 22%. UH, MAINTENANCE MAKES UP APPROXIMATELY 17%, AND THE REMAINDER FALLS WITHIN STREET SWEEPING, UM, A VI FOR THE TRASH BINS OR GARBAGE BINS, UM, STAFF TIME. AND THEN, UM, AS WELL LOST REVENUE DUE TO FACILITY CLOSURE. SPECIFICALLY AT THE SHANNON COMMUNITY CENTER. THE CITY DOES BRING IN REVENUE AS WELL FROM BOOTH APPLICATION FEES AND DEPOSITS. AND SO THIS YEAR IN 2025, THE CITY BROUGHT IN $5,535 IN REVENUE. SO IT LEADS TO A NET CITY COST OF 74,172 FOR THE 2025 PERIOD. OKAY, SO THAT WAS A SUMMARY OF THE CITY'S CURRENT PROGRAMS, BUT I DO WANT TO ALSO HIGHLIGHT THE NONPROFITS THAT APPLY TO OPERATE BOOSTS IN THE CITY. SO EACH YEAR, THE CITY APPROVES APPROXIMATELY 15 BOOSTS FOR THE SALE OF SAFE, INSANE FIREWORKS. AND WHILE THE CITY DOES NOT COLLECT INFORMATION ON THE SALES FROM NONPROFITS OVER RECENT YEARS, SOME ORGANIZATIONS HAVE SHARED THIS WITH STAFF THAT THEY ARE FACING CHALLENGES. SO THESE CHALLENGES CAN INCLUDE DECLINING NET REVENUES DUE TO THE HIGH OPERATING COST, UH, WHICH INCLUDE RENTAL SPACE, GENERATORS, EQUIPMENT, ET CETERA. FIREWORK PRODUCTS, UH, REVENUE GENERATED ALSO APPEARS TO VARY BY BOOTH LOCATION, WHERE IT'S BEEN REPORTED TO STAFF THAT OBVIOUSLY IN HIGHER TRAFFIC AREAS YOU'RE GONNA HAVE HIGHER REVENUES, LOWER TRAFFIC AREAS, YOU'LL HAVE LOWER REVENUES. SOME ORGANIZATIONS HAVE ALSO REPORTED DIFFICULTY IN FINDING ENOUGH VOLUNTEERS TO RUN THE BOOTH, LEADING TO ORGANIZATIONS PARTNERING TO ENSURE ADEQUATE VOLUNTEER SUPPORT. UM, AND THAT HAS BASICALLY KEPT THE NUMBER OF BOOTH APPLICATIONS FAIRLY STAGNANT OVER THE YEARS. LASTLY, SOME ORGANIZATIONS ARE FINDING IT MORE DIFFICULT TO FIND LOCATIONS FOR FIREWORK BOOTHS. THIS IS LIKELY DUE TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF PREVIOUSLY VACANT COMMERCIAL SITES, AS WELL AS INCREASED RENT PRICES. FURTHERMORE, SOME PROPERTY OWNERS CURRENTLY ALLOW, UH, ALLOWING BOOST HAVE SHARED WITH STAFF THAT THEY'RE CONSIDERING REMOVING RENTAL ACCESS IN FUTURE YEARS, WHICH WOULD HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE AMOUNT OF SITES AVAILABLE. I HAD ALSO LIKE TO SHARE SOME IDENTIFIED ENVIRONMENTAL AND COMMUNITY IMPACTS FROM THE USE OF FIREWORKS. SO FIRE RISK REMAINS THE CITY'S MOST SIGNIFICANT CONCERN DURING SUMMER MONTHS, PRIMARILY DUE TO OUR PROXIMITY TO WILDLAND, UM, AREAS AS WELL AS SIGNIFICANT SUMMER WEATHER CONDITIONS, EXTREME HEAT, LOW RELATIVE HUMIDITY, AS WELL AS STRONG WINDS. ALL OF THESE CONDITIONS INCREASE THE RISK OF FAST MOVING VEGETATION OR STRUCTURE FIRES IN THE AREA DURING THIS PERIOD. FIREWORKS ALSO CAN CREATE SECONDARY IMPACTS TO THE COMMUNITY, SUCH AS NOISE RELATED DISRUPTIONS FOR VETERANS AND OTHER SENSITIVE POPULATIONS, STRESS AND HARM TO PETS AND WILDLIFE AND LIGHT POLLUTION. UH, AND ALSO THEN TO GET A BETTER PICTURE OF HOW DUBLIN'S PROGRAM OPERATES IN THE BAY AREA, STAFF ALSO RESEARCHED SURROUNDING CITIES. SO OVERALL, THERE ARE 10 CITIES IN THE BAY AREA THAT ALLOW THE SALE OF SAFE AND INSANE FIREWORKS, AND THEY'RE LISTED IN THE CHART ON THE SCREEN. NEWARK AND UNION CITY ARE THE ONLY TWO JURISDICTIONS IN ALAMEDA COUNTY THAT ALLOW SAFE AND SANE FIREWORKS, UH, AND THEY ARE VERY COMPARABLE TO DUBLIN. SO THAT'S REALLY WHERE STAFF FOCUSED. BOTH NEWARK AND UNION CITY ALLOW THE SALE OF SAFE AND SANE FIREWORKS AT BOOST THROUGHOUT THEIR COMMUNITY. SIMILAR TO DUBLIN, THEY BOTH HAVE FIREWORK SUPPRESSION DETAILS WITH SIMILAR RESPONSIBILITIES TO DUBLIN, AND THEN THEY BOTH CONTRACT FIRE SUPPRESSION SERVICES THROUGH A CFD AS WELL. UH, I DO WANNA HIGHLIGHT JUST A COUPLE OF NOTABLE DIFFERENCES, UM, BETWEEN THESE COMMUNITIES IN DUBLIN. SO NEWARK CITY COUNCIL ESTABLISHED A PROCESS WHERE FIREWORKS BOOSTS WERE CAPPED AND THEN THEY DECREASE THROUGH ATTRITION WHEN AN ORGANIZATION CHOOSES NOT TO RENEW THEIR PERMIT OR, UH, THEY NO LONGER MEET THE CITY'S REQUIREMENTS. DUBLIN'S CAP IS BASED, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER ON THE POPULATION, SO IT INCREASES AND DECREASES BASED ON THE POPULATION OF THE CITY. NEWARK ALSO INCLUDES, UH, ILLEGAL FIREWORKS AND THEIR SOCIAL HOST ORDINANCE, ALLOWING POLICE TO CITE THE PROPERTY OWNER WHERE ILLEGAL [01:15:01] FIREWORKS ARE SEEN TO BE USED TO COMPARE DOUBLE DUBLIN'S. UH, SOCIAL HOST ORDINANCE ONLY COVERS UNDERAGE DRINKING AND DOES NOT INCLUDE FIREWORKS. UNION CITY DIFFERS FROM DUBLIN WITH THEIR FEE STRUCTURE AS THEY CHARGE PERMIT FEES BASED ON A PERCENTAGE OF GROSS REVENUE, UH, FROM THE SALES OF FIREWORKS. DUBLIN HAS A SET INSPECTION AND APPLICATION FEE, AND THEN UNION CITY CALCULATES THIS TO AN ESTIMATION OF REASONABLE CITY COSTS TO ADMINISTER PERMITS AND TO THEN OPERATE THE PROGRAM. AND THEN THEY DIVIDE THAT BY THE GROSS REVENUES DERIVED FROM THE SALES OF FIREWORKS IN THE CITY OF THE PREVI FOR THE PREVIOUS YEAR. SO WHILE THIS REPORT IS INFORMATIONAL ONLY, IT DOES RAISE POTENTIAL AREAS THE CITY MAY CONSIDER IN THE FUTURE TO ENHANCE SAFETY AND HELP RECOVER THE CITY'S EXPENSES RELATED TO FIREWORKS MANAGEMENT. SO THESE INCLUDE IMPLEMENTING A NEW FEE STRUCTURE FOR PERMIT FEES THAT COULD BE STRUCTURED TO ALIGN WITH THE CITY'S COSTS, WHICH IS SIMILAR TO WHAT UNION CITY HAS DONE. IT COULD INCLUDE EXPANDING THE CURRENT SOCIAL HOST ORDINANCE TO ASSIGN RESPONSIBILITY TO PROPERTY OWNERS AND ASSESS FINES ACCORDINGLY. AND ALSO CAPPING THE NUMBER OF BOOSTS TO ALLOW FOR CURRENT NONPROFITS TO MAINTAIN THEIR SALES BOOTH, WHILE ALSO CONTROLLING THE EXPANSION OF FIREWORKS IN THE COMMUNITY. SO THAT CONCLUDES, UH, THE INFORMATIONAL PRESENTATION AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO RECEIVE THE PORT AND WE RECEIVE THE REPORT, EXCUSE ME, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, JORDAN. THAT'S A VERY COMPREHENSIVE STUDY. UM, START WITH THE QUESTIONS. THE BUTTON WASN'T WORKING THERE FOR A SECOND. UM, THANK YOU FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE REPORT. UM, A FEW QUESTIONS. UM, THE FINANCIAL ANALYSIS THAT WAS UP THERE ARE ALL OF THOSE COSTS, MOST PARTICULARLY FIRE AND POLICE STRICTLY DUE TO SAFE AND SANE FIREWORKS? NOT STRICTLY. SO FIRE WILL BE, THE MAJORITY OF IT WILL BE BECAUSE IT'S REALLY GONNA BE YOUR INSPECTION SERVICES, CODE ENFORCEMENT, UM, SERVICES. THE POLICE NUMBER THOUGH, LIKE, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT SUPPRESSION DETAILS MM-HMM . THOSE TOTALS WILL BE IMPACTED BY LOOKING FOR ILLEGAL FIREWORKS AS WELL. OKAY. AND THE, THE SUPPRESSION NUMBER, THE POLICE NUMBER INCLUDED THAT SUPPRESSION DETAIL? CORRECT. OKAY. UM, ALRIGHT, THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. UM, THE, I KNOW WE'VE ASKED THIS IN THE PAST, AND THIS IS I THINK THE THIRD TIME WE'VE TALKED ABOUT FIREWORKS SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE DAIS. UM, WE HAVE NOT SEEN AN INCREASE IN ILLEGAL FIREWORKS IN THE CITY OF DUBLIN, UM, COMPARED TO OUR SURROUNDING CITIES. IS THAT CORRECT? I COULDN'T SPEAK DIRECTLY TO OUR SURROUNDING CITIES. I CAN SAY, UH, IN 2020 WE DID CONFISCATE, I BELIEVE A THOUSAND POUNDS WORTH OF ILLEGAL FIREWORKS. SINCE THEN, IT'S BEEN FAIRLY CONSISTENT YEAR OVER YEAR. UM, SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE SEEING A, A INCREASE YEAR OVER YEAR IN DUBLIN NECESSARILY. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THE CHIEF WANTS TO SPEAK TO OTHER COMMUNITIES. UM, YEAH, I I I WE'VE HAD THAT, I KNOW YOU PROBABLY DON'T HAVE THAT REWARD IN FRONT OF YOU. WE'VE HAD THAT QUESTION ASKED IN THE PAST, AND THE, THE ANSWER WE GOT WAS THAT, UM, OUR, UH, THE, THE CALLS FOR SERVICE BASED ON ILLEGAL FIREWORKS AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS COMPARABLE TO SURROUNDING CITIES IS AND, AND MAYBE SOMETIMES EVEN LOWER. IS THAT, IS THAT A, DO I HAVE THAT RIGHT? DO I REMEMBER THAT CORRECTLY? UH, VICE MAYOR, I DON'T HAVE THE, THE INFO THIS FOR THE SURROUNDING CITIES. I CAN TELL YOU FROM WORKING THESE DETAILS PREVIOUSLY WHEN I WAS ASSIGNED HERE, UM, OUR ARREST NUMBERS ARE ABOUT THE SAME. THEY'RE VERY LOW. UM, THE AMOUNT OF FIREWORKS THAT WE SEIZE EVERY YEAR IS PRETTY CONSISTENT, AND A LOT OF THE FIREWORKS THAT WE DO SEIZE COME FROM UNDERCOVER OPERATIONS WITH OUR DETECTIVES. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY ALWAYS PICKING UP THE FIREWORKS OFF THE STREET, BUT, UM, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SURROUNDING AGENCIES ARE PICKING UP OKAY. OR WHAT THEIR NUMBERS ARE. ALL RIGHT. UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY RECOLLECTION OF THOSE REPORTS THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST? OKAY, THANK YOU. UM, I, THE 2020 YEAR WE TALKED ABOUT IT THEN, UM, BECAUSE EVERYBODY IN CALIFORNIA WAS APPALLED BY THE ILLEGAL FIREWORKS, AND IT WAS BECAUSE OF ALL THE PROFESSIONAL SHOWS BEING CANCELED AND THE BLACK MARKET BEING FLOODED WITH, UM, THE ILLEGAL FIREWORKS. AND SO THAT, I'M, I'M, THAT WAS AN ANOMALY MM-HMM . UM, SO I'M, I'M NOT, THAT'S NOT THE NUMBER THAT I WANT US TO ALL BE THINKING ABOUT SO MUCH. CORRECT. IT'S MORE THE CURRENT YEARS MM-HMM . UM, OKAY. THANK YOU. THE, UM, YOU SAID THAT THE CAP IS BASED, THE, THE, THE NUMBER OF BOOSTS GOES UP AND DOWN, BUT I THINK WHAT YOU MEANT WAS THE CAP GOES UP AND DOWN BASED ON THE POPULATION, CORRECT? CORRECT. THE CAP. THE CAP, THE ALLOWABLE NUMBER OF BOOSTS, OUR CAP, UHHUH IS BASED ON THE, IS BASED ON THE POPULATION. IT'S ONE PER EVERY 3000, UH, MINUS ANYBODY IN GROUP QUARTERS. AND THE, THE LAST FEW YEARS HAVE WE HAD ENOUGH BOOTHS THAT WE WERE BUMPING UP AGAINST THAT CAP SO THAT WE HAD TO DO THE LOTTERY DRAW? WE HAVE NOT, NO. DO YOU REMEMBER WHEN THE LAST YEAR WE HAD TO DO THE LOTTERY DRAW? WAS, I BELIEVE IT WAS IN 2015, WAS THE LAST TIME WE DID THE LOTTERY DRAW. OKAY. AND LAST YEAR WE HAD 15 BOOTHS, IS THAT RIGHT? 15 SELECTED, 16 APPLIED. AND THERE WERE, HOW MANY COULD WE HAVE HAD? HOW MANY COULD WE HAVE HAD BASED ON THE CAP? UH, 23. 23. OKAY. THANK YOU. [01:20:01] UM, AND THEN, UH, THE, THE BOOTH LOCATIONS FOR EACH NONPROFIT, HOW WERE THOSE BOOTHS SELECTED? THE LOCATIONS? YOU, YOU HAD A SLIDE THAT TALKED ABOUT THE LOCATIONS. YEAH. AND, UM, I'LL LET BONNIE COME UP AND ANSWER THAT. OKAY. CHIEF TARA, SHE, I THINK WILL HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT SPECIFICALLY. OKAY. GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL DIVISION CHIEF TARA WITH THE EMILY COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENT. UM, THE CITY DOES NOT, UM, DICTATE BOOTHS. THOSE ARE ESTABLISHED BETWEEN THE FIREWORKS PROVIDER AND THE ORGANIZATIONS, OR THE ORGANIZATIONS THEMSELVES SECURE THEIR BOOTH LOCATIONS. WHAT WE DO IS WHEN THE BOOTH LOCATIONS ARE SUBMITTED, WE ENSURE THAT THE LOCATION MEETS THE REGULATION STANDARDS FOR DISTANCES FROM THINGS LIKE GASOLINE PUMPS, BUILDINGS, UM, LITHIUM ION, BATTERY CHARGING STATIONS, THOSE TYPES OF, UM, THINGS. BUT WE DO NOT PICK OR DETERMINE WHERE THE BOOTH LOCATIONS ARE. AND OBVIOUSLY THE PROPERTY OWNERS HERE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY DETERMINE WHETHER THEY WANT A BOOTH ON THEIR PROPERTY OR NOT. OKAY. UM, AND, UH, WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THE ORDINANCE ITSELF WAS UPDATED? WAS THAT 82? DO I HAVE THAT RIGHT? UH, THE ORDINANCE, THERE WERE MULTIPLE AMENDMENTS THAT HAD HAPPENED OVER THE YEARS. UM, NOT SPECIFICALLY JUST IN 1982. OKAY. UM, I DON'T HAVE THAT EXACT INFORMATION IN FRONT OF ME RIGHT NOW, THOUGH. I APOLOGIZE. THE LAST UPDATE I SAW IN WRITING ON HERE WAS 82, BUT YOU THINK THERE WAS THINGS THAT WERE UPDATED SINCE THEN? THERE WERE MULTIPLE, OR THERE WERE MULTIPLE AMENDMENTS THAT OCCURRED? LEMME PULL IT UP. MY, MY RECOLLECTION IS THAT THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF AMENDMENTS, BUT THEY'RE MAINLY RELATED TO THE, THE WAY THE FIREWORKS, UH, SALES PERMITS PROCESS WORKS. YOU KNOW, WHO'S QUALIFYING AND THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, THERE THE FUNDAMENTALS AROUND, UH, SAFE AND SANE FIREWORKS HAVEN'T CHANGED. THAT'S 82. DOES THAT SOUND RIGHT? YEAH, THAT SOUNDS RIGHT. OKAY. IT APPEARS THAT THE MOST RECENT UPDATE WAS IN 2012. OKAY. OKAY. THAT'S IT FOR MY QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD QUESTIONS ANYMORE? GOOD. UM, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. UH, JUST GOT ONE QUESTION, UH, KIND OF DOVETAILING OFF OF, UH, THE VICE MAYOR'S QUESTIONS. IS THERE, DO WE HAVE THE CAPACITY TO, UH, BREAK OUT THE SUPPRESSION DETAIL ON, FOR POLICE AND FIRE BETWEEN ILLEGAL AND LEGAL, UH, ACTIVITIES OR FIREWORKS RATHER? UM, SO COUNCIL MEMBER CADRE, SO WE ALREADY DO THAT. SO PART OF OUR SUPPRESSION DETAIL, UH, GOES TO COVER FOUR PARKS OR SAFE AND SANE FIREWORKS ARE BEING, UM, USED. SO WE TYPICALLY, UM, I THINK WE PUT ABOUT TWO OFFICERS AT EACH PARK. SO PART OF THAT SUPPRESSION DOES COVER THE SAFE AND SANE. GOT IT. OKAY. SO TWO PER FOUR, SO EIGHT OFFICERS DURING THAT 12 HOUR WINDOW? THAT'S CORRECT. ROUGHLY. OKAY. UH, CAN I PIGGYBACK? SURE. QUESTION. UM, BUT THE POLICE COSTS FOR SAFE, INSANE FIREWORKS ARE MORE THAN JUST THOSE OFFICERS AT THE PARK THE NIGHT OF FIREWORKS. RIGHT. AND SO I THINK, FEEL FREE TO CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I THINK YOUR QUESTION WAS, UM, REALLY FOR THE, THE, UH, POLICE COST ASSOCIATED WITH FIREWORKS MM-HMM . UM, CAN WE GET A FULL BREAKDOWN OF, YOU KNOW, THIS IS HOW MUCH IT COSTS FOR POLICE SERVICES TO SUPPORT SAFE AND SANE FIREWORKS? YEAH. I THINK WE, WE PUT TOGETHER, I KNOW CAPTAIN CAMPOS PUT TOGETHER A, UH, SHEET DETAILING ALL THE COSTS, INCLUDING COSTS FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, INSPECTIONS AND STUFF, OR ANY, ANY TYPES OF RESPONSE TO A FIREWORKS BOOTH. MM-HMM . AND ALSO INCLUDING, UM, THE STAFF THAT WAS DEDICATED TO SUPPRESSION ON THE DAY OF 4TH OF JULY. I SEE. OKAY. SO WE MAY HAVE JUST MISUNDERSTOOD YOUR ANSWER, . OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MICHAEL. YEAH, THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, WHAT, UH, WHAT HAS PREVENTED US, UH, FROM, AND YOU MAY HAVE MENTIONED THIS, BUT I WASN'T CLEAR ON THIS, UH, REQUIRING OR, OR ENFORCING A, A REPORTING MECHANISM FROM THE NONPROFITS. WHY HAVE WE NOT BEEN, LET ME REPHRASE IT. THAT'S WHERE I WANNA GO, BUT WHY HAVE WE NOT, UH, UM, RECEIVED GOOD INFORMATION OVER THE YEARS? BECAUSE ESSENTIALLY, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BREAKOUTS OR NOT ON THE DATA, UH, WE ARE, UH, WE ARE SUBSIDIZING THIS PROCESS BY $74,000 A YEAR, WHICH, WHICH IS GREAT. UM, BUT I WOULD THINK THAT WE'D WANT TO BE ABLE TO PINPOINT WHAT THOSE BENEFITS ARE TO THE COMMUNITY. AND I KNOW, UM, THE COMMUNITY FOR, OBVIOUSLY FOR MANY YEARS, THIS HAS BEEN A, A VERY, VERY GOOD REVENUE SOURCE, UH, [01:25:01] TO SUPPORT THE SCHOOLS. SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IS, IS ALSO, IS TO, UH, SEE HOW SUCCESSFUL WE CAN, UH, BE IN REQUIRING, UH, WHETHER IT'S THE, UH, HOW, WHEREVER THAT INFORMATION'S COMING FROM, WHETHER IT'S THE, THE, UH, FIREWORKS PROVIDER OR THE NONPROFITS. AND, UH, I KNOW THAT THEY KNOW HOW MUCH THEY'RE MAKING, UH, BUT WE'D LIKE, I'D LIKE TO SEE KIND OF A GROSS REVENUE, UH, OR, OR SOMETHING THAT SAYS, HEY, LOOK, WE'RE, WE'RE, UH, WILLING TO PROVIDE THIS. THIS IS, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PUTTING UP AS A CITY, AND, UH, HERE'S, HERE'S HOW IT'S BENEFITING OUR, OUR SCHOOLS. AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE, UM, A FIRST START AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED. UM, THE OTHER THING IS, UH, AND, AND I'M, I'M GOING TO DIGRESS AND SAY I THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT. I, I OFTEN FAIL TO THANK YOU, , AND I WANNA DO THAT BECAUSE YOU ACTUALLY IDENTIFIED, UM, A COUPLE OF COMPARATIVES. AND, UM, WHAT I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND IS WHAT DO YOU THINK, UH, THEIR RATIONALE OR HOW SUCCESSFUL HAVE BOTH NEWARK AND UNION CITY BEEN OVER THE YEAR, AND WHERE DO YOU THINK THEY'RE GOING, UH, ON THAT? I MEAN, I CAN SAY LIKE WITH UNION CITY SPECIFICALLY, UH, OR EXCUSE ME, NEWARK SPECIFICALLY WITH THE CAP, AND, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY REDUCING THE NUMBER OF BOOSTS TO ATTRITION MM-HMM . I BELIEVE THEY'VE REDUCED BY TWO OR THREE BOOSTS OVER THE PAST, GOSH, HOW MANY YEARS IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN FIVE PLUS YEARS. SO THERE HAS BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF AN ATTRITION THERE. THE CAP WAS ORIGINALLY SET AT 14, I BELIEVE THEY'RE DOWN TO 12 OR 11 BOOTHS AT THIS POINT. MM-HMM . SO THAT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL FOR WHAT I GUESS THEIR COUNCIL WAS GOING FOR. UM, I, I COULDN'T REALLY SPEAK TO HOW SUCCESSFUL UNION CITY'S BEEN WITH, WITH THEIR SPECIFIC, UH, FEE STRUCTURE. YEAH. UM, I, YOU KNOW, WE'D HAVE TO REACH OUT TO THEM AND, AND REALLY SIT DOWN, WHAT, WHAT ARE, YEAH. OR HOW MUCH ARE THEY SUBSIDIZING OR, YOU KNOW, YEAH. WE WOULD'VE, WE'D HAVE TO REACH OUT TO THEM DIRECTLY TO GET THAT, THAT DETAILED INFORMATION, WHICH WE'RE HAPPY TO DO IF, UM, I, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. UM, AND THEN, UM, I THINK THAT'S, THOSE ARE THE, THE BASIC QUESTIONS FOR NOW THAT I'LL, I MIGHT HAVE A COUPLE MORE LATER, BUT THANK YOU. YEAH. SO, JOHN, COUNCIL MEMBER MARADA, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UM, YES. I, IF I MAY, JUST TWO VERY QUICK QUESTIONS FOR JORDAN. UM, UH, JORDAN. GREAT. GREAT. UH, RESEARCH AND, AND IN DEPTH, UH, THE FIRST QUESTION IS, UM, AS A CITY, UH, FUNDAMENTALLY WE PROVIDE THIS AS A SERVICE CORRECT. TO, TO OUR RESIDENTS, BOTH THE FIREWORKS PERMITTING PROCESS AS WELL AS THE, UH, COORDINATE OFF AREA FOR WHERE FIREWORKS CAN BE LIT OFF IN THE PARKS, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION. AND THEN, UH, SECOND QUESTION IS, UH, DURING THE EVALUATION, AND, AND, UH, ACTUALLY, LET ME TAKE A STEP BACK. I, I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH, UH, COUNCILMAN HORTEN BECAUSE HE AND I COME FROM A VERY SIMILAR BUSINESS BACKGROUND. SO WE'RE ALWAYS ABOUT KPIS AND METRICS. UM, BUT TO THAT POINT, WHICH I'M LEADING INTO JORDAN, UH, WE AS A CITY DO NOT ENGAGE WITH THE APPLICANTS ON EITHER COMMERCIAL DISCUSSION AROUND FOOT TRAFFIC, SALES VOLUME, OR ANYTHING OF THAT SORT. CORRECT. WE, WE SIMPLY ACCEPT THE PERMIT PROCESS, TERM PERMIT AND PROVIDE A SERVICE. CORRECT. THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO REPORT ANYTHING BACK TO THE CITY, UM, SPECIFICALLY SURROUNDING THEIR SALES. OKAY. OKAY. UM, THANK YOU. THEREFORE, I, UM, I, I, I THINK IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT, YOU KNOW, AS A CITY, UH, AGAIN, WE PROVIDE A SERVICE, UM, THE DATA AROUND, UH, THE COMMERCIAL ASPECTS OF RUNNING A BOOTH AND THE NUMBER OF BOOTHS, THOSE ARE ALL EXTRA DATA POINTS. UM, BUT MAYBE AT, AT SOME POINT IT BECOMES A DELIBERATION AS TO DO THOSE BECOME POINTS OF DISCUSSION AND ADJUDICATION AS WE, YOU KNOW, LOOK FURTHER ABOUT THE SUPPORT OF THIS SERVICE. UH, BUT AS OF NOW, I, I'M GOING TO JUST SAY THAT THIS, PROVIDE THIS, CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE. IT, IT WAS A GREAT REPORT. UM, BUT WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO LOOK AT, UH, VOLUME OF, OF SALES AS A DETERMINING FACTOR FOR THE NUMBER OF BOOTHS WE HAVE IN THE FUTURE. SO, THANK YOU, JORDAN. YOUR REPORT IS ACCEPTED AND I APPRECIATE IT, COUNCIL MEMBER. SO THANK YOU. GOOD WORK. SO, I, I, I ACTUALLY KNOW SOME DATA POINTS, I'LL SAY. SO I THINK A, SOME NUMBER OF NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS, THEY MADE A SIGNIFICANT, UH, REVENUE FROM THESE SALES, UM, BECAUSE THEY, [01:30:01] THEY, SOMETIMES THEY REACH OUT TO ME, AND ACTUALLY I WAS A VOLUNTEER SELLING, UH, FIREWORKS IN THE PAST YEARS. SO I, I KINDA HAVE THAT INFORMATION. SO IT'S A SIGNIFICANT FOR NON-PROFIT FOR MANY OF THEM. AND ALSO, UM, ALSO DEPENDS BECAUSE IT'S NOT EASY TO SELL AS WELL. SO THAT'S WHY THE NUMBERS OF NONPROFIT APPLY FOR THESE PERMITS, LIKE REDUCED OVER YEARS, BECAUSE IT'S NOT EASY. BUT FOR SOME PFCS FOR THOSE, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A LOT OF, UM, ASSOCIATED, UH, SUPPORTING GROUPS, THEY DO RELY ON THIS. UM, SO I, I DO HAVE A QUESTION. AND THE QUESTION IS, UH, SO I SAY LIKE A, IT HAS BEEN ON BALLOT IN THE PAST A FEW TIMES, SO I'M JUST, UH, CURIOUS. SO IF WE WANT TO CHANGE ANYTHING, WE ALSO NEED TO GO TO THE BALLOT, IS THAT RIGHT? I'M GONNA LET JOHN ANSWER THAT QUESTION. YOU DON'T HAVE TO PLACE IT ON THE BALLOT, BUT, UH, IT'S BEEN DONE IN THE PAST TO INFORM THE CITY COUNCIL'S DECISION ABOUT IT. GO AHEAD. YEAH. UH, THAT'S, THAT'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. I'M JUST GONNA UNPACK IT SLIGHTLY. IT WAS ORIGINALLY, THE POLICY WAS ORIGINALLY ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. UM, SO IT CAN BE CHANGED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. I THINK IT'S BEEN CONTROVERSIAL IN THE PAST. UM, AND SO THE COUNCIL HAD PUT IT ON THE BALLOT AS AN ADVISORY MEASURE TO JUST ASK THE PUBLIC, HEY, DO YOU WANNA KEEP IT OR DO YOU WANT TO, DO YOU WANNA GET RID OF SAFE AND SANE FIREWORKS? UH, SO THAT'S WHY IT WAS ON THE BALLOT. IT WASN'T ACTUALLY AN INITIATIVE MEASURE, IT WAS JUST A, A QUESTION, DO YOU, DO YOU WANT TO RETAIN SAFE AND SANE FIREWORKS IN DUBLIN? OKAY. COOL. THANK YOU. SO THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS. AND DO WE HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENTS? UH, YES, MAYOR, I HAVE, UM, IT LOOKS LIKE SIX SPEAKERS ON THIS, UM, TOPIC, SOME HERE IN THE CHAMBER, AND ONE ON ZOOM. SO THE FIRST SPEAKER IS JAMES BOWLING. HI, UM, I'M JAMES BOWLING, AND, UH, I REPRESENT, UH, DUBLIN HIGH SCHOOL MUSIC BOOSTERS. UM, SO I'M JUST GONNA GO AHEAD AND SPEAK REALLY QUICKLY ABOUT REVENUE. IT IS A MAJOR REVENUE SOURCE FOR US, UM, FOR US. I'LL GIVE YOU SOME SPECIFICS SINCE YOU WERE KIND OF ASKING. UM, NET REVENUE FOR US IS ABOUT $25,000 A YEAR. WHAT DOES THAT DO? THAT ALLOWS OUR BAND TO GO DOWN TO FRESNO FOR A TWO DAY COMPETITION, UH, TO COMPETE WITH ALL BANDS FROM ACROSS CALIFORNIA AND NEVADA AND OREGON. IT'S A HUGE COMPETITION THAT THEY DO. WITHOUT THAT REVENUE, WE'RE NOT GOING. UM, AND IT ALSO MAKES UP 25% OF ALL FUNDRAISING THAT WE DO. SO IT WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT CUT WITHIN OUR PROGRAM. THE OTHER ISSUE WOULD ALSO BE, AND I WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF PUT SOME THINGS INTO PERSPECTIVE. THAT'S OUR PERSPECTIVE AND WHAT IT WOULD DO TO OUR ORGANIZATION. UM, YOUR GUYS' BUDGET IS $171 MILLION. FROM WHAT I READ UP ON YOUR WEBSITE, THAT'S 75,000 IS FOUR TENTHS, I'M SORRY, FOUR, ONE HUNDREDS OF A PERCENT OF YOUR OVERALL BUDGET. THAT TO ME, IS NOT A VERY SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS FOR THE CITY. I DO APPRECIATE THAT YOU GUYS BEING FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE AS I AM AS WELL. UM, HOWEVER, I WOULD IMPLORE YOU TO NOT LOOK AT THIS AS AN EXPENSE, BUT TO LOOK AT THIS AS AN INVESTMENT ON THE CHILDREN AND THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT SERVE YOUR COMMUNITY. THAT'S THE PERSPECTIVE I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU GUYS TO THINK ABOUT BEFORE YOU MAKE ANY TYPE OF DECISIONS. UM, TO ADD A FEE, YOU GUYS WERE TALKING ABOUT ADDING IT TO THE GROSS, IF THERE WAS A FEE TO COVER UP THAT COST, I'M JUST TELLING YOU THAT THAT WOULD PROBABLY CUT US, THAT WOULD CUT OUR REVENUE MADE FROM THE, BY THE BOOST BY ABOUT 10%. FROM WHAT I SAW IN THE REPORT, I SAW A POSSIBLE FEE BEING CHARGED. AND SO THAT I JUST KIND OF DID A QUICK THING ON HOW MUCH THAT WOULD ACTUALLY COST US. UM, AND ALSO TO KIND OF GO TO THE SAFETY, IF IN THE PAST TWO YEARS YOU'VE HAD TWO RESPONSES, AND ONE OF THEM WAS IMPROPER USE OR DISPOSAL OF SAFE, SOME SAFE AND SAME FIREWORKS, AND ONE WAS FOR ILLEGAL, I DON'T SEE A NECESSARY MEASURE TO BAN THEM AS, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT WOULD ACTUALLY REDUCE SAFETY CONCERNS THAT THE CITY HAS. I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS THAT THE CITY MAY HAVE, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT SAFETY IMPROVEMENT FOR THE CITY. 'CAUSE PEOPLE ARE STILL GOING TO BRING IN ILLEGAL FIREWORKS. I COME FROM MODESTO WHERE THEY LET OFF SAFE, INSANE FIREWORKS, BUT THOSE ARE WAY OUTNUMBERED [01:35:01] BY THE ILLEGAL ONES, . SO I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT'S NOT GONNA CHANGE A THING WHETHER YOU GET RID OF IT OR YOU DON'T. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THE NEXT SPEAKER IS MIKE GRANT. GOOD EVENING AGAIN, MIKE GRANT, LONGTIME RESIDENT. I'M CONCERNED YOU GET A HUNDRED POUNDS OF ILLEGAL FIREWORKS THAT YOU COMPENSATE. AND I, I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT, UH, WHY DON'T YOU GUYS START FINDING THESE PEOPLE $200 A POUND FOR EVERY POUND OF FIREWORKS YOU FIND ON 'EM, AND GIVE 'EM A LITTLE DETERRENT. THEY WON'T DO THAT ANYMORE AND STICK IT TO 'EM IN THE POCKETBOOK. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO MOST OF THE TIME TO US. SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO IT TO THEM. MAYBE THEY WON'T BRING THE FIREWORKS IN TOWN ANYMORE, NOT A BIG DEAL. CHIEF WOULD GO AHEAD AND WRITE THE TICKET TO 'EM, AND WE WILL HAUL 'EM AWAY TO SANTA RITA MOTEL, AND WE'LL COLLECT THE CASH FROM 'EM. THAT'S HOW WE'LL STOP THAT. SO AS FAR AS THE CITY, THE $74,000 TO THIS CITY'S CHUMP CHANGE, WE SEE IT ALL THE TIME. WE SPEND MORE MONEY. I SEE PEOPLE DRIVING AROUND WITH, UH, CARS GOING TO LUNCH, AND THESE LITTLE CARS HIDING OUT AND STUFF IN THE STREET. IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL, THE CITY CARS. SO IF WE CAN AFFORD TO DO THAT, WE CAN AFFORD TO LET THESE PEOPLE MAKE A PROFIT, JUST LIKE THE GENTLEMAN JUST SAID HERE FOR THE SCHOOL. JUST LEAVE IT ALONE, MOVE ON. LOOK FOR SOMETHING ELSE TO SAVE MONEY ON, LIKE GO AFTER MAYBE THESE PROTESTORS AND RAISE THEIR PERMIT FEES. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THE NEXT SPEAKER IS INGA HOUSTON. GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF. UM, BEFORE I START, I'M GONNA, UH, TALK FROM A BUSINESS POINT OF VIEW, BUT I, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT, UM, IN THE REVENUE FUNDING, UM, DID YOU TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE POTENTIAL SALES TAX INCOME THAT COMES IN ON THE SALES TAX THAT IS CHARGED ON THE, UM, FIREWORKS. SO IF THE FIREWORKS GO AWAY, THAT SALES TAX WILL GO DOWN? SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. UH, THE THING IS, IS, UH, MY NAME IS INGA HOUSTON. I'M PRESIDENT, CEO OF THE DUBLIN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. UM, I'M SPEAKING TONIGHT ON THE BEHALF OF THE BUSINESS, UM, COMMUNITY, UH, LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT INVEST IN THIS COMMUNITY, EMPLOYER, RESIDENTS, UM, AND PARTNER CLOSER WITH BOTH THE CITY AND THE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS. FROM A BUSINESS PERSPECTIVE, WITH A LAWFUL NONPROFIT FUNDRAISING MECHANISM, IF IT'S ELIMINATED, THE FINANCIAL NEED DOES NOT DISAPPEAR. IT SHIFTS AND THE SHIFT LANDS DIRECTLY ON LOCAL BUSINESSES. IF NONPROFITS LOSE A SIGNIFICANT SOURCE OF REVENUE, BUSINESSES WILL FACE INCREASED DONATION REQUESTS, SPONSORSHIP ASKS, AND EMERGENCY APPEALS TO FILL THAT GAP FOR SMALL AND MID-SIZED BUSINESSES ALREADY MANAGING RISING COSTS AND LABOR INSURANCE, RENT AND COMPLIANCE. THIS CREATES A FINANCIAL STRAIN. THIS IS NOT THEORETICAL, IT IS HOW FUNDING GAPS ARE FILLED. IF THE AVERAGE FIREWORK BOOTH NETS $30,000 TIMES 15 BOOTHS, THAT'S $450,000 THAT OUR NONPROFITS HERE IN DUBLIN ARE GOING TO BE SEEKING FROM OUR COMMUNITY. THE CITY'S SUPPORT OF FIREWORK SALES OVER THE YEARS HAS CREATED AWESOME FUNDRAISING OPPORTUNITIES, AND I APPLAUD THE CITY FOR, FOR THIS, UH, PROGRAM. AND ALSO IT'S A MULTI-GENERATIONAL FUNDRAISER. I ALSO WANNA EMPHASIZE THE ROLE NONPROFITS PLAY IN OUR, IN THE OVERALL BUSINESS CLIMATE NONPROFIT, UM, NONPROFITS PROVIDE YOUTH PROGRAMS, SAFETY EDUCATION, SCHOOL SUPPORT, FAMILY SUPPORT SERVICES, AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAT HELPS MAKE DUBLIN A PLACE WHERE BUSINESSES WANNA, WHERE BUSINESSES CAN ATTRACT EMPLOYEES, CUSTOMERS, AND INVESTMENT. WHEN NONPROFIT FUNDING IS REDUCED, PRESSURE SHIFTS BACK TO THE CITY AND THE PRIVATE SECTOR. THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY SUPPORT STRONG ENFORCEMENT AGAINST ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES, BUT WE DO NOT SUPPORT THE ELIMINATION OF A REGULATOR PROGRAM THAT IS WORKING AND SHIFTING UNINTENDED COSTS ONTO THE BUSINESS AND PUBLIC SAFETY RESOURCES. RESPECTFULLY, THE CHAMBER BELIEVES THE MOST EFFECTIVE PATH FORWARD IS TO PRESERVE THIS NONPROFIT FUNDRAISING ACTIVITY. THIS APPROACH PROTECTS COMMUNITY SERVICES AND AVOIDS PLACING ADDITIONAL FINANCIAL STRAIN ON DUBLIN BUSINESSES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THE NEXT SPEAKER [01:40:01] IS GARY LEACH. HI, MS. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL. THANKS FOR HAVING ME. I'M GARY LEACH. I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DOUBLET PARTNERS IN EDUCATION. MANY OF YOU KNOW THAT D PI HAS BEEN AROUND FOR ABOUT 30 YEARS. WE SUPPORT SCHOOLS WITH AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAMS AND NONPROFIT, OR EXCUSE ME, UH, SUMMER PROGRAMS. BUT WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE IS THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY, DIRECTLY TO THE STUDENTS FOR STUDENT PROGRAMS, TO THE SCHOOLS AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. THIS YEAR, THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, WE'LL BE GIVING $280,000 BACK TO THE SCHOOLS SCHOOL COMMUNITY, AND FOR SCHOOL PROGRAMS FOR FIREWORKS SPECIFICALLY, WE GAVE $19,000 TO MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL MUSIC PROGRAMS. WE LOVE MUSIC. WE LOVE MUSIC PROGRAMS. WE KNOW WHAT IT DOES FOR CHILDREN. WE KNOW NOT ONLY IS IT LIKE LEARNING A WHOLE FOREIGN LANGUAGE, AND SO IT REQUIRES A LOT OF THINKING AND SELF-CONFIDENCE TO BE ABLE TO PLAY MUSIC IN FRONT OF HUNDREDS OF PARENTS, BUT IT ALSO HELPS WITH ANXIETY. SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE STRESS THAT IS BOTH BECAUSE OF ACADEMIC STRESS AND PEER PRESSURE THAT OUR MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENTS AND HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS EXPERIENCE MUSIC IS A FANTASTIC OUTLET FOR THAT. THAT'S REALLY WHY DEEP, I REALLY STRONGLY SUPPORTS MUSIC PROGRAMS. SO THAT NIGHT, WHERE DID THAT $19,000 GO THAT WE GAVE TO THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS AND THE HIGH SCHOOL EMERALD HIGH SCHOOL THIS YEAR? I'LL TELL YOU WHERE IT WENT. SO, WELLS MIDDLE SCHOOL, UH, MR. B, AS THEY CALL HIM THE FANTASTIC MUSIC TEACHER, HE SAID BY US GIVING HIM MONEY, IT ALLOWED A COST TO HELP THEIR TRIP TO DISNEYLAND. SO LET'S PUT IT THIS WAY. MIDDLE SCHOOL KIDS PLAY IN A MARCHING BAND, GET THE DREAM OF MARCHING DOWN MAIN STREET IN DISNEYLAND AND PLAYING AT DISNEYLAND. THAT'S FANTASTIC. WE DON'T WANT THAT TO GO AWAY. UM, WHAT DOES IT ALSO DO? IT ALLOWED US TO GIVE A ELECTRIC GUITAR AND AN AMP TO A STUDENT WHO WAS LEARNING MUSIC AND LEARNING HOW TO PLAY GUITAR, AND SHE REALLY WANTED TO LEARN ELECTRIC GUITAR. SO THAT ALLOWED HER TO DO THAT. UM, WHAT IS IT DOING TO EMERALD HIGHS MUSIC PROGRAM? IT'S ALLOWING THAT BRAND NEW HIGH SCHOOL TO BE ABLE TO BUY INSTRUMENTS AND MUSICAL EQUIPMENT TO SUPPORT SCHOOLS. SO WHAT HAPPENS IF FIREWORKS GOES AWAY? UM, THAT $19,000 THAT WE GAVE TO THOSE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL PROGRAMS GOES AWAY. IT GOES AWAY. AND WE WILL TRY TO FIND OTHER WAYS TO MAKE UP THAT MONEY. BUT WE WANT AND DEEP, I WANTS TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT MUSIC PROGRAMS BECAUSE THE BENEFIT TO THE DUBLIN STUDENTS, THE CHILDREN OF DUBLIN, AND PARTICULARLY TO HELP THE ANXIETY AND, YOU KNOW, THE STRESS THAT KIDS ARE UNDER, MUSIC IS A FANTASTIC OUTLET. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THE NEXT SPEAKER IS DENNIS REL. GOOD EVENING MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. MY NAME IS DENNIS VAL, I'M PRESIDENT OF WITHOUT COMMUNICATIONS. AND FOR THE MORE THAN THREE DECADES I'VE WORKED WITH CALIFORNIA CITIES, COUNTIES, FIRE AGENCIES, LAW ENFORCEMENT, THE OFFICE OF THE STATE FIRE MARSHAL, UH, ON FIREWORKS, SAFETY ENFORCEMENT, AND PUBLIC EDUCATION. I SUBMITTED A DETAILED LETTER TO YOU REGARDING TONIGHT'S STAFF REPORT, AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRIEFLY SUMMARIZE ITS KEY POINTS. LET ME START WITH WHAT I BELIEVE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE, AND I WANT TO COMPLIMENT JORDAN FOR THE ADDITION IN THE POWERPOINT BECAUSE INITIALLY THE STAFF REPORT DID NOT CLEARLY DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THE IMPACTS CAUSED BY ILLEGAL FIREWORKS VERSUS THOSE ASSOCIATED WITH STATE FIRE MARSHAL APPROVED, SAFE AND SANE. THE DISTINCTION MATTERS BECAUSE IT DRIVES POLICY, IT DRIVES ENFORCEMENT, IT DRIVES THE STRATEGY, AND IT DRIVES THE COST ALLOCATION. THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF POLICE AND FIRE DEPLOYMENT COSTS DESCRIBED IN THE REPORT ARE DRIVEN BY ILLEGAL AERIAL FIREWORKS, NOT THE GROUND-BASED, SAFE AND SANE PRODUCTS SOLD BY DUBLIN'S NONPROFITS. THOSE ENFORCEMENT COSTS WOULD LARGELY REMAIN, EVEN IF DUBLIN BANNED SAFE AND SAME FIREWORKS ALTOGETHER. CITIES THAT HAVE DONE SO CAN ATTEST TO THAT. WHICH BRINGS ME TO COST OF RECOVERY. THE STAFF REPORT POINTS TO UNION CITIES A POTENTIAL MODEL. I WANNA MAKE VERY CLEAR ABOUT THE EXAMPLE. UNION CITY HAD PREVIOUSLY ATTEMPTED TO RECOVER ITS FULL 4TH OF JULY, POLICE AND FIRE DEPLOYMENT COSTS THROUGH PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS AND LEGAL ANALYSIS UNDER PROPOSITION 26 AND THE [01:45:01] SINCLAIR PAINT CASE, THE DECIS, THE DECISION, UH, WAS TO CHANGE THE APPROACH BECAUSE THE PREVIOUS, UH, APPROACH HAD IMPROPERLY SHIFTED. COSTS DRIVEN BY ILLEGAL ACTIVITY ONTO THE BACKS OF THE NONPROFITS. UNION CITY ULTIMATELY REFUNDED APPROXIMATELY $45,000 TO ITS COMMUNITY NONPROFITS. AND THE NONPROFITS THROUGH THE AB 1403 PAID APPROXIMATELY $38,000 THE LAST THREE YEARS EACH YEAR, UH, TO COVER, UH, TO HELP SUPPLEMENT AND COVER CITY COSTS. UNION CITY NOW RELIES ON AB 14, UH OH THREE, WHICH AUTHORIZES UP TO 7% SURCHARGE ON GROSS SALES TO FUND ENFORCEMENT WITHOUT REDUCING NONPROFIT PROCEEDS. EQUALLY IMPORTANT, DUBLIN CURRENTLY LACKS ONE OF THE MOST EFFECTIVE LOCAL ENFORCEMENT TOOLS THROUGHOUT CALIFORNIA, AND THAT'S A FIREWORKS SOCIAL HOST ORDINANCE WITH A STACKING PROVISION IN IT. I WOULD RESPECTFULLY SUGGEST THE CITY COUNCIL DIRECT STAFF TO FOCUS ON A FIREWORKS SOCIAL HOST ORDINANCE, AN ADMINISTRATIVE SIGN, EXCUSE ME, CITATION WITH STACKING AT A A THOUSAND DOLLARS PER VIOLATION PER DEVICE COST RECOVERY FROM THE VIOLATORS, AND A LAWFUL USE OF AB 1403 REVENUES, WHICH COULD RESULT IN AS MUCH AS $71,000 ANNUALLY FOR THE CITY, WITH NO IMPACT ON THE REVENUE GENERATED FOR THE NON-PRO PROFITS, PLUS ANOTHER $10,000 IN SALES TAX. I'M HAPPY TO RESPOND TO ANY. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I HAVE ONE SPEAKER ON ZOOM AND THAT IS SUMIT AGRAWAL. THANKS FOR HAVING ME. UM, CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME? PLEASE? GO AHEAD. OKAY. UM, MY NAME IS SAMITA GRAL. I'M A DUBLIN RESIDENT FOR OVER 13 YEARS, AND I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE TRI-VALLEY MINOR HOCKEY ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS A NONPROFIT THAT HAS SERVED THIS COMMUNITY FOR OVER 20 YEARS. WE SERVE YOUTH HOCKEY KIDS AGED SIX THROUGH 18 AND HELP KIDS BUILD A LOVE FOR HOCKEY, TEAMWORK AND DISCIPLINE. I, MYSELF, AM AN IMMIGRANT AT THE UNITED STATES AND NEVER SEEN ICE HOCKEY BEFORE I CAME HERE. AND THROUGH THIS CLUB, BOTH MY CHILDREN HAVE LEARNED TO PLAY ICE HOCKEY. I HAVE A 10-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER AND A 15-YEAR-OLD SON, AND BOTH ARE PROUD HOCKEY PLAYERS. TODAY, THE FUNDS WE RAISE, SUPPORT, TRAVEL, HOCKEY EQUIPMENT, AND ACCESS FOR MANY FAMILIES WHO OTHERWISE COULD NOT HAVE AFFORDED IT. THERE IS NO REPLACEMENT FUNDING SOURCES FOR THIS WORK. AND FIREWORKS IS BY FAR OUR LARGEST SINGLE FUNDRAISER. EVERY DOLLAR GOES BACK TO THE PROGRAM. I'VE PARTICIPATED IN THIS FUNDRAISING FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS, UM, AND I HAVE CELEBRATED IT MYSELF AT EMERALD PARK. ONE THING I CAN SAY FOR SURE, IT TRULY BRINGS OUR COMMUNITY TOGETHER. SO MY CALL TO ACTION IS SIMPLE ON THE MORNING OF 4TH OF JULY. PLEASE STOP BY THE FIREWORKS BOOTH. IT IS EASY TO FORGET THE POSITIVE VIBE AND THE CONNECTION THAT IT CREATES IN OUR COMMUNITIES, AND THAT IN THE PARKING LOT WITH THE BUDDHIST SET UP, I FULLY SUPPORT THE STRONG ENFORCEMENT AGAINST ILLEGAL FIREWORKS. ILLEGAL FIRES ARE A REAL PROBLEM, BUT I HOPE THAT THE COUNCIL DOES NOT PUNISH COMMUNITY NONPROFITS HERE FOR SOMETHING THEY DID NOT CREATE. PLEASE HELP US KEEP SAFE AND SANE FIREWORKS AND FOCUS THE ENFORCEMENT WHERE IT BELONGS, WHICH IS AN ILLEGAL FIREWORKS. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. THANK YOU. I HAVE NO MORE SPEAKERS SLIPS, MAYOR. YEAH, THANK YOU. WE'LL BRING BACK TO OUR COUNCIL FOR FURTHER, UM, DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM. YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD? SURE. UM, HAPPY TO GO FIRST. SO THANK YOU FOR THE, UH, TO THE SIX SPEAKERS, UM, FOR, FOR SHARING THEIR THOUGHTS. UM, UH, YEAH, SO I, I SEE, EXCUSE ME, I SEE FIREWORKS, UM, AS LIKE, AS A, AS A VERY AMERICAN THING. UH, YOU KNOW, APPLE PIE BASEBALL HOTDOG, IN MY CASE, VEGGIE HOTDOG. BUT, UM, UH, I, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE, I DON'T REALLY SEE THE NEED TO, UM, CHANGE WHAT WE HAVE GOING. I THINK THE SOCIAL HOST ORDINANCE PIECE OF IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD LOOK AT IN SPECIFICALLY AROUND THE ILLEGAL FIREWORKS AND, AND TRY TO CURTAIL THAT. I, UM, I ACTUALLY THINK GETTING RID OF SAFE AND SANE IS GONNA INCREASE ILLEGAL FIREWORKS 'CAUSE PEOPLE STILL WANNA CELEBRATE AND, AND IT'S GONNA CREATE MORE, MORE OF A FIRE RISK. UM, UH, SECOND POINT IS JUST AROUND, UH, KIND OF DIGGING INTO THE NUMBERS OF ILLEGAL FIREWORKS AND SOME OF THE SURROUNDING AREAS AND, AND KIND OF TRACKING THAT. I, I DON'T THINK DUBLIN IS IMMUNE TO THAT, UH, OR IT CLEARLY IS NOT. [01:50:01] UM, BUT I'D, I'D BE CONCERNED JUST, OR I, I WOULD, UH, I WOULD RECOMMEND JUST SORT OF TRACKING THOSE NUMBERS AND, AND MAKING SURE THAT THOSE AREN'T GOING UP WITHIN DUBLIN AND, AND IN SURROUNDING AREAS. UH, I THINK THE FEE STRUCTURE IS WORTH EXPLORING AT SOME POINT. UM, I THINK WE SHOULD GET A HANDLE ON, EVEN IF IT'S IN BALLPARK NUMBERS, WHAT TYPE OF COMMUNITY BENEFIT WE'RE PROVIDING THROUGH THIS. UM, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S IN THE RANGE OF 30 K TIMES 15, RIGHT? UH, $450,000, THAT'S GREAT. UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE DOING THE HARD WORK. THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE OUT THERE. IT'S LONG GRUELING, SOMETIMES HOT DAYS , UM, AND, AND, UH, AND IT'S A GREAT WAY TO SUPPORT IT. BUT IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, SINGLE DIGIT THOUSANDS TIMES 15 IS LIKE, WE'RE, WE'RE WASTING MONEY, RIGHT? LIKE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE WASTING 75 AND NOT CAPTURE, OR THE NONPROFITS AREN'T BEING ABLE TO, UM, TO CAPTURE THE, CAPTURE THE BENEFIT. SO I, I WOULD, I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF LOOKING AT THE FREE FEE STRUCTURE, AT LEAST CAPTURING BALLPARK FIGURES IN TERMS OF WHAT THEIR REVENUES ARE, UM, WHERE THE NET IS, UH, AND LOOKING INTO THE SOCIAL HOST ORDINANCES AND LOOKING AT SURROUNDING AREAS AND WHAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO TO CURTAIL, UH, SOME OF THE ILLEGAL FIREWORKS. YEAH, GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. UM, I AGREE WITH AN AWFUL LOT OF WHAT YOU SAID. UM, YOU CAN'T LIVE IN DUBLIN FOR VERY LONG AND NOT HAVE WORKED A FIREWORKS BOOTH. I DON'T THINK THERE'S BEEN A YEAR SINCE AT LEAST 2007 THAT I HAVEN'T SPENT MULTIPLE SHIFTS IN FIREWORKS BOOTHS FOR MULTIPLE NONPROFITS. I MEAN, IT IS AS MUCH A PART OF DUBLIN AS ANYTHING ELSE AT THIS POINT. UM, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE DON'T LOOK AT DOING THINGS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY. I WANNA BE VERY CLEAR BEFORE ANYBODY LOSES THEIR MINDS. I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF BANNING SAFE AND ST. FIREWORKS . UM, BUT I THINK THAT WE, WE DO WANT TO, UM, MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE DOING IT IN A WAY THAT REFLECTS THE, UM, CURRENT REALITY AS OPPOSED TO THE WAY WE STARTED SELLING SAFE AND INSANE FIREWORKS IN THE, UM, THE, UH, 1980S, WHICH, UH, CLEARLY WAS NOT UNCONTROVERSIAL SINCE THEY PUT TWO, UM, ADVISORY MEASURES ON THE BALLOT AT THAT TIME. UM, I DO THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT, UM, UH, POTENTIALLY A DIFFERENT FEE STRUCTURE. UM, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE TRULY CAPTURING THE CITY'S ACTUAL COSTS FOR TRULY ADMINISTERING SAFE AND SANE FIREWORKS. UM, I THINK WE'VE HEARD A COUPLE OF THINGS TONIGHT TO MAKE ME SAY, WAS 74,000 REALLY THE RIGHT NUMBER? ONE IS, UM, THE PUBLIC SAFETY PIECE IS, ARE THOSE THE RIGHT NUMBERS? UM, TWO, UH, HAVE WE ACCOUNTED FOR SALES TAX REVENUE BECAUSE IT, YOU KNOW, LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE REALLY CAPTURING THE WHOLE THING. BUT HAVING SAID THAT, ONCE WE DO HAVE A NUMBER, UM, I, I THINK THAT IT IS, UM, IT'S WORTH EXPLORING. WHAT, WHAT ARE WE, WHAT ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT PART OF THOSE 15 NONPROFITS? UM, WHAT ARE WE ASKING THOSE RESIDENTS TO PAY, PARTICULARLY IN LIGHT OF THE PROJECTED DEFICIT DOWN THE ROAD. UM, SO I THINK IT'S WORTH EXPLORING THAT. UM, I DO THINK IT'S WORTH LOOKING AT THE SOCIAL HOST ORDINANCE, UM, FOR MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE REASONS, NOT JUST FOR FIREWORKS. I THINK THAT, UM, WHAT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IS TO HAVE THE SOCIAL HOST ORDINANCE COME BACK TO US AS A SEPARATE ITEM SO THAT WE CAN UPDATE IT. BECAUSE I KNOW, UM, RIGHT NOW IT'S ONLY ABOUT UNDERAGE DRINKING. WE WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT IT, UM, AS IT PERTAINS TO FIREWORKS. I THINK WE WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT IT AS IT PERTAINS TO, UM, POTENTIALLY E-BIKES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. AND, AND THERE MAY BE OTHER THINGS THAT WE WANNA, UM, MAKE SURE THAT IT'S, UM, TRULY, UH, WORKING FOR THE CITY OF DUBLIN. SO I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT COME BACK TO US. UM, UH, ONE OF THE BULLETED ITEMS IN THE STAFF REPORT TALKS ABOUT, UM, CAPPING THE NUMBER OF BOOTHS AVAILABLE. I THINK THE CAP THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY IS FINE. WE'RE NOT BUMPING UP AGAINST IT NOW. KEEPING IT, UM, TIED TO THE POPULATION I THINK IS, IS FINE. UM, THE, I CAN'T READ MY OWN HANDWRITING HERE. OH, THAT SAYS LOCATIONS. UM, WE'VE HEARD A BUNCH OF NUMBERS THROWN OUT ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT EACH NONPROFIT IS MAKING. UM, I HEARD SOMEBODY SAY 19,000. I HEARD A NUMBER, SAY ANOTHER, SAY 25,000. SOMEBODY SAID AN AVERAGE OF 30, WHICH I DON'T THINK DATA WE HAVE SUPPORTS, BUT WE DON'T REALLY KNOW. I'M PART OF A NONPROFIT WHO WOULD LOVE TO SEE THOSE NUMBERS. UM, AND HASN'T, HASN'T BEEN ANYWHERE NEAR THAT. AND I BELIEVE SOME OF THAT MIGHT BE TIED TO LOCATION. SO I'D LOVE TO SEE, UM, MORE INFORMATION ABOUT, UM, AN EQUITABLE ASSIGNMENT OF BOOTH LOCATIONS ACROSS NONPROFITS SO THAT EVERYBODY HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HITTING THOSE KIND OF BIG NUMBERS. UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE DOING A LOTTERY FOR BOOTHS, THERE MAY BE SOME WAY TO, UM, LEAVE IT LESS UP TO CHANCE ABOUT WHICH LOCATIONS. UM, SO IF THE, THE STAFF HAS ANY IDEAS AROUND THAT, UM, I'M [01:55:01] INTRIGUED WITH THE ADMINISTRATIVE CITATION. UM, I'D LOVE TO SEE, UH, POLICE SERVICES COME BACK WITH, UM, INFORMATION ABOUT, UH, PUTTING MORE TEETH INTO, UM, THE ILLEGAL FIREWORKS, NOT JUST THE SOCIAL HOST ORDINANCE, BUT, UM, BEING ABLE TO HAVE INCREASING ADMINISTRATIVE CITATIONS ON OTHER STATE LAW RESTRICTIONS ON HOW MUCH YOU CAN FIND THROUGH AN ADMINISTRATIVE CITATION, BUT, UM, DOING AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN ABOUT THAT. UM, AND THEN FINALLY, AND, UM, I, I DO THINK THAT IT'S TIME THAT WE, UH, PUT AN ADVISORY BALLOT MEASURE OUT ABOUT, UM, AND I'D LIKE TO TO WORD IT IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. DO WE WANT TO CONTINUE THE SALE OF SAFE AND SANE FIREWORKS IN THE CITY OF DUBLIN? I THINK IF IT HASN'T BEEN SINCE THE EIGHTIES, WE GET MULTIPLE EMAILS EVERY YEAR, UM, TO COUNSEL AROUND THE 4TH OF JULY. WHY ON EARTH ARE WE STILL ALLOWING THIS? A LOT OF THOSE EMAILS REALLY DO TEND TO BE ABOUT THE ILLEGAL ONES. AND SO I'D WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE BALLOT LANGUAGE WAS CLEAR THAT WE WERE TA THAT WE HAVE NO, THAT IT IS ALREADY ILLEGAL TO, UM, SHOOT OFF SAFE AND SANE, BUT, UM, WEIGH IN FROM THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. UM, AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT IF THERE'S SUPPORT FOR THAT, WHETHER WE WANT THAT TO BE TRULY ADVISORY OR WHETHER WE WANT THAT TO BE. I THINK WE WOULD RATHER HAVE AN ADVISORY PERSONALLY, UM, WHETHER THE PUBLIC IS INTERESTED IN CONTINUING SAFE AND SANE. 'CAUSE I DO AGREE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A BIG PART OF WHAT MAKES DUB AND 4TH OF JULY DOUBLE AND 4TH OF JULY. YOU KNOW, WE, UM, AND THEN MY LAST POINT IS THAT, UM, WITH FIRE AND THE DUMPSTER FIRES, I HOPE THAT THERE'S A WAY THAT WE CAN, UM, PERHAPS HAVE PARK STAFF, UM, POUR WATER IN THOSE DUMPSTERS EVERY 10 MINUTES OR 15 MINUTES SO THAT THEY DON'T CATCH ON FIRE IN THE FIRST PLACE. UM, AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A FIRETRUCK COME OUT. UM, WE STILL ARE GONNA MONITOR IT, BUT HOPEFULLY THERE'S A WAY THAT WE CAN, UM, PREVENT THOSE FIRES, UM, FROM CATCHING IN THE DUMPSTERS IN THE FIRST PLACE. SO I THINK THAT'S, THOSE WOULD BE MY, THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE US DO. THANK YOU. YEAH. YOU WANT TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS? YEAH. YEAH, SURE. UM, THANK YOU BOTH FOR THOSE COMMENTS. UH, I AGREE WITH A LOT OF THEM. UM, AND I'M JUST GONNA GET RIGHT DOWN INTO WHAT I THINK IS WHERE WE SHOULD BE FOCUSING. UM, AND ONE IS FOCUSING ON ILLEGAL FIREWORKS. OKAY. UM, I WAS READING THE ORDINANCE RIGHT NOW PUT, AND YOU SAID IT, I WAS GONNA SAY IT TOO. YOU PUT MORE TEETH IN IT. LET'S REALLY GO AFTER THIS. THAT IS PROBABLY THE MAJOR CONCERN. UH, AND, UH, WE SHOULD PUT OUR RESOURCES IN IN, UM, BUILDING THAT OUT. OKAY. THE OTHER THING THAT, UH, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, AND I BROUGHT THIS UP, UH, WE HAVE A REPORTING GAP. UH, AND I, THAT'S THE WAY I'M PHRASING IT, IS THAT IT WOULD BE REALLY, REALLY GOOD TO UNDERSTAND HOW BENEFICIAL, UM, THESE SERVICES ARE TO THE NONPROFITS. AND I WOULD BET THAT THESE NONPROFITS WOULD BE MORE THAN WILLING TO PROVIDE, UH, INFORMATION, UH, ON, UH, HOW SUCCESSFUL THEY'VE BEEN. UH, IT'S, IT'S NOT ABOUT THE 75 GRAND, AND IT'S NOT ABOUT THE 0.005, WHATEVER PERCENT. IT'S ABOUT INCREMENTALLY LOOKING AT WHAT WE'RE PROVIDING REGARDLESS OF WHAT THAT COST IS. AND I THINK THIS IS GREAT. I THINK THE MULTIPLIER, WHAT I'M, IF WE'RE FIGURING THAT OUT, THAT'S A FANTASTIC MULTIPLIER, BUT I THINK IT'S MORE ABOUT, UM, BUILDING UP A LITTLE MORE REPORTING, UH, WITH, WITH THE NONPROFITS. AND, UH, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN. SO, UM, YEAH. VERY GOOD. YEAH. THANK YOU. UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, MARADA, DO YOU WANT TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS? NO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, MAYOR. MAYOR, I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE WITH MANY OF THE COMMENTS MADE BY VICE MAYOR JOSIE AND COUNCIL MEMBER CO, UH, CADRE AND COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARSTEN. UM, I LOVE THE DELIBERATION, THE FOCUS ON WHAT WE NEED TO DO NEXT. SO, UM, I HAVE NO FURTHER COMMENTS. THANK YOU. SO I'LL MAKE STA FOR MY COMMENTS HERE. SO I HEARD A LOT OF GOOD COMMENTS HERE, AND I DO FEEL WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THE ILLEGAL FIREWORKS AND MAKE SURE SAFETY, UM, FIRE. WE, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE FOR US. AND I DO WANT TO SAY THERE ARE A LOT OF BENEFITS, COMMUNITY BENEFITS, AS WE HEARD FROM, UM, OUR, UM, PUBLIC SPEAKERS TODAY. AND I LOVE TO HEAR THIS. UM, THAT'S A PART OF THE THINGS WE TALK ABOUT. WE WANT TO FIND OUT MORE NOW THE, NOW THE OWNING ABOUT HOW MUCH YOU HAVE MADE FROM THESE CELLS. ALSO, THE STORIES YOU TOLD US ABOUT WHERE YOU USE THE MONEY, HOW THAT CHANGE OUR KIDS LIFE, HOW WE MAKE OUR COMMUNITY A BETTER PLACE. SO WE LOVE TO HEAR THAT IN THE FUTURE. AND, UM, AND I, I DO WANT TO SAY BEYOND WHAT WE JUST TALK ABOUT, I DO FEEL IT'S LIKE A COMMUNITY SPIRIT. IT'S LIKE, UH, WE CELEBRATE INDEPENDENCE DAY, WE CELEBRATE THE HOLIDAY, AND WE ARE TOGETHER [02:00:01] BECAUSE I WENT TO PARKS DURING THAT NIGHT, AND I DO SEE A LOT OF CROWD. WE GET TOGETHER. WE EVEN, WE DON'T HAVE TO BUY THE, THE SAVE ANYTHING FIREWORKS, BUT WE CAN ALWAYS WATCH. SO I, I FEEL THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO OUR CITY, UM, AS A COMMUNITY GETTING TOGETHER AND CELEBRATE INDEPENDENT DAY TOGETHER PROUDLY. SO THAT'S BEYOND, UM, JUST A RAISING FUNDS FOR THE NON-PROFIT. AND SO JUST A, JUST COME BACK TO THIS, UM, A FEW ITEMS WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT HERE. SO, SO I DON'T, I DON'T FEEL WE NEED TO RECOVER OUR FEES FROM, FROM THIS, UM, FEE STRUCTURE. THE REASON IS, YOU KNOW, WE CELEBRATE ST. PATRICK DAY. WE CELEBRATE SP SPLITTER. THESE ARE COST, AND THIS, THIS, UH, THESE ARE THE COST FOR THE COMMUNITY. THESE ARE THE COST, UM, FROM THE NUMBER WE PUT HERE, 70,000. I THINK IT'S COMPARABLE OR IT'S REASONABLE COMPARED TO OTHER EVENTS, OTHER COMMUNITY EVENTS. WE, WE PROVIDE, UM, THE, THE FINANCE SUPPORT. AND, BUT I DO CARE ABOUT, UM, THIS SECOND ITEM HERE, THE CITY'S SOCIAL HOST ORDINANCE. I THINK IT WILL BE, BE A GOOD IDEA TO LOOK INTO THIS. UH, WE WANT TO HELP PEOPLE, UM, RESPONSIBLE ESPECIALLY, UM, WE WANT TO BE CAUTIOUS ABOUT THIS ILLEGAL, UM, FIREWORKS. WE WANT TO DO EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS AS WELL. SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS WE THINK, UH, WE, WE CAN LOOK INTO. AND FOR THE NUMBERS OF BOTH, UM, I THINK THE NUMBER IS, IS, IS ALREADY KIND OF, UH, WORKED OUT ON ITS OWN RIGHT NOW. IT'S NOT GROWING UP. UH, AND IT'S NOT EASY ACTUALLY. IT'S NOT VERY, VERY HARD, HARD WORK, UM, AND A GOOD NETWORK IN ORDER TO MAKE THE NONPROFIT FUNDRAISING TO WORK. SO I DON'T THINK WE, WE NEED TO DO ANYTHING THERE. UM, BUT FOR THE BETTER MEASURE, I DON'T, I DON'T FEEL RIGHT NOW WE NEED A BETTER MEASURE TO LOOK AT THIS. AGAIN, I DON'T FEEL WE NEED THIS. THAT'S HOW I, I, MY COMMENTS IS, SO THIS IS, UH, UM, JUST THE RECEIVE THE REPORT, GIVE COMMENTS, SO WE DON'T NEED A MOTION. WELL, IT SOUNDS LIKE I, UM, THERE'S SOME DIRECTION BEING PROVIDED. SO IF I COULD JUST GO THROUGH YES. EACH ONE. CAN I GO AHEAD. CAN I ADD, GO AHEAD. UM, THANK YOU. I FORGOT TO MENTION THE FACT THAT THE ORDINANCE ITSELF, UM, NEEDS A LITTLE BIT OF CLEANUP. IT'S FROM 82 ISH. UM, AND THERE ARE, THERE ARE SOME THINGS IN IT THAT ARE VERY OUTDATED. UM, AND THERE ARE AT LEAST TWO PRACTICES THAT ARE IN THERE THAT WE DON'T FOLLOW, UM, REGARDING WHO CAN BE IN THE BOOTH, WHO CAN WORK THE BOOTH, AND THE PROFIT SHARING IN THE BOOTH. SO I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE THAT COME BACK TO US SO THAT WE, UM, CAN UPDATE IT. UM, FOR EXAMPLE, THE, UM, THE DEPOSIT, PUT IT, TAKE THAT OUT, PUT IT IN THE FEE STRUCTURE, UM, SO THAT IT, IT RISES WITH INFLATION, IF THAT'S APPROPRIATE. UM, WHO CAN WORK IN THE BOOTH? DOES IT REALLY HAVE TO BE ONLY A PARENT OR A SPOUSE OF A KID THAT'S IN THAT NONPROFIT? UM, 'CAUSE THAT IS NOT OUR CURRENT PRACTICE. UM, THERE'S ANOTHER PIECE IN THERE THAT I BROUGHT UP TO STAFF EARLIER THAT I REALLY DON'T WANNA DAYLIGHT IN PUBLIC THAT I THINK IS SUPER PROBLEMATIC. SO THERE, THERE'S SOME THINGS ABOUT THE ORDINANCE THAT, UM, SHOULD COME BACK, UM, TO US, I THINK AS WELL IF, IF, UM, FOLKS ARE AMENABLE TO THAT AS WELL. OKAY. SO MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS TO, TO RECAP AND THEN I NEED DIRECTION ON A COUPLE THINGS. UM, THE SOC SOCIAL HOST ORDINANCE, UH, WE'LL LOOK AT EXPANDING THAT. OKAY. AND, UH, CLEANUP ITEMS ONLY ON THE FIREWORKS ORDINANCE TO MAKE SURE IT'S CURRENT. THAT MAKES SENSE. UM, FEE STRUCTURE. UH, AM I BEING DIRECTED TO EXPLORE A NEW FEE STRUCTURE? OKAY. FOR, FOR NOW, I SEE TWO NOS AND ONE, YES, I AM. I, I'M INDIFFERENT TO THAT. I THINK FOR ME IT'S MORE ABOUT UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE BENEFIT IS TO THE COMMUNITY. AND, AND THAT'S ON MY LIST AS WELL. I MEAN, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU WANT ME TO EXPLORE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY? LOOK AT THE FEE STRUCTURE OR NO, I HAVE, I HAVE NO PROBLEM LOOKING AT THE FEE STRUCTURE. ONE, TWO, AND, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MARADA, UH, NOT THIS TIME. OKAY. UH, THE NEXT THING IS, UH, GETTING INFORMATION ON REVENUES. UH, WE CAN MAKE THAT PART OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS, BUT THAT'S PART OF THAT IS UNDERSTANDING THE BENEFIT THAT'S PROVIDED BY THE NONPROFITS. RIGHT. CAN I ASK, UM, ACTUALLY THE MAYOR BROUGHT UP SOMETHING THAT, UM, OFTENTIMES WHEN, UM, AND I'VE SEEN APPLICATIONS BEFORE FOR, FOR OTHER, YOU KNOW, FOR HEALTHCARE [02:05:01] SERVICES AND THE WHOLE BIT, AND THERE WAS IT, THERE WAS THE, THE BENEFIT, THE ANALYTICS, AND THEN THERE WAS ALSO THE STORIES MM-HMM . OKAY. UH, HOW WAS, HOW DO YOU PERCEIVE THIS TO BE BENEFITING? SO I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANNA GET TOO MUCH INTO THE, YOU KNOW, PAPERWORK OF ALL THIS BECAUSE, BECAUSE IT CAN BE VERY TOXIC, BUT, UM, I DIDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT EITHER TO SHARE WITH US SOME OF THE STORIES US SHARE THIS, LIKE THE ONES THEY SHARE WE USE FOR THE STUDENT GOING TO THIS TRIP. JUST, JUST GENERALLY. YEAH. WHERE, HOW THIS ANOTHER THING, I, I, I DON'T KNOW ALL THE NONPROFITS, SO IF THEY DON'T WANT TO SHARE, IT'S OKAY TO, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE WANT TO KEEP, IF THEY WANT TO KEEP THE NUMBER CONFIDENTIAL, THAT THERE'S SOMETIMES PEOPLE WANT TO DO THAT. SO WE'RE NOT GONNA MAKE IT PART OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS. IS IT OPTIONAL? YEAH, OPTIONAL. YEAH. IT, IT GIVES CLARITY. SOME PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO SHARE THAT NUMBER. I'D, I'D PREFER JUST HAVING IT AS PART OF THE APPLICATION. YEAH. IF WE'RE COLLECTING DATA, WE NEED TO COLLECT DATA OR, OR WE, WE KEEP IT CONFIDENTIAL BECAUSE I, I DO SEE THIS CAN BE SOME NUMBER FINANCIAL NUMBERS. PEOPLE MAY NOT WANT TO SHARE WITH THE, EVERYBODY. NONPROFITS HAVE REPORTING REQUIREMENTS ON THEIR, YOU THINK IT'S OKAY IF, IF THEY FEEL OKAY. UH, OKAY. NEXT, UM, EXPLORE ALLOCATION OF BOOTH, UM, ASSIGNMENTS OF LOCATIONS. I, HOW IS IT DONE RIGHT NOW? IT'S, IT'S, IT'S . WELL, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT RIGHT NOW, SO WE WOULD JUST HAVE TO INVESTIGATE. WOULD WE HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER? I THINK, I THINK PART OF IT, UH, ACCORDING TO THE, TO THE STAFF REPORT, PART OF IT IS, IS THE NONPROFITS WORKING IT OUT WITH A PROPERTY OWNER DIRECTLY. MM-HMM . SO THERE, THERE WOULDN'T BE A A THAT CAN'T BE EQUITABLE. , A LOT OF IT IS NOT THEM WORKING IT OUT WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS. A LOT OF THEM IS WORKING. MY UNDERSTANDING OF IT, HAVING BEEN ON THAT END OF IT IS WORKING IT OUT WITH THE FIREWORKS SELLER WHO OFTEN IS THE ONE THAT CONTRACTS WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER. OH. I THINK THAT'S INVESTIGATED THE ISSUE OF, IF YOU WANT ME TO EXPLORE IT, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING FOR, IS TO EXPLORE THE ISSUE. SURE. OKAY. UH, MORE TEETH IN THE ADMIN, UH, CITATION. OKAY. ADVISORY BALLOT MEASURE. I JUST WANNA SAY A COUPLE THINGS ON THIS. UM, IT WOULDN'T COST US ANYTHING TO PUT A, A BALLOT MEASURE ON, EXCEPT THE TRANSLATION SERVICES, AS I RECALL, ARE ABOUT $15,000 INTO SEVERAL LANGUAGES. UH, IF WE WERE TO DO ANY OUTREACH TO THE COMMUNITY IN THE FORM OF POSTCARDS, UM, OFF OF ONE WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST, THERE ARE ABOUT, UH, $10,000 PER ISSUANCE OF POSTCARDS. I'M NOT SAYING WE WOULD GO THAT ROUTE. WE OBVIOUSLY WOULD USE ONLINE METHODS AS WELL, BUT, UH, THOSE WOULD BE THE GENERAL COSTS. I WOULDN'T, WE COULD PUT THAT INPUT, MAYBE WE PUT IT INTO LIKE A COMMUNITY SURVEY. COULD DO THAT. YEAH. MY, MY ISSUE, MY ONLY ISSUE WITH THE COMMUNITY SURVEY IS THAT IT'S, UM, IT'S LESS SCIENTIFIC. WE GET THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY ENGAGED AND NOT NECESSARILY THE PEOPLE WHO EMAIL US AFTER THE FACT. AND WE GET A LOT OF THAT, UM, MY INTEREST IN PUTTING IT ON THE, UM, THE BALLOT, AND, AND TO BE CLEAR, I WAS INTERESTED IN THE GENERAL FOR 2026, BECAUSE IT LOWERS THE COST AND UPS THE PARTICIPATION. I WOULDN'T WANT US DOING ANY PARTICULAR OUTREACH AROUND IT. YEAH. JUST ASKING THE QUESTION TO MINIMIZE THE COST AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. YES. THERE WOULD BE TRANSLATION COSTS. WE WOULD BE TRANSLATING BALLOT MEASURES ANYWAY. THIS ADDS LANGUAGE THAT WE'D HAVE TO TRANSLATE. AND OBVIOUSLY IT ADDS A LITTLE BIT OF, UM, JOHN'S TIME, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE WORDING THINGS IN A, IN A LEGAL WAY. UM, I THINK THAT'S A FAIRLY SMALL AMOUNT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE REACHING ALL OF THE COMMUNITY THAT DOESN'T COME TO THE MEETINGS, BUT, YOU KNOW, HAS WEIGHED IN. UM, I, THAT'S ALL I'LL SAY ABOUT IT. I'M NOT, I, I THINK WE'VE ASKED, WE'VE ASKED ADVISORY IN THE PAST, WE HAVE A VERY DIFFERENT COMMUNITY THAN WE HAD BEFORE. I HAVE A FEELING I KNOW HOW IT'S GONNA COME OUT, AND THAT'S WHY I'M SO INTERESTED IN, IN MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE DOING THIS RIGHT, GOING FORWARD. BUT I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE. SO, UM, THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S WORTH ASKING THE QUESTION ON THIS ONE. GO AHEAD. SORRY. UM, I'M A LITTLE SLOW ON THIS. YOU WANNA, YOU WANNA PUT SOMETHING ON THE BALLOT? IS THAT WHAT I'M SAYING? AND, AND I'M, I'M STILL SEEING THAT IT VERY DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET AT AND HOW THAT WOULD BE PHRASED. BECAUSE WHEN YOU PUT SOMETHING ON THE BALLOT, YOU'RE SAYING EITHER YES OR NO. RIGHT? HOW WOULD, HOW I'M MISSING SOMETHING? UM, BUT YOU CAN PUT A MEASURE ON THE BALLOT, AND JOHN, IF I EXPLAIN THIS INCORRECTLY, PLEASE OBVIOUSLY JUMP IN. YOU CAN PUT A BALLOT ON THE MEASURE ON THE, YOU CAN PUT A MEASURE ON THE BALLOT, WHICH IS BINDING, AND THEN IF COUNCILS EVER WANTED TO CHANGE THAT IN THE FUTURE, IT WOULD TAKE ANOTHER ACT OF VOTERS. UM, OR YOU CAN PUT AN ADVISORY QUESTION ON A BALLOT WHERE YOU'RE GETTING THE INPUT FROM EVERYBODY WHO VOTES ON THAT BALLOT. AND SO MY, MY ASK IS THAT WE PUT AN [02:10:01] ADVISORY QUESTION ON THE GENERAL 2026 BALLOT WHERE WE KNOW THERE'S GONNA BE HIGH PARTICIPATION SAYING, DO YOU SUPPORT, AS AN ADVISORY QUESTION, DO YOU SUPPORT THE CITY'S CONTINUED SALE OF SAFE, INSANE FIREWORKS? BECAUSE THAT PUTS THE MEASURE THAT PUTS THIS TO REST FOR, YOU KNOW, QUITE A WHILE, ONCE WE'VE GOT THAT ANSWER. UM, THAT YES, THE COMMUNITY IS, YOU KNOW, BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I WANT THE CITY ADVOCATING FOR ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER. IT'S NOT SOMETHING LIKE WHEN WE'VE PUT MEASURES ON THE BALLOT WHERE WE'RE SAYING, THIS IS, THIS IS THE CITY'S POSITION THAT WE THINK THIS IS A GOOD IDEA, AND WE'RE GOING OUT AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T ADVOCATE FOR ONCE IT'S ON THERE, BUT WE, WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME PUTTING OUT INFORMATIONAL POSTCARDS AND ME MESS MESSAGING AND THAT KIND OF THING. I'M SIMPLY SAYING, I THINK WE SHOULD BE ASKING THE QUESTION. WE DO THAT INFORMATION. WELL, THEN WE WOULD HAVE THE, WE WOULD HAVE THE OPINIONS OF, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN 15 NONPROFITS ON WHAT THEY THINK WE SHOULD BE DOING. BECAUSE WE'VE HEARD QUITE A LOT THAT THE ENVIRONMENT IS JUST DIFFERENT THAN IT WAS IN 88, 82 WHEN THE LAST TIME THEY ASKED THIS QUESTION. UM, YOU KNOW, CLIMATE CHANGE IS DIFFERENT. WILDFIRE RISK IS DIFFERENT. THE, THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF DUBLIN OR SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT. UM, AND WE GET THIS QUESTION EVERY YEAR. WE GET EMAILS FROM PEOPLE, YOU READ THEM ASKING US TO BAN FIREWORKS. SO I, I THINK IT'S WORTH ASKING THE QUESTION, AND I DON'T THINK IT'S A VERY BIG COST TO ASK AN ADVISORY QUESTION. IT IS STILL IN THE HANDS OF COUNCIL WHETHER WE TAKE THAT ADVICE OR NOT. I ASK QUESTION. YEAH, GO AHEAD. IF I MAY COMMENT, JOHN. OH, I, HANG ON ONE SEC. JOHN, YOU WANNA GO FOR IT? GO AHEAD. I'LL LET YOU GO AND THEN I'LL, I'LL FOLLOW YOU. OKAY. UM, I, SO I, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH, UH, UH, VICE MAYOR'S REQUEST TO, TO COLLECT THE DATA AND, AND, AND SURVEY. UH, I DO THINK THERE ARE MULTIPLE AVENUES IN WHICH WE CAN COLLECT THE DATA, BECAUSE IF WE JUST PUT IT ON THE BALLOT, IT IS A SEGMENT OF THE POPULATION WHO ARE REGISTERED VOTERS. NOT EVERYBODY IS A REGISTERED VOTER IN, IN, UH, IN, IN, IN OUR CITY. SO WE NEED TO ALSO BE ACCOUNTING FOR THEIR OPINION AS WELL, BECAUSE ALTHOUGH THEY MAY NOT BE REGISTERED VOTERS, THEY HAVE MONEY IN THEIR POCKET TO GO BUY FIREWORKS. SO WE HAVE TO EXTEND AND EXPAND THE SURVEY TO, TO GET THE TRUE NUMBER AND OPINION OF WHAT WE THINK OUR RESIDENTS ARE FEELING. SO, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S SIMPLY MY COMMENT. UM, I THINK THERE ARE MULTIPLE AVENUES. SO WE SHOULD PURSUE AND HAVE A DIALOGUE ABOUT WHAT THOSE AVENUES COULD BE AND HAVE STAFF RESEARCH THEM AND GET BACK TO US ON MULTIPLE APPROACHES TO GET ABOVE THE STATISTICAL CURVE OF A, OF, UM, OF A CONFIDENCE LEVEL OF WHAT WE THINK THE CITIZEN OPINION TRULY IS. UM, TO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, COUNCIL MEMBER MARADA, GO AHEAD. UH, SO THIS QUESTION IS FOR, FOR, FOR JOHN. UM, HAVE WE DONE, UH, ANYTHING IN THE NATURE OF AN ADVISORY, UH, QUESTION ON THE BALLOT IN RECENT MEMORY? NOT IN RECENT MEMORY, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN AT LEAST I THINK, TWO FIREWORKS, UH, ADVISORY MEASURES. AND THERE MAY HAVE BEEN OTHER IN THE HISTORY OF DUBLIN, OTHER ADVISORY MEASURES. I'M LOOKING AT, MARSHA, THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO WE'RE AWARE OF AS THREE OF US HERE, I WOULD ADVOCATE FOR LOOKING FOR OUTREACH METHODS. AND IT, IT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT JOHN JUST SAID. UH, AT LEAST WHAT I PICKED UP FROM THAT WAS THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT APPROACH IS, YOU KNOW, WHETHER WE'RE HITTING THE RIGHT PEOPLE, UH, THROUGH VARIOUS METHODS. I'M NOT SURE THAT, UH, A BALLOT, UH, ADVISORY IS THE SOLE FOR BEST REASON. AND I THINK IF, IF WE CAN JUST MAYBE SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF TIME ON, ON DISCUSSING THAT, UM, A LITTLE BIT, UH, MORE TO FLUSH OUT WHAT THAT BEST METHOD IS, BECAUSE I, I, I AGREE WITH YOU. I THINK THE QUESTION SHOULD BE ASKED, BUT, UH, I MEAN, WE, WE CAN'T GO ABOUT OUR BUSINESS AND NOT ASK THAT QUESTION. AS YOU POINTED OUT VERY CLEARLY, UH, THINGS HAVE CHANGED SINCE 1982. UM, AND, AND IN ALL FAIRNESS, UH, WE WOULD BE, UH, UH, DEFICIENT IN OUR WAYS IF WE DIDN'T ASK THESE QUESTIONS. THIS IS WHAT WE, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PAY THE BIG BUCKS FOR, RIGHT? SO, UM, I WOULD ADVOCATE FOR, UM, TALKING A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT THAT METHOD MIGHT BE. YEAH, I'M FINE WITH THAT. I, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE, WE COME BACK WITH A METHOD THAT IS, UM, STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT AS OPPOSED TO SIMPLY, UM, AN OPT-IN SURVEY ON A WEBSITE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I THINK THE BEAUTY OF CAPITALISM IS THAT THE DOLLARS SPEAK, RIGHT? IF IF PEOPLE ARE BUYING, THEN THEY'RE SUPPORTIVE OF IT. SO, AND, AND ALSO ABOUT THE QUESTIONS WE HAVE TO, UM, CONSIDER, BECAUSE I HEARD YOU JUST MENTION QUESTION IS, SHOULD WE SELL THE SAFE THING? AND FOR ME, IT'S NOT ABOUT WE SELL OR WE DON'T SELL IT. FOR ME, IT'S A, LIKE, DO WE ALLOW THE FIREWORKS TO, IN OUR CITY, IN THE [02:15:01] CITY PARKS AND THE YEAH, I MEANT, AS OPPOSED TO WORDING IT, SHOULD THE CITY BAN BAN? I MEANT TO, TO MY QUESTION. I WANTED IT TO BE ON THE I SEE. I SEE. YEAH. SO, SO ANOTHER INFORMATION I WANT TO BRING TO YOU, BECAUSE I ACTUALLY, I, I, I DID A MULTI YEARS OF VOLUNTEERS ON THIS THING. I, I KNOW IT'S IMPORTANT FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE, AND I KNOW IT'S, UH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A SPIRIT FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE. AND I ACTUALLY DON'T SAY, WHAT ARE THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WE, WE WERE TRYING TO GET OUT OF THIS. WE ALREADY HEARD SPEAKERS TODAY, AND WE SAY EMAILS, WE TALK TO PEOPLE, AND WE CAN ALWAYS GO ON ANALYST, YOU KNOW, PUT A LOT OF EFFORT, A LOT OF, FOR, THAT'S ADDITIONAL STUFF, TIME AND ADDITIONAL COST AS WELL TO, WE CAN, WE CAN GO DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE TO DIG INTO DATA, GET MORE. BUT I DON'T SAY LIKE HOW EFFECTIVE WE USE OUR TIME, JUST TRYING TO GET MORE DATA, GET EVERYTHING FROM WHAT I HEARD, DISCUSSION OF THE CONSULT TODAY. FROM WHAT I HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC SPEAKING TODAY, I THINK WE, WE LIKE TO KEEP, THAT'S WHAT I HEARD TOO. WE LIKE TO CONTINUE THE, THE FIRE, THE SAFE FINANCING, FIREWORKS. WE WANT TO FOCUS ON ILLEGAL, LIKE MANAGING THE ILLEGAL ONES. I, I DON'T SEE HOW DOES THAT INFORMATION, LIKE, BECAUSE IF INFORMATION IS ALWAYS COMES WITH A COST, I DON'T SAY WHY. THAT'S A FOCUS OF WHAT WE, WE TRYING TO DO. PUT OUR MONEY AND EFFORT ON THAT. SO THAT'S MY, MY ARGUMENT OF PUTTING A BALLOT THERE. UM, IF WE PUT IN A SURVEY QUESTIONS, I DON'T SAY WHY NOT? BECAUSE WE DO SURVEYS EVERY YEAR. WE DO THIS ANYWAY. AND I THINK THAT'S EASY WAY AND NOT DISTURBING WAY, UM, TO GET THE INFORMATION. THAT'S HOW I FEEL. I JUST WANT TO, WANT TO ADD ADVOCATE FOR THAT. IF WE DO NEED THAT INFORMATION FOR ME. I DON'T FEEL WE NEED THAT INFORMATION. I'M GOOD WITH DIRECTION. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE'RE GOOD. OKAY. UH, SHOULD WE TAKE A, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE ANOTHER ITEM ABOUT THE SAFETY THING. SHOULD WE TAKE LIKE THREE MINUTES BREAK? I DON'T THINK WE CAN RUN THROUGH VERY QUICKLY. WE HAVE MORE QUESTIONS. SO WE HAVE A VERY IMPORTANT AGENDA ITEM. LET'S TAKE A THREE MINUTES BREAK AND COME BACK. THANK YOU. WELL, THIS IS TV 30. I'M GONNA COUNT YOU IN IN 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. I'LL [8.2 Dublin Library/Civic Center Public Art Mural Project Artwork Selection ] CONTINUE OUR, UM, DISCUSSION ON THIS NEW AGENDA. ITEM 8.2 TO W LIBRARY, CIVIC CENTER, PUBLIC ART MURAL PROJECT, ARTWORK, ELECTION. UH, GOOD EVENING. I'M MAYOR I, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, SEAN KOWSKI, PARKLAND COMMUNITY SERVICES. UM, I'M GONNA DO MY BEST TO POWER THROUGH THIS WITHOUT COUGHING ALL OVER THE MICROPHONE. UM, THE ITEM FOR YOU TONIGHT IS THE DUBLIN LIBRARY, UH, PUBLIC ART MURAL PROJECT. UM, I'M GONNA, IT'S KINDA A TWO PART PRESENTATION. I'M GONNA RUN THROUGH SOME BACKGROUND, AND THEN I'M ACTUALLY GONNA TURN OVER TO THE ARTIST. UM, WE'LL LET THEM RUN THROUGH, UH, THEIR PROPOSAL. UH, SO THIS PROJECT KICKED OFF WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE 24, UH, THROUGH 29, UH, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, UH, WHICH INCLUDED, UH, PROJECT PA 0 1 2 5, WHICH IS OUTDOOR MURALS. THIS PROJECT EARMARKED FUNDING FOR, UH, PLANNED IN FUTURE PROJECTS. WE KIND OF, WE HAD OUR EYES KIND OF ON THIS, UH, LOCATION ON THIS MURAL OPPORTUNITY. AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, THERE POTENTIALLY SOME FUTURE MURAL OPPORTUNITIES. UM, SO THIS KIND OF SET ASIDE FUNDING RESOURCES, UM, FOR US TO KINDA HIT THE GROUND RUNNING, UM, IN EARLY 25, UH, STAFF, RECENT RFQ, UH, WE RECEIVED 31 RESPONSES FROM MURALIST, UH, THAT WERE INTERESTED IN THIS PROJECT. AND THEN POTENTIALLY FUTURE PROJECTS, UM, IN MAY OF 25. AND I, THERE'S AN ASTERISK HERE. THIS IS, UM, KIND OF A, SOMETHING NEW THAT WE TRIED, UH, WITH THIS PROJECT. UM, WE TOOK AN ITEM TO THE HERITAGE AND CULTURE ARTS COMMISSION TO, UH, PRESENT TO THIS SPEC TALK MORE ABOUT SPECIFICS OF THIS PROJECT. UM, SO FROM THAT MEETING, UH, WITH INPUT FROM STAFF, FROM THE, UH, FROM THE LIBRARY, WE DEVELOPED A PROJECT THEME, UH, SOME, UH, SPECIFIC PROJECT GOALS. UM, THOSE ARE INCLUDED WITH YOUR STAFF REPORT. I'M GONNA SHOW 'EM A LITTLE BIT ON THE NEXT SLIDE AS WELL. UM, BUT REALLY JUST TRYING TO BE SPECIFIC AND KIND OF HONE IN WHERE WE WANTED TO GO WITH THIS PROJECT. UM, THAT BROUGHT US INTO THE SELECTION COMMITTEE PHASE. UH, FIRST MEETING, UH, WAS IN JUNE. AND AT THIS MEETING, THE [02:20:01] SELECTION COMMITTEE, WHICH DAN HOC MEETING, UH, UM, MADE UP OF, UH, COMMUNITY MEMBERS. THEY REVIEWED THE PROJECT GOALS THAT WERE DEVELOPED AND THE 31 ARTISTS, UH, PORTFOLIOS. UH, FROM THERE, THEY SELECTED FIVE FINALISTS WHO WERE INVITED TO DEVELOP SITE SPECIFIC PROPOSALS. AT THE SECOND SELECTION COMMITTEE MEETING IN AUGUST. UM, AGAIN, THEY REVIEWED PROJECT GOALS AND RECEIVED PRESENTATIONS FROM THE FIVE FINALISTS. UM, AT THAT MEETING, THEY RECOMMENDED THREE FOR CONSIDERATION. UH, THAT BROUGHT US TO SEPTEMBER 25, WHICH WAS THE, UM, SOME, AGAIN, WITH THE MATRIC THERE. SOMETHING NEW THAT WE TRIED WAS A PUBLIC OUTREACH KIND OF, UH, COMMENT PERIOD. UM, SO THE GOAL OF THIS WAS REALLY JUST TO, TO BRING AWARENESS TO THE PROJECT. UM, TRY TO, YOU KNOW, DRUM UP SOME ENGAGEMENT, YOU KNOW, EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY ON THE CITY'S PUBLIC ART PROGRAM. UM, AND AN OVERWHELMING RESPONSE. OVER 700 RESPONSES, UM, WERE RECEIVED. UM, I DO WANNA NOTE THAT OBVIOUSLY, THAT THE DATA 700 COMMENTS WAS A LOT. YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT STATISTICALLY VALID. UM, WE HAVE NO NECESSARILY GUARANTEE THAT THESE WERE DUBLIN RESIDENTS, UM, AND THEY WERE REALLY JUST LOOKING AT RENDERINGS. THEY WEREN'T REALLY SEEING THE FULL ARTIST PROPOSAL. UM, SO LIKE, I THINK WHAT YOU'LL SEE TONIGHT IS YOU'LL SEE THE PICTURES, BUT YOU ALSO HEAR KIND OF THE NARRATIVE IN THIS STORY BEHIND IT, WHICH I THINK KIND OF HELPS MAYBE FRAME, UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE, WHERE THE VISION IS. UM, THAT BROUGHT US TO, UH, THE NOVEMBER 25 HERITAGE AND CALL ARTS COMMISSION MEETING. AGAIN, WE REVIEWED PROJECT GOALS AND OBJECTIVES. UH, THE HERITAGE COMMISSION REVIEWED THE THREE FINALISTS PROPOSALS THAT WERE RECOMMENDED BY THE S COMMITTEE, AND THEY ULTIMATELY SELECTED THE RECOMMEND OR THE SELECTED THE PROPOSAL BY ROUGH EDGE COLLECTIVE, UM, IS THE RECOMMENDATION, UM, TONIGHT. SO, UH, BRINGS US TO THE LAST BULLET POINT, IS TONIGHT, UH, HERE FOR CITY COUNCIL REVIEW AND, UM, APPROVAL. UM, AGAIN, THIS IS A, IT'S A LOT OF TEXT UP THERE. UH, BUT THE, THE THEME FOR THE PROJECT WAS, OUR STORY BEGINS WITH IMAGINATION. AND JUST KIND OF, KIND OF HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE WORDS HERE, WRITING THE REPRESENT REPRESENTATION OF CULTURAL DIVERSITY, GENERATIONAL CHANGE, YOU KNOW, A MURAL THAT CONVEYS, YOU KNOW, GROWTH, IMAGINATION, COLLECTIVE JOURNEYS, UM, YOU KNOW, CONTROLLED VIBRANCY. UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY STUCK OUT WAS, UH, THE HERITAGE COMMISSION WAS, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE DON'T LET THIS JUST BE A, YOU KNOW, A PAINTING OF THE INSIDE OF A LIBRARY. YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO JUST SEE, YOU KNOW, BOOKSHELVES FULL OF BOOKS AND, YOU KNOW, COMPUTERS, WHATNOT. UM, SO AGAIN, YOU KNOW, A MURAL THAT CONVEYS, YOU KNOW, OR INSPIRES IMAGINATION, WISDOM, KNOWLEDGE, UM, YOU KNOW, A MURAL THAT CAN BE INTERPRETED, YOU KNOW, FROM DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES. SO AGAIN, THIS WAS, THIS WAS INCLUDED OF THE STAFF REPORT, AND THIS WAS KIND OF THE BASIS OF ALL THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SELECTION PROCESS. UH, JUST FOR A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT, UH, ABOUT 25 FOOT LONG, UH, 12 BY 14, UH, WIDE OR TALL AND WIDE. IT'S ABOUT 950 SQUARE FEET, UM, ALL AROUND. AND AGAIN, I, I INCLUDED THIS. THIS IS FROM THE CITY'S PUBLIC ART MASTER PLAN. UM, YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE LOOKING AT ARTISTS AND, UH, ARTWORK SELECTION, YOU KNOW, WORKS THAT OBVIOUSLY ARE QUALIFIED PROFESSIONAL HARVEST, HIGH QUALITY, APPROPRIATE TO SITE ENHANCED PUBLIC SPACES, UH, PERMANENCE, UM, THAT INCLUDES, YOU KNOW, RESISTANCE TO VANDALISM, YOU KNOW, IT CAN BE MAINTAINED. UM, WORK IS CONSISTENT WITH CITY AND COMMUNITY VALUES AND CITY'S MISSION VISION. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY, WORK THAT'S, YOU KNOW, SAFE FOR PUBLIC DISPLAY. UM, THAT CONCLUDES, UH, MY PRESENTATION. AND I WANT TO INTRODUCE, UM, MJ AND JOSHUA FROM THE ROUGH EDGE COLLECTIVE, AND THEY'RE GONNA RUN THROUGH, UM, THEIR SLIDES. HELLO. UM, OKAY. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US. UM, HERE'S A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON US. MY NAME IS MARIA JOSE MJ LINDO LAWYER, AND I'M JOSHUA LAWYER. AND, UH, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME, UH, TALK ABOUT A PROPOSAL. UM, WE'RE REALLY, REALLY, UM, EXCITED ABOUT THE WORK, AND YEAH, THANK YOU. AND THIS IS, UM, KIND OF THE LONG RENDITION OF, OF STORIES TOLD. OUR STORY BEGINS WITH A CHILD COMPLETELY IMMERSED IN A BOOK, TRANSPORTED BEYOND THE PAGE, INTO NEW WORLDS, NEW IDEAS, AND THE LIVES OF PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT CULTURES, BELIEFS, AND EXPERIENCES. THIS DESIGN SEEKS TO HONOR THE QUIET, EXTRAORDINARY POWER OF STORIES, THE WAY THEY REACH ACROSS BORDERS AND DIFFERENCES. TO TOUCH SOMETHING DEEPLY HUMAN IN ALL OF US, BOOKS BECOME MORE THAN PAGES THAT BECOME PORTALS WEAVING CONNECTION THROUGH CURIOSITY, EMPATHY, AND WONDER. HERE WE CELEBRATE NOT ONLY WHAT UNITES US, BUT ALSO THE VIBRANT SPECTRUM OF WHAT SETS US APART. IN OUR SHARED STORIES AND OUR [02:25:01] SINGULAR VOICES. WE FIND THE TRUE BEAUTY OF BEING HUMAN. THE SECOND FIGURE, THE ORACLE IS SUBMITTED FOR APPROVAL. THIS DESIGN HAS BEEN REVISED IN RESPONSE TO FEEDBACK FROM THE ARTS COUNCIL TO MORE ACCURATELY REPRESENT THE DIVERSITY OF DUBLIN'S POPULATION AND THE CULT. THE CITY'S CULTURAL, AND, I'M SORRY, THE CITY'S HISTORICAL AND CULTURAL HERITAGE. WE ANTICIPATE POTENTIAL CHANGING OF SOME OF THE FIGURES AS WELL AS FURTHER DEVELOPING SOME VISUALS, UM, SUCH AS THE BIRDS. THE THIRD FIGURE BECOME, UH, THE THIRD FIGURE COMES FROM A DISTANT PLACE WRAPPED IN THE STORIES OF HER ANCESTORS. MYTHS AND LEGENDS PASSED DOWN THROUGH GENERATIONS, BLENDING MEMORY WITH MAGIC, HISTORY WITH IMAGINATION. HER STORIES IMMORTALIZED THROUGH POEMS, THROUGH, THROUGH TRADITIONS, THROUGH SONGS, EPIC TALES AND SHORT STORIES. SHE'S THE MYSTERY THAT IS HONEST AND TRUE. THE FOURTH FIGURE IS A WOMAN DEFINED BY STRENGTH AND UNWAVERING PURPOSE. SHE MOVES THROUGH THE WORLD LIKE A FORCE OF NATURE, PART SUPERHERO, PART VISIONARY, UNAFRAID TO STAND FOR WHAT'S RIGHT AND SHAPE WHAT'S POSSIBLE. SHE'S THE ONE YOU ROOT FOR IN EVERY STORY, THE KIND OF COOL THAT DOESN'T CHASE ATTENTION, BUT COMMANDS IT. HER CONFIDENCE LINGERS LIKE A SPARK YOU MIGHT HOPE TO CATCH, SO YOU CAN, YOU TOO CAN STEP FORWARD WITH THE STRENGTH YOU NEVER WAS YOURS. EACH OF THESE FIGURES LIVES IN A DIFFERENT WORLD. YET THROUGH THE TIMELESS POWER OF STORYTELLING, THEY ARE CONNECTED, FINDING COMMON GROUND IN THE SHARED LANGUAGE OF HUMANITY. OUR GOAL WAS TO DEPICT FIGURES THAT FELT HISTORIC AND MAGICAL STORIES THAT CAPTURED MYTHS THAT FEEL, FELT FAMILIAR AS IF SOMEONE WE GREW UP WITH. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, TO HIGHLIGHT THE IMPORTANCE OF STORYTELLING AND HOW THIS HUMAN TRAIT ALLOWS US TO TRULY FIND FREEDOM, ADVENTURE, AND UNDERSTANDING. WE INTRODUCED LOCAL BIRDS TO ADD A SENSE OF MOVEMENT THROUGHOUT THE PIECE, WHILE A RED RIBBON WEAVES THROUGH THE NARRATIVE SUBTLY AND SYMBOLIC SYMBOLICALLY CONNECTING THE FIGURES ACROSS OUR STORY. UH, THE FOLLOWING SIDES ARE SUPERIMPOSED IMAGES, SO YOU CAN SEE KIND OF HOW THE, THE PIECE MOVES AND THE NARRATIVE. UM, SO THE NARRATIVE STARTS, AND YOU KIND OF ARE MEANT TO FOLLOW THE PIECE AROUND. WE WANTED, UM, THIS SIDE TO FEEL ORGANIC AND TO TRANSITION FROM A COOL TONE TO A WARM TONE. WE WANTED THE DOOR TO REMAIN VISIBLE IN ORDER, UM, BASED ON THE CHEMICAL PLACARD AND THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IF ANY ISSUES HAPPEN, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND ANY EMERGENCY AGENCIES COULD HAVE EASILY FIND THE DOOR. AND THAT'S IT. , I'VE BEEN HELP. SORRY, DO WE, THEY HERE FOR QUESTIONS OR TO DO THAT MUCH FASTER THAN THAT THOUGHT. UH, . SO HAPPY TO, UH, OBVIOUSLY ON STAFF AND AREN AREN AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. YOU, CONGRATULATIONS FOR, FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU. BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S A LOT OF PROCESS, A LOT OF SUB MACHINES, AND SO GREAT TO SEE YOU IN PERSON BECAUSE I READ ABOUT YOU. I WAS LIKE, WOW, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU FOR WORKING ON THIS PROJECT FOR US. THANK YOU. SO WE'LL START WITH THE QUESTIONS. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. UM, SEAN, AND, AND TO THE TWO OF YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR STAYING SO LATE. UH, I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION. UM, YOU, YOU MENTIONED THE RED RIBBON. I, I DIDN'T SEE THAT. I WAS HOPING YOU COULD JUST EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE MORE. UH, YEAH. DURING, UH, OUR, OUR INITIAL PROPOSAL, UH, WE KIND OF HAD POTENTIAL CONCEPTS TO PURSUE. AND ONE OF THE IDEAS WAS, UH, TO INTRODUCE BIRDS AS A WAY OF, OF CREATING MOVEMENT THROUGH THE PIECE. AND KIND OF, UH, HELPING WITH, UH, A VIEWER UNDERSTAND THE DIRECTION OF THE NARRATIVE. UH, AND WE HAD A, A BIRD CARRYING A STRING IN. ONE OF OUR THINGS WE MENTIONED WAS MAYBE WE COULD HAVE, UM, THIS IDEA OF HOW YOU COULD THREAD EACH FIGURE THROUGH, THROUGH THIS ROPE THAT, UH, OR THROUGH THIS, UH, RED STRING THAT THE BIRD WAS CARRYING. AND, UH, THE ARTS COUNCIL MENTIONED THAT THAT WAS A, A GOOD IDEA. SO WE, WE TOOK THAT AND WE KIND OF HAD LITTLE, LITTLE DETAILS OF EACH FIGURE WHERE THEY HAVE, UH, A RED KIND OF A STRING IN ON THE CHARACTER. SO EACH CHARACTER THAT THE, UH, CHILD IS READING ABOUT AND THAT KIND OF, UM, UH, THAT COLOR IS MATCHED ON, ON THE JACKET. SO THIS IDEA OF LIKE, THEY'RE ALL KIND OF, THERE'S A THROUGH LINE BETWEEN THEM ALL. GOT IT. OKAY. SO MORE INTERPRETIVE, LESS, UM, YEAH. YEAH. CONCRETE . YEAH. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. PERFECT. THANK YOU. I THOUGHT I WAS MISSING THING. THAT'LL DETAIL. THERE'S, I APPRECIATE THAT. AND YOU CAN SEE IT ON THE LAST FIGURE TOO, ON THE DOOR THERE. YEAH. AND WE, WE, WE DID A REDUNDANT BIRD HERE, UH MM-HMM . BUT WE ARE GONNA REPLACE [02:30:01] THAT BIRD WITH ANOTHER NATIVE BIRD. THAT'S THE GOAL. VERY NICE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS. I HAVE SEVERAL. THANK YOU. UM, FIRST OF ALL, I REALLY LIKE IT. UM, MY QUESTIONS ARE PROBABLY MORE FOR SEAN, UM, A LITTLE BIT PROCEDURAL. UM, THE, THE SELECTION COMMITTEE IS MADE UP OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS. IS ANYBODY FROM HERITAGE CULTURAL ARTS ON THAT SELECTION COMMITTEE? YEAH. SO WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO BE INTENTIONAL. UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE PUT THIS SELECTION COMMITTEE TOGETHER, WE HAD A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE HERITAGE COMMISSION SERVED ON THAT MM-HMM . UM, TO KIND OF WHO WOULD BE A LIAISON MM-HMM . UH, BETWEEN, UM, BUT THEN IT WAS, WE HAD MEMBER OF THE DEL ARTS COLLECTIVE. IT WAS LOCAL, YOU KNOW, ART SCHOOL, BUSINESS OWNERS. UM, SO WE'RE, WE TRY TO PUT TOGETHER A DIVERSE PANEL, UM, OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS. OKAY. BUT ONLY ONE FROM, UH, HERITAGE AND CULTURAL ARTS. IT'S NOT LIKE A SUBCOMMITTEE OF HERITAGE AND CULTURAL ARTS THAT'S ON THAT COMMITTEE IN ADDITION TO THE REST OF THE SELECTION COMMITTEE. OKAY. UM, JUST FROM A PROCESS STANDPOINT. UM, AND NOTHING ABOUT THE ART THAT WAS SELECTED, JUST SO DON'T BE NERVOUS, , JUST THE, UM, THE, THE PROCESS OF THE ART SELECTION COMMITTEE DESIGNING THE CRITERIA, BUT NOT BEING THE DECISION MAKERS BASED ON THAT CRITERIA. THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT THAT THAT, I MEAN, I KNOW WE CONTINUALLY REFINING THE PROCESS, UM, BUT MAYBE HAVING TWO FROM HERITAGE AND CULTURE ARTS ON THE SELECTION COMMITTEE WHEN WE ARE THE NEXT TIME WE DO THIS. 'CAUSE I KNOW WE'VE HAD EMAILS, MAYBE NOT ABOUT, WE'VE HAD EMAILS ABOUT ARTISTS THAT WERE LIKE, WE WERE GIVEN CRITERIA. WE, WE DESIGNED TO THAT CRITERIA, AND THEN THE PEOPLE MAKING THE CHOICES WERE MAKING CHOICES NOT BASED ON THAT CRITERIA. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? YEAH. WELL, I THINK WE TRIED TO BE STRATEGIC. THAT'S WHAT WE WENT TO THE HERITAGE COMMISSION FIRST. UHHUH DEVELOPED THE CRITERIA. OKAY. THAT CARRIED OVER. SO THE SELECTION COMMITTEE SAW THAT. OKAY. SO THE SELECTION COMMITTEE DIDN'T DESIGN THE CRITERIA SO MUCH, THE HERITAGE CULTURE ARTS DID. THEY PROVIDED PERFECT. OKAY. UH, THEY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY AT THE FIRST MEETING TO LOOK AT IT AND WEIGH IN, BE AS THEY WERE DEVELOPING OR LOOKING AT THE FIRST ROUND MM-HMM . BUT BY THAT POINT, I MEAN, IT WAS ALREADY THERE IN THE SECOND MEETING WHEN THEY WERE ACTUALLY MAKING A RECOMMENDATION MM-HMM . THAT, THAT WAS ALREADY ESTABLISHED. OKAY. SO THEY CAME BACK TO THE HERITAGE COMMISSION MEETING OR COMMISSION. IT WAS ALL THE SAME, THE SAME CRITERIA SHOWN. OKAY. GOOD. AND THEN, UM, AS IT, THE, THE PUBLIC COMMENT PROCESS, UM, YOU SAID IT WASN'T STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT AND IT, UM, MAYBE WASN'T EVEN DOUBLE IN RESIDENCE. CAN YOU TALK JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HOW, HOW AND WHERE AND THROUGH WHAT METHODS WE COLLECTED THAT PUBLIC COMMENT FEEDBACK? UM, IT'S TRADITIONAL. SEE, WE PUT OUT A NEWS FLASH, YOU KNOW, SO IT GETS, IT GETS BROADCASTED OUT. UM, PRIMARILY I THINK WHEN A LOT OF FEEDBACK CAME FROM ACTUALLY PARTICIPANTS AT THE LIBRARY. SO WE HAD IT DISPLAYED AS YOU WALKED INTO THE LIBRARY. OKAY. UM, AND IT WAS JUST, IT WAS AN EASY QR CODE TO SCAN, AND IT WAS JUST A SIMPLE, YOU KNOW, TO BE HONEST, IT WAS A MICROSOFT FORM. SO IT WAS, IT WAS REAL SIMPLE, REAL EASY. YOU DIDN'T NEED TO LOG IN AND YOU MM-HMM . YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T ANTICIPATE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN LOOK AT THE ENTRIES AND THE DATA, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN THINK SOMEBODY JUST STOOD THERE 30 TIMES OVER AND, YOU KNOW, PUT IN THE SAME COMMENT. UM, BUT WHAT WE REALLY DID, WE TOOK ALL THAT FEEDBACK, YOU KNOW, THE 700 PLUS COMMENTS STAFF, WE REALLY TRIED TO IDENTIFY, YOU KNOW, CONSISTENT THEMES AND KIND OF NARRATIVES MM-HMM . AND THAT WAS THEN PROVIDED TO THE ARTIST, UM, AHEAD OF THE HERITAGE COMMISSION MEETING. SO THAT'S WHERE YOU SAW, YOU KNOW, THE ADDITION OF THE, THE ORACLE FIGURE. MM-HMM . UM, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS SOME OPPORTUNITY THERE TO KIND OF SOLICIT SOME OF THE FEEDBACK OR TAKE SOME OF THAT FEEDBACK INTO CONSIDERATION. THE HERITAGE COMMISSION ALSO SAW THAT FEEDBACK, AND SO AS THEY WERE REVIEWING THE PROPOSALS, WE'RE ABLE TO, TO HAVE THAT AS FOR CONSIDERATION AS WELL, UHHUH. AND WHAT WAS, UM, WHAT WAS AT THE LIBRARY, YOU SAID IT WAS MORE CONCEPTUAL, SO IT WASN'T AS POLISHED AS THIS, IT, IT KIND OF PICTURES OF A PRINTED, I DON'T REMEMBER HOW BIG ON LIKE A DISPLAY BOARD IN THE DISPLAY CASE, BUT PICTURES, BUT SIMILAR TO SIMILAR, YEAH. SIMILAR TO THIS AS, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY NOT THESE FINAL ONES, BUT THIS SORT OF, THIS, THIS AMOUNT OF DETAIL, THIS AMOUNT OF PROPOSAL. CORRECT. OKAY. AND THEN, UM, YOU SAID THE HERITAGE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSIONER, THE SELECTION COMMISSION SAW, WAS IT SELECT COMMITTEE OR HERITAGE AND CULTURE ARTS SAW THE FEEDBACK, THE HERITAGE COMMISSION. 'CAUSE THE FEEDBACK CAME AFTER, AFTER THE SELECT COMMITTEE. OKAY. UM, AND YOU SAID THEY SAW ALL THE FEEDBACK? THEY SAW ALL THE FEEDBACK, OR THEY SAW A SUMMARY OF THE FEEDBACK? SUMMARY OF THE FEEDBACK. OKAY. UM, SO THEY DIDN'T ACTUALLY GET TO SEE THE ACTUAL COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE? NO. THEY DIDN'T SEE THE, THE 700 UHHUH RAW COMMENTS? NO. IT WAS A AND WHY, WHY NOT? NO, I JUST THINK IT WAS, YOU KNOW, STAFF WAS LOOKING THROUGH THE, YOU KNOW, THROUGH IT AND TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, JUST, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE CONSISTENCY, TRYING TO HIGHLIGHT JUST CONSISTENT THEMES, YOU KNOW, NARRATIVES THAT WERE THERE. MM-HMM . OKAY. I THINK THERE'S, I MEAN, LOOKING AT THIS, THERE'S MAYBE OPPORTUNITIES. I MEAN, IT'S THE FIRST TIME WE TRY SOMETHING LIKE THIS, I THINK. RIGHT. YOU KNOW, THINKING THROUGH IT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S OPPORTUNITY LIKE, HEY, INSTEAD OF JUST DOING A SURVEY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT'S A, YOU KNOW, NIGHT ON ZOOM, YOU KNOW, WITH THE ARTISTS PRESENT, YOU KNOW, SO IT WAS, IT WAS REALLY US TRYING TO GET THIS, YOU KNOW, [02:35:01] GIVE THE COMMUNITY ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY. YEAH. YEAH. WE'VE DONE A LOT OF FEEDBACK. I MEAN, I APPRECIATE THE IDEA OF GOING OUT FOR FEEDBACK, RIGHT. WE'VE DONE THAT IN A LOT OF WAYS, WHETHER WE'VE DONE IT AT, UM, UH, SOMETHING LIKE SPLATTER WHERE WE HAVE DOT BOARDS FOR A NEW PARK, OR, YOU KNOW, LOT, LOTS OF DIFFERENT WAYS WE CAN, UM, GET FEEDBACK, WHICH I APPLAUD. I'M JUST WONDERING HOW WE'RE THEN USING THAT FEEDBACK, RIGHT. HOW ARE WE, UM, GIVING IT TO THE, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE, HOW WAS THE COMMITTEE THAT'S RECOMMENDING TO US TAKING THAT FEEDBACK THAT WE ASKED FOR? RIGHT. UM, I THINK THAT'S THE EXTENT OF MY QUESTIONS FOR RIGHT THIS MINUTE. THANK YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU. SO, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS TO THE LAWYERS? , I VERY MUCH APPRECIATED YOUR USE OF COLORS. I LIKE THEM A LOT. AND I LIKE THE THEME, UH, SEAN QUESTION, , THANK YOU. GET YOU GUYS UP. UM, SO GETTING BACK TO PROCESS, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT THESE, THESE, UH, THE, THE LAWYERS ARE VERY TALENTED, AND I THINK THIS IS, THIS IS BEAUTIFUL. UM, HOW MUCH, UH, I MEAN, IT WAS A VERY METHODICAL PROCESS, THE RFQ PROCESS, HOW MUCH EFFORT WAS PLACED ON, UH, SEEKING OUT LOCAL, UM, ARTISTS FROM AROUND THE TRI-VALLEY? AND, AND I, I GUESS, I MEAN, YOU'RE GONNA TELL ME, BUT I, I'D LIKE TO SEE, I MAYBE, MAYBE I'M LEADING TO YOU, IS LIKE, I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE EFFORT IN DOING THAT IN THE FUTURE. BUT HOW, WHAT WAS THE PROCESS? WAS IT JUST VERY, VERY, HEY, YOU GOT SOME VERY TALENTED FOLKS HERE AND YEAH. THESE GUYS ARE GOOD AND LET'S GO WITH IT. RIGHT. THAT THAT'S PART OF IT. YEAH. UM, I MEAN, WE DEFINITELY, WE, WE TRY TO GO AS BROAD AS POSSIBLE. UM, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, PROJECT GOALS, BUDGET KIND OF DRIVES WHERE SOME OF THE INTEREST IS COMING FROM. YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE DOING A, A $300,000, YOU KNOW, SCULPTURE PROJECT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA START GETTING INTERNATIONAL ARTISTS THAT ARE GONNA MM-HMM . MAYBE, YOU KNOW, PIQUE THEIR INTEREST. UM, I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING I, I THINK WILL KIND OF OPEN TO THAT. WE HAVE, AND I KNOW SOME AGENCIES WILL KIND OF, DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, THE SKIES AND SCALE OF A PROJECT, WE'LL LIMIT IT TO THE NINE BAY AREA COUNTIES, THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, YOU KNOW, WESTERN UNITED STATES. I MEAN, SO THAT IS, THAT IS SOMETHING WE COULD CONSIDER. YEAH. I'D LIKE TO ENCOURAGE, UM, FOLKS, THERE'S SOME TALENT IN THIS VALLEY AND IT WOULD BE GREAT, UH, WHERE WHEREVER THAT SOURCE IS, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE PROFESSIONAL ARTISTS, IT COULD BE EVEN, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE SCHOOLS, WHATEVER. UH, JUST THROWING STUFF OUT THERE. YEAH. LOCAL ARTS ORGANIZATIONS, YOU, YOU GET SOME REALLY TALENTED PEOPLE AND IT WOULD BE GREAT, UH, UH, TO HAVE FOLKS LIKE THAT INVOLVED IN OTHER PROJECTS. AND WE DO, RIGHT. WE HAVE 'EM VARIOUS OTHER PROJECTS, BUT BECAUSE THEY'RE PART OF THE, THEY'RE PART OF OUR BROADENED COMMUNITY. RIGHT. AND I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT. YEAH. CONSIDERATION IN, IN THE FUTURE IS PART OF THE PROCESS. THAT'S ALL. GREAT JOB. THANK YOU. . YEAH. SO COUNCIL MEMBER MARADA. UM, HI. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UH, SEAN, TWO QUESTIONS FOR YOU. AND THEN, UH, ONE QUESTION FOR THE ARTISTS. UH, THE, UH, FIRST QUESTION IS THE LOCATION OF THE, UH, THE SHED. IF THAT, IF, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, UM, I KNOW WHERE THAT IS. UM, UH, WHAT'S YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR LIGHTING SO THAT, UH, WE CAN CONTINUE TO, TO, TO SHARE THE VIBRANCY OF THE COLORS OF THE, OF THE ARTWORK? UH, NO DIRECT LIGHTING IS PLANNED FOR THIS. IT'LL JUST BE, YOU KNOW, PATHWAY OVERHEAD LIGHTING, UM, YOU KNOW, PARKING LOT, SAFETY LIGHTING AT NIGHT THAT'LL, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY ON, ON SOME BEEN ON THE BACKSIDE PATHWAY LIGHTING, BUT NO ADDITIONAL LIGHTING IS PLANNED FOR THIS PROJECT. OKAY. IS THAT, UH, JUST FOR BUDGET REASONS, OR WE JUST DIDN'T THINK ABOUT IT YET? UM, IT'S, THERE'S DEFINITELY A BUD. I MEAN, WE, IF THERE, IF THAT'S OF INTEREST, I MEAN, IT'S SOMETHING WE COULD DEFINITELY PURSUE. IT'S, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A BUDGET IMPACT THERE. UM, PROBABLY SIGNIFICANT, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THE, OF THE OVERALL SCOPE OF THIS PROJECT. UH, BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE COULD OKAY. UM, THAT'S FINE, SEAN. I'M, YOU CAN MAKE IT THE, THE, THE LOWER END OF THINGS, UH, TO CONSIDER. UM, QUESTION NUMBER TWO FOR YOU, SEAN, IS, UH, ONCE AGAIN, THE LOCATION OF THE, OF THE SHED. UH, HAVE YOU CONSIDERED HOW THIS WOULD EITHER BE ADDITIVE TO OR COMPLEMENTARY TO THE, THE MARKETPLACE THAT WE HAVE DURING ST. PAT'S, AS WELL AS, UH, OTHER, UH, OTHER EVENTS THAT WE HOLD WITHIN THE, THE PARKING LOT? YEAH. I MEAN, IT'S ULTIMATELY WHEN THE, THE ENCLOSURES THERE. NOW, IT'S BUILT, I MEAN, WE DEFINITELY LOST A LITTLE BIT OF, YOU KNOW, REAL ESTATE FOR ST. PATRICK'S SAFE FESTIVAL. UM, I MEAN, MY HOPE IS THIS WOULD MAYBE ENHANCE THAT A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, BY BRINGING ART, YOU KNOW, AS PEOPLE ARE WALKING, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE VENDOR ROWS UM HMM. OPPOSED TO JUST A, A BIG CMU WALL. UH, SO MAYBE BRING A LITTLE BIT OF ART INTO ST. PAT'S OR IT [02:40:01] OKAY. YEAH. UM, YOU'RE, YOU'RE ON THE SAME PAGE AS ME. UM, I'D HATE FOR THE, THE, THE POPUP TENTS TO, TO COVER THE ART. THAT'S ALL THE, BECAUSE OF THE LOCATION, JUST WITH CIRCULATION AND FIRE ACCESS. THERE'S NO, NO TENSE VENDORS RIGHT IN FRONT OF THAT, THAT THAT STAYS OPEN. AH, FANTASTIC. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU, SEAN. UH, AND THEN, UH, IF I MAY ADDRESS THE ARTIST, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE. YES, YES, YES, I WOULD. PLEASE. UH, GOOD EVENING. UM, I HAVE, UH, JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION. UH, DID I HEAR CORRECTLY THAT THERE ARE STILL SOME EFFORTS AND RESEARCH TO FINALIZE ON THE FIGURES THEMSELVES? THAT IS CORRECT, YES. UH, I MEAN, WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING WITH THE ART COUNCIL AND KIND OF GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS, WHICH IS PRETTY STANDARD USUALLY, AT LEAST FOR US, WHEN WE'RE WORKING ON A PROJECT, JUST FINE TUNING EVERYTHING AND BEING AS THOUGHTFUL AS WE CAN BE. UH, FANTASTIC. I LOVE IT. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT, UH, YOU'LL PERFORM YOUR OWN NECESSARY DUE DILIGENCE TO, TO UNDERSTAND, LEARN, AND TO OBSERVE THE DIVERSITY OF THE PEOPLE, THE CULTURE, THE DRESS, UH, OF OUR PEOPLE, OF, OF DUBLIN. OKAY. UH, UH, THAT'S IT, MAYOR FOR ME. UM, I WILL SAVE MY CLOSING COMMENTS AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT. OKAY. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER. SO THANK YOU. GREAT WORK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, JEAN. SO I DO HAVE A, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS TO ASK. SO HOW LONG THIS KIND OF, UH, LIKE A ARTWORK CAN, CAN STAY THERE? LIKE A, THERE'S A RAIN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A ALL KIND OF WEATHER. YEAH. SO, UH, WHENEVER WE ARE PAINTING A MURAL, OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE IT LAST AS LONG AS POSSIBLE. SUN DAMAGE IS ALWAYS KIND OF THE PRI UH, THE MAIN ISSUE. AND THAT'S KIND OF THE LIFE OF THE PAINT. AND WE, WE PRIORITIZE HIGH QUALITY PAINT, UH, THAT'S MEANT TO BE, UH, HAVE ADDITIONAL PIGMENTS SO IT CAN LAST AS LONG AS POSSIBLE. SO, UH, WE ALWAYS SAY LIKE A SAFE ESTIMATE BEING LIKE 20, 25, MAYBE 30 YEARS, DEPENDING ON, UH, HOW MUCH DIRECT SUNLIGHT IT GETS. OH, THAT SOUNDS GOOD. YEAH. AND, AND THE PIGMENT WE USE IS APPROVED BY LIKE, CALTRANS. WE'VE DONE PROJECTS WITH THEM WHERE IT'S LIKE, IT'S APPROVED, IT'S AN APPROVED, UM, USED MATERIAL. YEAH. PERFECT. THANK YOU. UM, SO IT'S JUST MAKE A SMALL SUGGESTION. YOU SAID THAT WE ARE STILL LOOKING AT THOSE, UH, LIKE FIGURES, RIGHT? LIKE THE PEOPLE THERE, WE CAN MAKE SOME TRICKS. SO I, I TRYING TO BALANCE THAT. WE SEE LIKE THREE FEMALES, ONE MALE, YOU KNOW, ONE LITTLE BOY. MAYBE WE CAN ALSO BALANCE FEMALE AND A MALE SOMEHOW JUST FOR, FOR, FOR SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. IF WE CANNOT, WE CANNOT, IT'S OKAY. OKAY. GO AHEAD. LIKE THREE MINUTES, DEFINITELY. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH, THAT'S JUST MY QUICK COMMENT, BUT LOVE THE ARTWORK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND DO WE, DO WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS? I HAVE NO SPEAKER, SO, OKAY. SO WE DON'T HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT THAT'S COME BACK. ANY MORE COMMENTS WE WANT TO MAKE ON THIS ONE? YEAH, PLEASE. UM, I REALLY LOVE THE WORK. UM, I LOVE THE COLORS, I LOVE THE THEME. I LOVE THE IDEA OF THE KID READING, AND THEN SORT OF ALL OF THESE THINGS. UM, I LIKE THE EXPLANATION OF, UM, WHAT THE CHARACTERS REPRESENT. UM, I DID ASK FOR AND GOT RIGHT BEFORE THE MEETING, THE, UM, THE FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC. AND, UM, I KNOW YOU'RE STILL TWEAKING THINGS. UM, I KNOW YOU, YOU'VE READ THE FEEDBACK MM-HMM . THE PUBLIC COMMENT, WHICH THE HERITAGE CULTURAL ARTS KID, AND I, I HOPE THAT YOU CAN GET THAT TO EVERYBODY ELSE ON COUNCIL. BUT THE, UM, THE COMMENTS SORT OF OVERWHELMINGLY, THE, THE THEME THROUGH THE COMMENTS, UM, WERE, EVERYBODY LOVES IT. THEY LOVE THE VIBRANT COLORS, UM, BUT THE CHARACTERS THEMSELVES DON'T NECESSARILY SAY DUBLIN TO THEM. UM, AND SO I, I, I LOVE THE CONCEPT, AND I'M HOPING THAT WHEN WE GET THE DESIGN BACK, THAT THEY WILL REALLY BE REFLECTIVE OF DUBLIN. UM, BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT'S THE, THE, THE PIECE THAT THE 700 COMMENTERS WERE SAYING, THIS IS GREAT, BUT IS IT DUBLIN? UM, AND SO THE, THE THEME IS FANTASTIC. UM, THE, THE, I LOVE THE BIRD. I LOVE THE, THE THREAD. I LOVE THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT HIS MIND IS BEING EXPANDED TO ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE NOT NECESSARILY HIM, UM, THROUGH, THROUGH THE ARTWORK. UM, I JUST, YOU KNOW, THAT SEEMED TO BE THE OVERARCHING THEME THAT WE NEED THESE PEOPLE TO BE DUBLIN. UM, I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT THAT MEANS, BUT I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT WHEN IT COMES BACK TO US. THANK YOU. THAT'S GOOD. THANK YOU. YEAH, THANK YOU. ANY MORE COMMENTS? MORE COMMENTS FROM YOU? YOU SURE? YEAH, YEAH. COUNCIL MEMBER RI, SO, EIGHT, I APPRECIATE, UH, APPRECIATE THE ARTWORK. UH, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE OUTREACH AND, AND PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. I THINK THAT THAT PIECE OF IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. [02:45:01] UM, I LIKE THE PLAYFUL MOVEMENT, ALMOST WHIMSICAL. UM, I, I SEE THE STORY, AND, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, IT, IT SORT OF UNFOLDS. AND THE FACT THAT IT'S GONNA BE ON, ON, UH, ON THE MULTIPLE SIDES, IT, IT'S, IT'S INTRIGUING. UM, YEAH, IF THERE'S A WAY TO MAKE IT MORE DUBLIN, GREAT. RIGHT? UM, I, I DON'T KNOW. LIKE, I DON'T WANT TO, UH, SORT OF FORCE MY, MY THOUGHTS, WHICH, WHICH ARE PROBABLY LIKE A LITTLE MORE LITERAL AND LESS ABSTRACT, BUT YOU'RE THE ARTIST AND, AND, AND I LOVE WHAT YOU'VE DONE. SO THANK YOU. UM, COUNCIL MEMBER MORADA, UH, THANK YOU, MAYOR. UH, YES. UH, SIMPLY, UH, ONE COMMENT FOR SEAN, AND THEN ONE FOR THE ARTIST, UH, SEAN, PERFECT TIMING, BY THE WAY, CONSIDERING WHAT MONDAY IS, UH, AS A NATIONAL HOLIDAY. UM, GREAT TIMING ON BRINGING THIS UP. SO GOOD WORK. UH, AND THEN COMMENT FOR THE ARTIST. UM, I REALLY LIKE HOW YOU'RE USING THE IDEA OF, OF A, OF A PROTAGONIST, UH, LEARNING. AND THEN ALSO THE OTHER CHARACTERS THEMSELVES ARE PROTAGONIST IN THEIR OWN STORY. UM, KEEP IT UP. THAT IS, UH, THAT IS, I THINK, A VERY ASSERTIVE WAY. NOT, NOT IN A BAD MEANING, ASSERTIVE MEANING. IT'S, IT'S A GREAT WAY TO SHOW AND INSPIRE OUR KIDS THAT THEY TOO CAN INSPIRE TO BE THE PRO PROTAGONIST OF THEIR OWN STORY AND BE THE LEADERS THAT THEY ASPIRE TO BE. SO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, EVERYONE. BUT WE DO NEED TO MAKE A MOTION. DO WE, WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION. MAY I APPROVE? I, I MOVE. WE APPROVE THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGN OF THE ARTWORK PROPOSED BY ROUGH EDGE COLLECTIVE FOR THE OUTDOOR MURALS PROJECT. THANK YOU. OH, SECOND. WE GOT THE FIRST AND SECOND. AND DO THE ROLL, ROLL CALL. COUNCILMAN MARADA. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER CADRY AYE. COUNCILMAN HORTEN. AYE. VICE MAYOR JOSIE. AYE. MAYOR WHO? AYE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. WOW, THAT'S A GOOD WORK. SO, LET'S MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM 8.3, [8.3 Presentation on Police Activity and Ongoing Public Safety Efforts ] TAKING ON POLICE ACTIVITY AND ONGOING PUBLIC SAFETY EFFORTS. WELL, GOOD EVENING AGAIN, UH, COUNSEL VIC FOX, UH, CHIEF OF POLICE COUNSEL. THIS ITEM IS A, UH, AN OVERVIEW OF POLICE ACTIVITY AND ONGOING PUBLIC SAFETY EFFORTS FROM DPS TO PROTECT THIS COMMUNITY. UM, I HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION TO GO OVER. I'M GONNA TRY TO GET THROUGH THIS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. SO, JUST FOR BACKGROUND, UM, WE TRACK AND ANALYZE, UH, OUR DATA ALL THE TIME, UH, OUR OPERATIONAL DATA TO EVALUATE OUR SERVICE DEMANDS, ALLOCATE RESOURCES, AND INFORM OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING. UH, THIS INFORMATION IS SHARED WITH COUNCIL, PROVIDE TRANSPARENCY, HIGHLIGHT TRENDS, AND DEMONSTRATE HOW DPS IS RESPONDING TO COMMUNITY SAFETY NEEDS. SO, WE'RE GONNA JUMP RIGHT IN. SORRY ABOUT THAT. WE'RE GONNA JUMP RIGHT INTO POLICE ACTIVITIES, SO POLICE ACTIVITIES OR ANY OPERATION TO ENFORCE LAWS TO MAINTAIN ORDER AND PROTECT THE COMMUNITY. AND THOSE INCLUDE OUR INVESTIGATIONS, OUR EMERGENCY RESPONSES, ENFORCEMENT OF LAWS, AND COMMUNITY POLICING. FOR THIS, CATE, FOR THIS TABLE JUST BELOW, POLICE ACTIVITIES ARE DIVIDED INTO ONE OF TWO CATEGORIES. COMMUNITY INITIATED AND OFFICER INITIATED COMMUNITY INITIATED OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE THAT A CSO DISPATCH RECEIVES FROM INDIVIDUALS. UH, REPORTING AN INCIDENT WITHIN THE CITY OF DUBLIN, AN OFFICER INITIATED ACTIVITIES OR ACTIVITIES THAT DPS OFFICER INITIATES ON THEIR OWN. NOW LOOKING AT THE DATA FROM 23 TO 24, THERE WAS A SLIGHT INCREASE IN COMMUNITY INITIATED ACTIVITY, AND THEN IT DROPPED OFF, UH, A LITTLE OVER 6% IN 2025. OFFICER INITIATED ACTIVITY, UH, SAW A SHARP DECREASE FROM 23 TO 24, UM, JUST OVER 29%, AND THEN DECREASED AGAIN IN 2025, UH, 12,766, OR 15.67%. LET'S TALK ABOUT, UH, CALL PRIORITY LEVELS. SO WHEN A CALL COMES IN TO EMERGENCY SERVICES DISPATCH, OR WHEN AN OFFICER TAKES, UH, A SELF-INITIATED ACTIVITY, OUR, OUR DISPATCH PROGRAM ASSIGNS IT A PRIORITY LEVEL. NOW, THE PRIORITY LEVELS RANGE FROM ZERO TO NINE. FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS PRESENTATION, MOST OF OUR CRIME DATA, THE PRIORITIES RUN FROM ONE THROUGH FIVE. I'M GONNA GO OVER THE OTHER PRIORITIES REALLY QUICK, JUST SO YOU KNOW WHAT THEY ARE. SO, PRIORITY ZERO ARE UNIT EMERGENCIES, AND THESE ARE SELF-REPORTED EMERGENCIES BY AN A CSO OR DUBLIN POLICE SERVICES STAFF MEMBER. THOSE DO NOT COME FROM THE COMMUNITY. UH, FOR 2025, UH, [02:50:01] WE HAD SEVEN PRIORITY ZERO CALLS. UH, MOST OF THE TIME, THAT IS AN INADVERTENT ACTIVATION OF THE EMERGENCY BUTTON ON THE OFFICER'S RADIO. SO IT'S JUST, IT'S, IT'S AN ACCIDENTAL ACTIVATION. SO WE HAVE SEVEN OF THOSE IN 2025 PRIORITY ONES. THOSE ARE OUR CALLS IN PROGRESS. UM, THOSE WILL REQUIRE IMMEDIATE RESPONSE DUE TO IMMINENT PUBLIC OR OFFICER SAFETY ISSUE, AND THEY INVOLVE INJURY. AND THOSE ARE GONNA BE OUR ASSAULT WITH THE DEADLY WEAPONS, ROBBERIES, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, 9 1 1 CALLS, MEDICAL EMERGENCIES, AND EVEN SILENT COMMERCIAL ALARMS, SUCH AS THOSE THAT COME FROM A BANK, A PANIC BUTTON. MOVING ON TO PRIORITY TWO. PRIORITY TWO ARE ALSO, UM, CALLS THAT ARE IN PROGRESS OR JUST OCCUR, BUT DO NOT POSE AN IMMINENT THREAT. AND EXAMPLES OF THESE CALLS INCLUDE PETTY THEFTS, DISTURBANCES, SUSPICIOUS PERSONS, OR VEHICLES, UH, AUDIBLE ALARMS, TRAFFIC COLLISIONS WITH NO REPORTED INJURIES AND TRAFFIC STOPS. SO, UM, TRAFFIC STOPS BY OUR OFFICERS. THOSE ARE PRIORITY TWO INCIDENTS. SO PRIORITY THREE THROUGH FIVE. THOSE ARE USED FOR, UH, REPORTS, UH, AND OTHER ACTIVITIES. AND THESE ARE FOR INCIDENTS THAT HAVE ALREADY OCCURRED. THERE'S NO THREAT TO THE PUBLIC AND NO REPORTED EVIDENCE OF A SUSPECT BEING PRESENT. SO MOST OF THE TIME IT'S FOR OUR, IT'S FOR OUR COLD REPORTS, AND THOSE WOULD INCLUDE, UH, AUTO BURGLARIES, VEHICLE THEFTS, PATROL CHECKS, ILLEGALLY PARKED VEHICLES. THAT'S THREE THROUGH FIVE PRIORITY SIX THROUGH EIGHT. THOSE ARE DISCRETIONARY USED WHEN NO OTHER ACTIVITY CODES EXIST. I CAN TELL YOU FOR 2025, WE HAD ZERO INCIDENTS OF THESE PRIORITY LEVELS. AND PRIORITY NINE IS USED AS A TEST CODE. SORRY, IT'S BLOCKED BY THE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER. WE'RE ON A SCREEN. UH, BUT THIS TABLE RIGHT HERE BREAKS DOWN, UH, ALL THE CALLS FOR SERVICE BASED ON PRIORITY LEVEL AND FOR SIMPLICITY PURPOSES. UM, THOSE CALLS THREE THROUGH FIVE, WE'RE CALLING THOSE THREE PLUS. SO, PRIORITY ONE CALLS FROM 23 TO 24, DECLINED, UM, 10.61%, AND THEY DECLINED, UH, JUST UNDER A HALF PERCENT LAST YEAR. PRIORITY TWO CALLS, UM, ALSO DECLINED, UH, 2.91% FROM 23 TO 24, AND THEN DECLINED AGAIN. UH, ANOTHER 10.38% IN 2025 PRIORITY THREE PLUS, AGAIN, MOST OF THOSE ARE REPORTS. THE REPORTS DECLINED, UH, 28.29% FROM 23 TO 24, AND DECLINED AGAIN, ANOTHER 12.93% IN 2025. SO LESS PAPER, LESS REPORTS ARE BEING TAKEN. SO RESPONSE TIMES. SO RESPONSE TIMES ARE DEFINED AS THE TIME, UH, UH, THE DISPATCHER DISPATCHES THE CALL AND THE TIME THE OFFICER ARRIVES AT THE LOCATION. SO, FOR THE PURPOSE OF THESE STATS, WE DID NOT INCLUDE OFFICER INITIATED CALLS, BECAUSE THE TIME THAT THE OFFICER SEES A VIOLATION TO THE TIME THAT THEY ARE ON THE DETAIL IS ALMOST ZERO. SO THAT'S GONNA INCLUDE A BUSINESS CHECK, A PATROL CHECK OF A STREET, OR A TRAFFIC STOP. WE DO NOT INCLUDE THOSE IN THESE STATS FOR RESPONSE TIMES. SO FOR PRIORITY ONE CALLS, UH, AS I JUST DISCUSSED, UH, THERE WAS A SLIGHT DECLINE IN THE RESPONSE TIME FROM SEVEN MINUTES AND 20 SECONDS TO SIX MINUTES AND 42 SECONDS IN 2024. AND THAT INCREASED ABOUT 6% IN 2025 TO SEVEN MINUTES AND EIGHT SECONDS. PRIORITY TWO CALLS, UH, INCREASED VERY SLIGHTLY FROM 23 TO 24. AND THEN IN 2025, THEY, UH, INCREASED TO, UH, SEVEN MINUTES AND 54 SECONDS, 6.76% INCREASE. MOVING ON TO REPORTS. SO EVERY MONTH, UH, BY THE 10TH OF THE MONTH, I BELIEVE DPS REPORTS ALL OF OUR DATA AND ALL OF OUR REPORTS, THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, THEIR CRIME REPORTING SYSTEM, IT'S CALLED THE CALIFORNIA INCIDENT BASED REPORTING SYSTEM, OR CYBERS. AND IT'S ALIGNED WITH THE FBI'S EQUIVALENT, WHICH IS THE NATIONAL INCIDENT BASED REPORTING SYSTEM, OR NBRS. NBRS CAPTURES A NATIONAL, UH, SNAPSHOT OF CRIME. CYBERS CAPTURES CALIFORNIA CRIME. WHEN THE INFORMATION GOES INTO CYBERS, UH, IT IS SORTED OUT. AND CYBERS CLASSIFIES CRIMES INTO THREE BROAD CATEGORIES BASED ON WHO OR WHAT IS PRIMARILY HARMED. THE FIRST CATEGORY IS, UH, CRIMES AGAINST PERSON. THESE ARE OFFENSES WHERE, UH, THE VICTIM IS AN INDIVIDUAL, AND THE CRIME INVOLVES, UH, THREATENED PHYSICAL HARM. [02:55:01] SO, HOMICIDE, ROBBERY, ASSAULTS, THOSE ARE YOUR, YOUR VIOLENT, UH, FELONIES FOR THE MOST PART. NUMBER TWO IS CRIMES AGAINST PROPERTY. UH, THESE OFFENSES, OFFENSES INVOLVE TAKING OF DAMAGE TO, OR DESTRUCTION OF PROPERTY, RATHER THAN DIRECT PHYSICAL HARM TO A PERSON. SO EXAMPLES ARE BURGLARY, THEFT, VANDALISM, MOTOR THEFT, FRAUD, EMBEZZLEMENT, ET CETERA. JUST FOR A FEW EXAMPLES. THE LAST IS CRIMES AGAINST SOCIETY. AND THESE ARE OFFENSES THAT PRIMARILY AFFECT PUBLIC ORDER AND COMMUNITY SAFETY, RATHER THAN, UH, TARGETING A SPECIFIC INDIVIDUAL OR PROPERTY. AND THESE ARE GONNA BE DRUG RELATED OFFENSES, DUIS, PROSTITUTIONS, PUBLIC DRUNKENNESS, WEAPONS VIOLATIONS. SO HERE'S OUR REPORTS FOR BY, BY THOSE CYBERS, UH, CLASSIFICATIONS, THOSE THREE CATEGORIES, AND AGAIN, AND I THINK I MAY HAVE MENTIONED IT, BUT THE STATS THAT WE'RE GIVING YOU, UH, FOR THIS PRESENTATION, OR THROUGH THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER, AS I MENTIONED, THOSE STATS ARE DUE TO THE STATE BY THE 10TH OF THE MONTH. SO THE 10TH OF JANUARY WOULD'VE BEEN FOR DECEMBER. IT WAS TOO LATE FOR THE STAFF REPORT. SO CRIMES AGAINST PERSONS DECLINED 1.17% FROM 23 TO 24, ANOTHER 3%, 3.5% FOR 2025 CRIMES AGAINST PROPERTY, UH, INCREASED SLIGHTLY FROM 23 TO 24, 7 0.36%, AND THEN IT DECLINED, UH, 20.78% IN 2025 CRIMES AGAINST THE SOCIETY, UH, DECREASED FROM DOWN 8.65% AND THEN DECREASED SUBSTANTIALLY IN 2025, DOWN 28.53%. SORRY ABOUT THAT. OKAY, SO THESE ARE REPORTS TAKEN BY TYPE. UH, THESE ARE SPECIFIC CATEGORIES. THESE ARE NOT ALL THE REPORTS THAT DUBLIN POLICE SERVICES TOOK. THESE ARE THE CATEGORIES OF REPORTS THAT THE CITY PUBLISHES ANNUALLY IN THE ANNUAL REPORT. UH, BEFORE I GO OVER THESE NUMBERS, I DO WANNA MENTION THAT ALL THE NUMBERS THAT WERE GIVEN YOU ARE NOT ALWAYS NECESSARY SINGULAR EVENTS. FOR EXAMPLE, AGGRAVATED ASSAULT FOR 2025, IT SHOWS 70 INCIDENTS. UM, SO IF, FOR AN EXAMPLE, SO IF WE GO TO A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CALL, WE HAD TWENTY, A HUNDRED TWENTY NINE OF THOSE, UH, AND THE VICTIM IS INJURED AND, AND SUSTAINED AN INJURY, THAT INCIDENT IS GONNA COUNT AS A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND AN AGGRAVATED ASSAULT, IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE. SO IT MAY NOT JUST BE 70 INCIDENTS OF AGGRAVATED ASSAULT. AGGRAVATED ASSAULT ALSO INCLUDES ASSAULTS ON OFFICERS. UH, IF WE ARREST SOMEBODY FOR DDUI, AND THERE'S A CHILD IN THE CAR THAT'S AGGRAVATED ASSAULT, SO THOSE NUMBERS MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT MISLEADING, BUT JUST HOW THE, THE DATA IS INPUTTED AND REPORTED. SO, AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS, UM, DECLINE SLIGHTLY AND THEN RAISED TO 70 LAST YEAR, 12% INCREASE. ARSONS REMAIN RELATIVELY THE SAME, EIGHT TO SIX TO SEVEN, GOING DOWN TO BURGLARIES. UH, THE BURGLARY LINE REPRESENTS ALL THE BURGLARIES THAT OCCURRED IN THE CITY OF DUBLIN. THOSE ARE COMMERCIAL BURGLARIES. THOSE ARE RESIDENTIAL BURGLARIES, BURGLARIES FROM THE SCHOOL, YOU NAME IT, IT'S ALL OF THEM. SO THOSE INCREASE, UH, FROM 23 TO 24, 18 0.18%, AND THEN IT DECLINED TO AN OVERALL NUMBER OF 77 FOR 2025, OR A 34.19% DECREASE IN TOTAL BURGLARIES IN, IN THE CITY OF DUBLIN. NOW, WE DIFFERENTIATED OF THOSE NUMBERS, UH, RESIDENTIALS. SO RESIDENTIAL, UH, INCREASE BY ONE FROM 23 TO 24, UH, 2.63%, AND THEN INCREASED TO 43 FOR 2025, OR A 10.26% INCREASE. MOVING ON TO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE HAS STAYED RELATIVELY THE SAME. 1 22 TO 1 21 AND THEN INCREASED TO 1 29 IN 2025, 6% INCREASE. UH, HOMICIDES HAVE STAYED THE SAME FOR THE LAST, UH, THREE YEARS. I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT THE 2025 HOMICIDE IN DELVIN WAS A TRAGIC CASE OF A DRUG OVERDOSE BY ONE OF OUR, OUR CITIZENS. UM, AND DUE TO PROP 36, UH, LAWS, IF AN INDIVIDUAL SELLS ILLEGAL DRUGS THAT RESULT IN DEATH, THEY CAN BE CHARGED WITH HOMICIDE. UH, RAPES HAVE GONE FROM EIGHT TO NINE AND 2324, AND THEN INCREASED, UH, TO 12 IN 2025. MOVING ON TO ROBBERIES, UH, ROBBERIES WENT FROM 43 [03:00:01] TO 41 IN 2024, AND THEN WENT DOWN TO 40, UH, ESTIMATED IN 2025. WHAT I DO WANNA NOTE IS THE LINE BELOW THAT SAYS SDS. NOW, SDS IS A TYPE OF ROBBERY THAT'S, THAT'S RECOGNIZED BY CALIFORNIA LAW. AND, UH, ESTESS ROBBERIES GENERALLY ORIGINATE FROM A SIMPLE THEFT. SO IF A SUBJECT WALKS INTO A STORE AND THEY STEAL AN ITEM, IT'S A MISDEMEANOR THEFT RETURNS INTO A ROBBERY IS IF A STORE EMPLOYEE, OR IF A LOSS PREVENTION AGENT CONFRONTS THAT PERSON AND THEY'RE THREATENED OR THEY'RE ASSAULTED, THAT NOW BECOMES, UH, A ROBBERY. SO IF YOU TAKE ESTESS ROBBERIES THAT OCCUR FROM SIMPLE THEFT FROM OUR TOTAL ROBBERIES, 40 MINUS 21, THAT'S DOWN TO 19 ROBBERIES. SEX OFFENSE IS, UH, WENT FROM 21 TO 20 AND 2024, AND THEN INCREASED TO 26, 30% INCREASE IN 2025. SHOPLIFTING INCREASED SIGNIFICANTLY FROM 23 TO 24, AND THEN DROPPED SIGNIFICANTLY IN 2025. IT DROPPED 31% LAST YEAR. STOLEN VEHICLES, UH, WENT FROM 1 37 TO 1 59 AND THEN HAD A GOOD DECLINE IN 2025, DOWN 25.79%. THEFT FROM A MOTOR VEHICLE OR AUTO BURGLARIES, 1 79 DOWN TO ONE 30, AND THEN ANOTHER DECREASE DOWN TO 1 28 IN 2025. 'CAUSE ANOTHER, THE COUNCIL LIKES COMPARISONS. UH, THIS IS HOW WE MEASURE UP WITH OUR NEIGHBORS. SO, UH, GREEN MEANS IMPROVEMENT. RED MEANS IT GOT WORSE. YELLOW MEANS IT STAYED THE SAME. SO LOOKING AT, UH, AGGRAVATED ASSAULT, UH, WE ROSE SLOWLY, SLOWLY, LIVERMORE IMPROVED. AND THEN PLEASANTON AND SAN RAMON, UH, DID A LITTLE WORSE LAST YEAR. ARSONS, UM, WE WENT UP BY ONE. LIVERMORE IMPROVED. PLEASANTON AND SAN RAMON DID WORSE BURGLARIES, AS I MENTIONED. WE WENT FROM ONE 17 DOWN TO SEVEN. SEVEN. WE IMPROVED. LIVERMORE IMPROVED SIGNIFICANTLY. PLEASANTON IMPROVED. THEY WENT FROM 1 55 DOWN TO 1 42, A LOT HIGHER THAN US. AND THEN SAN RAMON, UH, ROSE A. LITTLE BIT. RESIDENTIAL BURGLARY, WE WENT FROM 39 TO 43, DIDN'T DO BETTER. UM, LIVERMORE GOT WORSE. PLEASANTON GOT WORSE, AND SO DID SAN RAMON. UH, HOMICIDE, UH, WE STAYED THE SAME. LIVERMORE REPORTED ZERO HOMICIDES THROUGH NOVEMBER, BUT THEY DID HAVE A ONE IN DECEMBER. SO THEY FINISHED THE YEAR WITH ONE. UH, PLEASANTON WENT FROM ONE TO TWO. AND SAN RAMON, I BELIEVE I NOT LOOKING AT MY SLIDES, I THINK THEY WENT FROM ZERO TO ONE TOTAL ROBBERIES. UH, WE WENT FROM 41 TO 40 IMPROVEMENT. LIVERMORE IMPROVED. UH, PLEASANTON IMPROVED SLIGHTLY, AND CEREMONY IMPROVED SEX OFFENSES. UH, DOUBLE WENT UP BY SIX. LIVERMORE IMPROVED PLEASANTON, UM, A LITTLE MORE THAN DOUBLED. AND SAN RAMON, UH, WENT UP BY FIVE STOLEN VEHICLES. WE HAD AN IMPROVEMENT THERE. LIVERMORE HAD AN, UH, A GOOD IMPROVEMENT. PLEASANTON HAD AN IMPROVEMENT, AND SO SAN RAMON SAW ALL FOUR CITIES DID WELL, UH, AND THEN AUTO BURGLARY. WE IMPROVED. LIVERMORE IMPROVED. PLEASANTON IMPROVED, AND SO DOES SAN SO IMPROVEMENTS IN THOSE TWO CATEGORIES. AGAIN, ARRESTS. THIS IS A TABLE OF OUR ARRESTS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE ANNUAL REPORT. NOT ALL THE ARRESTS. THESE ARE THE ONES THAT WE REPORT EVERY YEAR. SO, UH, OUR AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS IN 2025, WE HAD 55 ARRESTS UP FROM, UH, 35, UH, 82 ARRESTS FOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE UP FROM 84. UH, DUIS DECLINED 34% DOWN TO 84 FROM 1 28. FIREARMS POSSESSION WENT FROM 29 TO 33. NARCOTICS POSSESSION WENT FROM ONE 12 TO 1 44. UH, CASES OF SHOPLIFTING ARRESTS WENT FROM 5 44 DOWN TO 4 72. UH, OUR WARRANT ARRESTS ALSO DECLINED FROM 3 95 IN 2024 DOWN TO 2 81. AND FIREARMS DATA. SO FIREARMS POSSESSION ARRESTS, UH, THOSE WENT UP A LITTLE BIT. THOSE ARE BASICALLY INDIVIDUALS THAT WE CATCH IN. CAR STOPS WITH, WITH FIREARMS, [03:05:01] THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE. FIREARMS RECOVER IS A LITTLE BIT, IT DEPENDS ON HOW YOU INTERPRET THE DATA. SO YOU CAN SEE FIREARMS RECOVERED IN 2023, WENT FROM 180 5 DOWN TO TO 56. WELL, IN 2023, WE DID HAVE A CASE WHERE WE SEIZED 130 FIREARMS IN ONE, IN ONE CASE. THAT KIND OF SKEWED THE NUMBERS. AND THEN 2025 WE RECOVERED. 116. I CAN TELL YOU THERE'S ONE CASE WE RECOVERED 12. SO WE'RE RECOVERING MULTIPLE FIREARMS FROM, FROM SOME OF THESE CASES. SO THOSE NUMBERS ARE A LITTLE HARD TO INTERPRET. SO CARRYING ON SOME OF OUR, UH, PROACTIVE STRATEGIES, UM, WE, WE ARE HEAVILY INVOLVED IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH PROGRAM. WE CURRENTLY HAVE, UM, 85 BLOCK CAPTAINS, UH, AROUND, AROUND THE, UH, THE TOWN. UM, AND THAT, THAT PROGRAM HAS REDUCES CRIME OPPORTUNITIES AND BUILDS TRUST BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND POLICE. IT'S A RESIDENT BASED PROGRAM, BUT WE'VE HAD IT FOR A LONG TIME. IT'S DONE VERY WELL. OUR BUSINESS WATCH PROGRAM IS SOMETHING WE STARTED WITHIN THE LAST YEAR. IT'S A, A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN DPS AND LOCAL BUSINESSES TO IMPROVE SAFETY IN COMMERCIAL AREAS. UM, WE GIVE BUSINESSES GUIDANCE ON CRIME PREVENTION AND ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN. UH, THE BUSINESSES WILL AUTHORIZE US TO ENFORCE TRESPASSING LAWS AFTER HOURS, AND THEY SOMETIMES WILL VOLUNTEER THEIR, UH, SECURITY CAMERAS THAT WE CAN USE IN INVESTIGATIONS. UH, DARE HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME. IT'S OFFERED ALL SIXTH GRADERS IN THE CITY OF DUBLIN. IT'S TAUGHT BY TRAINED DPS OFFICERS. IT FOCUSES ON SUBSTANCE ABUSE PREVENTION, VIOLENCE REDUCTION, AND DECISION MAKING SKILLS, UH, SUPPORTS LONG-TERM CRIME PREVENTION AND YOUTH SAFETY. OUR PUBLIC SAFETY CAMERAS HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR, UM, ABOUT EIGHT YEARS RIGHT NOW TO SOLVE CRIMES. THEY, THEY HELP US LOCATE STOLEN VEHICLES, UH, UH, MISSING PERSONS AND SUSPECTS LEAK TO SERIOUS CRIMES. UH, THEY PROVIDE REAL TIME INFORMATION DURING EMERGENCIES, ALLOWING US TO RESPOND FASTER AND MORE SAFELY. IN 2025, WE HAVE BEEN TRANSITIONING OVER TO FLOCK TECHNOLOGY, REPLACING OLD INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S BEEN AROUND FOR EIGHT YEARS. UH, THOSE CAMERAS, THAT PROJECT SHOULD BE PRE DONE, DONE HERE PRETTY SOON. AND WHEN THAT'S DONE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A NETWORK OF 90, UH, CAMERAS, BOTH, UH, A LPR AND SITUATIONAL AWARENESS. OUR REAL TIME, UH, CRIME CENTER IS OUR HUB OVER AT THE PD. UH, WE HAVE A CRIME TECHNICIAN THAT MONITORS CAMERA, FEEDS, LICENSE PLATE DATA, CALLS FOR SERVICE, AND DOES CRIME ANALYTICS IN ONE LOCATION. UM, SHE'S ABLE TO PROVIDE OFFICERS WITH REAL TIME INTELLIGENCE ON THEIR WAY TO CALLS FOR FASTER RESPONSE TIMES, BETTER SITUATIONAL AWARENESS, IMPROVED OFFICER AND PUBLIC SAFETY. SO PEREGRINE TECHNOLOGY IS A NEW PLATFORM THAT WE'RE WORKING ON NOW. WE'RE BUILDING IT OUT TO, UH, TO, TO WHERE WE WANT IT. UH, PEREGRINE IS BASICALLY A PROGRAM THAT INTERFACES WITH OUR CURRENT SYSTEMS. IT INTERFACES WITH OUR REPORT WRITING SYSTEM, WITH OUR DISPATCH SYSTEM, AND WITH COUNTY NETWORKS, AND BASICALLY TAKES ALL THE INFORMATION AND PROVIDES IT INTO A FORMAT THAT MAKES SENSE. IT PROVIDES IT IN, IN, IN A WAY THAT WE CAN RUN THESE CRIME STATS VERY QUICKLY. UM, IT HELPS IDENTIFY CRIME PATTERNS AND REPEAT OFFENDERS. IT IMPROVES INVESTIGATIONS AND, AND, UH, DECISION MAKING, ESPECIALLY WITH THE DEPLOYMENT OF OUR RESOURCES. UH, IT REDUCES TIME SPENT ON, ON MANUAL REPORTING. SO TRADITIONALLY, OUR OFFICERS EVERY MONTH PROVIDE A STAT SHEET THAT THEY, THAT THEY FILL OUT MONTHLY. ONCE WE GET THIS PEREGRINE UH, PROGRAM UP AND RUNNING TO WHERE WE WANT IT, WE CAN RUN ALL THE OFFICERS STAT SHEETS, UH, TO GET THEIR NUMBERS AND NOT HAVE TO RELY UPON THEM THE SELF REPORTING. AND I THINK THAT'LL IMPROVE SOME OF OUR OFFICER INITIATED ACTIVITIES THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER. SO OTHER ONGOING PREVENTION MEASURES. UM, DPS CONDUCTS REGULAR RETAIL THEFT OPERATIONS WITH LOCAL BUSINESSES. WE HAVE GREAT RELATIONSHIPS WITH DICK'S SPORTING GOODS AND TARGET, AND WE WORK WITH THEM TO PREVENT RETAIL THEFT BY, BY, UH, DOING TARGETED ENFORCEMENT THERE. UH, WE DO ENFORCEMENT ON TOBACCO AND ALCOHOL RELATED, UH, UM, ESTABLISHMENTS USING OUR GRANT FUNDING. OUR CRIME PREVENTION UNIT SUPPORTS DETECTIVES, SERVES, WARRANTS AND ASSIST PATROL. AND, UH, WE'VE ALSO, UH, REASSIGNED MANY OF OUR SWING VEHICLES TO KIND OF UPS STAFF SOME OF OUR PATROL BEATS THAT ARE EXPERIENCING, UH, INCREASES IN CRIME RIGHT NOW. THOSE ARE SOME OF THE PROACTIVE MEASURES THAT WE'RE TAKING. UH, I THINK THAT'S IT. THERE WE GO. [03:10:02] THAT I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE YOUR, UH, QUESTIONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. IT'S A LOT OF EFFORT. IT'S VERY COMPREHENSIVE REPORT. THANKS. UH, SO WE START WITH QUESTIONS. I YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD COUNCIL MEMBER? SURE. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION CHIEF. UM, GOT, UH, A COUPLE QUESTIONS. UM, SO THE FIRST IS KIND OF GOING THROUGH, UH, GOING THROUGH THE, THE, THE NUMBERS. THE THING THAT STUCK OUT IS RESIDENTIAL BURGLARIES ARE UP, SHOP SHOPLIFTING IS DOWN. DUI IS DOWN. UM, WHAT COULD WE BE DOING MORE OF ON THE RESIDENTIAL BURGLARY SIDE? UH, I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THE NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH PROGRAM, BUT BEYOND THAT, WHAT, WHAT COULD BE, WHAT COULD WE BE DOING MORE OF TO, TO KIND OF GET NUMBERS LIKE THE SHOPLIFTING AND THE DUI, YOU KNOW, GET GOING IN THE, IN THE NEGATIVE TREND? SO THE, THE RESIDENTIAL BURGLARIES, UM, IT, IT, IT, IT'S TRICKY 'CAUSE IT, IT, IT FLUCTUATES BETWEEN THE WEST AND EAST SIDE OF TOWN. AND WHAT WE FOUND THAT WORKS IS SATURATING AREAS WITH HIGH VISIBILITY OF PATROLS TO DETER CRIMES. SO I THINK IF CRIMINALS SEE ENFORCEMENT ACTION TAKING PLACE, IF THEY SEE CARS PARKED IN THE AREA, IT'S GONNA DETER THEM FROM, FROM DOING SOMETHING IN THAT AREA. IT JUST INVOLVES REALLOCATING OUR RESOURCES AND LEVERAGING WHAT WE HAVE, UH, USING EVEN SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS IN THE CRIME PREVENTION UNIT TO UP STAFF CERTAIN BEATS TO GET MORE STAFFING UP THERE. UM, AND, BUT THAT, AND WORKING WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH PROGRAMS, I THINK WILL, WILL BE BENEFICIAL TO, TO LOWERING SOME OF THESE NUMBERS. UH, AND ANY, ANY THOUGHTS, UH, AROUND DRONE TECHNOLOGY AND, UH, TRYING, TRYING TO AID IN, IN SOME OF, SOME OF THE RECOVERY OR, OR PREVENTION? SO, DRONE TECHNOLOGY IS A TRICKY ONE. UM, WE, WE USE A LOT OF DRONE TECHNOLOGY WHEN THE SITUATION WARRANTS IT. UM, OUR POLICIES ARE VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT THE USE OF TECHNOLOGY. UM, WE CAN'T ARBITRARILY FLY A DRONE OVER NEIGHBORHOODS. UM, SOME PEOPLE WILL CONSIDER THAT INVASION AND PRIVACY. WE DO, HOWEVER, USE DRONES HEAVILY WHEN THERE IS A CALL. UM, AND, AND WE HAVE SEVERAL OPERATORS WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT THAT HAVE DRONES THAT CAN USE THAT TECHNOLOGY. BUT WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL WHEN WE DEPLOY THAT TECHNOLOGY 'CAUSE WE HAVE TO REPORT THAT EVERY YEAR, UM, TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. GOT IT. UH, AND THEN MY FINAL QUESTION IS, UM, KINDA GOING BACK TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY CAMERAS. UH, I KNOW THE INFORMATION THAT THE CRIME STATISTICS ARE REPORTED TO THE STATE AND MAKE THEM MAKE THEIR WAY UP TO THE, TO THE FBI MM-HMM . DATABASES. UM, COULD YOU TALK ABOUT HOW THE PUBLIC SAFETY CAMERAS ARE USED AND, AND WHERE THAT DATA MIGHT GO? THE PUBLIC SAFETY CAMERAS? RIGHT. SO THE PUBLIC SAFETY CAMERAS, YOU HAVE THE, UM, YOU HAVE THE A LPR, THE LICENSE PLATE READERS, AND THEN YOU HAVE, UM, THE SITUATIONAL AWARENESS CAMERAS. UM, I'LL, I'LL ADDRESS REAL QUICK HOW THEY MIGHT BE USED. SO WE, UM, WE HAVE A NETWORK OF CAMERAS AND WITHIN CALIFORNIA, CALIFORNIA AGENCIES ARE ALLOWED TO SHARE WITH ONE ANOTHER. UM, OUR POLICIES SAY THAT WE CAN'T SHARE WITHOUT A STATE. WE CAN'T SHARE WITH IMMIGRATION. WE CAN'T, UH, AID INVESTIGATIONS FOR PEOPLE SEEING, SEEKING GENDER AFFIRMING CARE OR REPRODUCTIVE CARE. SO WITHIN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, WE CAN ALL SHARE THE AGENCIES THAT HAVE CAMERAS, WE CAN SHARE THE DATA. SO I CAN SHARE A STORY THAT WE KIND OF EXPLAIN HOW THE STUFF BENEFITS US. UM, ABOUT A MONTH AGO, WE HAD A, A GRAND THEFT AT DICK'S SPORTING GOODS, WHERE FOUR INDIVIDUALS WENT IN THERE AND THEY STOLE $5,000 IN NIKE APPAREL. A WITNESS GOT A, A GOOD LICENSE PLATE ON THE CAR. UH, THAT PLATE WAS PUT IN TO OUR SYSTEM AS A SUSPECT VEHICLE. UM, 10 MINUTES LATER, THAT VEHICLE HIT IN THE CITY OF LIVERMORE GOING TOWARDS BRENTWOOD. SO WE WERE ABLE TO GET UNITS LOOKING AFTER THAT CAR. WE HAD A, UM, ALAMEDA COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE AIRPLANE AND THE AIR HEADING TOWARDS, UH, BRENTWOOD. THAT SUSPECT VEHICLE ENDED UP GOING TO ANTIOCH. AND WE WERE ABLE TO COORDINATE WITH ANTIOCH PD, WITH THE ALAMEDA COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, PLAYING WITH OUR UNITS TO, TO SUCCESSFULLY APPREHEND ALL FOUR OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND RETURN ALL THAT PROPERTY. SO THAT'S ONE EXAMPLE OF HOW THOSE CAMERAS CAN HELP. AS FAR AS THE DATA GOES, THE DATA BELONGS TO US FOR THE, UM, FOR THE LPRS. UM, THAT DATA IS RETAINED FOR 30 DAYS UNLESS IT'S USED FOR AN INVESTIGATIONS PURPOSE. UM, AND THE SAME THING WITH THE SITUATIONAL CAMERAS. THAT DATA IS RETAINED FOR 30 DAYS. IF WE PULL IT FOR INVESTIGATIONS, IT HAS TO BE FOR OUR REASON. GOT [03:15:01] IT. SO IF, IF I COULD SUMMARIZE, UM, THE INFORMATION IS USED SOLELY BY DUBLIN AND THEN ACROSS CALIFORNIA AGENCIES, BUT DOES NOT GO BEYOND THAT. CORRECT. OKAY. PERFECT. THANK YOU. YEAH, THANK YOU. UM, THANK YOU FOR, UH, THIS VERY DETAILED REPORT WITH A TON OF DATA. UM, YEAH, AS SOMEBODY MENTIONED EARLIER, COUNCIL IS DATA NERDS. UM, AND SO WE LOVE TO SEE OUR DATA. UM, AND YOU GAVE US A LOT OF IT. THIS REPORT HAD A LOT OF WHAT, BUT NOT A LOT OF WHY. UM, AND WITHOUT A NARRATIVE TO GO ALONG WITH DATA, SOMETIMES WE DRAW OUR OWN CONCLUSIONS. SO THERE'S A, A FEW QUESTIONS I WANNA ASK YOU. AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW THE WHY, THAT'S OKAY. OKAY. SOMETIMES WE DON'T KNOW, UM, THE, THERE'S A HUGE DROP IN OFFICER INITIATED CONTACT OR OFFICER INITIATED ACTIVITIES. SORRY, I CHOSE THE WRONG WORD THERE. UM, DO YOU HAVE A NARRATIVE AROUND WHY THAT IS? DID WE CHANGE A POLICY OR PEOPLE JUST BEHAVING THEMSELVES AND THE OFFICER AREN'T, OR THE EASY ANSWER IS WE'RE, WE'RE WE'RE DOING LESS ACTIVITIES, STOPPING LESS CARS. NO, I, I, UM, I, I'VE PONDERED THAT FOR THE LAST MONTH SINCE WE STARTED GETTING THESE PRELIMINARY NUMBERS. I DON'T HAVE AN EXACT ANSWER, BUT I DO HAVE SOME, SOME WHAT I BELIEVE ARE CONTRIBUTING FACTORS. IF YOU'D LIKE TO HEAR THEM, I'D LOVE TO HEAR THEM. OKAY. SO, UM, AS FAR AS LIKE, LET'S START WITH, UH, COMMUNITY INITIATED ACTIVITIES. SO THOSE, THOSE ARE DOWN A LITTLE BIT, AND I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS WHY IS, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK CRIME DOWN, I DON'T CRIME IS DOWN IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE CALIFORNIA DOGA REPORT FROM 2024 ABOUT STATE OF CRIME IN CALIFORNIA MM-HMM . IT'S DOWN. MM-HMM . UM, VIOLENT CRIME'S DOWN 6%, PROPERTY CRIME'S DOWN 8.4%, HOMICIDES DOWN 10%, AGGRAVATED ASSAULT, SIX AND A HALF. MOTOR VEHICLE THEFT, 15% BURGLARY, STATEWIDES DOWN 9.1% AND ROBBERIES DOWN 6.3%. SO THAT'S JUST STARTING THERE WITH STATEWIDE STATS. UM, CONTRIBUTING FACTORS, UM, THERE'S A FEW THAT I HAVE. UH, NUMBER ONE, UH, OUR OFFICERS AND OFFICERS STATEWIDE. UM, THERE IS A, A, A VERY HEAVILY INCREASING ADMINISTRATIVE BURDEN ON THEM IN THEIR DAY-TO-DAY ACTIVITIES. UM, THEY HAVE A LOT MORE REPORTING REQUIREMENTS IN THE REPORTS. THEY HAVE TO CONSTANTLY LOOK AT THEIR BODY-WORN CAMERA FOOTAGE AND ANNOTATE IT. UH, THEY HAVE TO SPEND PROBABLY ANOTHER THREE TO FOUR MINUTES AFTER EVERY CAR STOP PUTTING IN STOP DATA THAT'S REQUIRED BY THE STATE. UH, TALKING TO MY OFFICERS, BOOKING SOMEBODY AT THE SANTA RITA JAIL, A PROCESS THAT USED TO TAKE 15 MINUTES. NOW IT TAKES 45 MINUTES TO AN HOUR JUST WAITING FOR MEDICAL CLEARANCE. THAT'S, IF YOU THINK ABOUT THAT, THAT'S A LOT OF TIME SPENT OUT OUTSIDE OF THEIR CAR. UM, OUR OFFICERS ARE ALSO DOING A LOT OF THE EARLY STAGE INVESTIGATIVE WORK FOR, UM, THE AGENCIES. SO BEFORE A REPORT GOES TO INVESTIGATIONS, THEY'RE TRYING TO GET MOST OF THE INVESTIGATIONS LEG WORK DONE. SO THEY'RE REVIEWING FOOTAGE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE SEEKING OUT CAMERAS, LOOKING FOR WITNESSES, SO THEY'RE SPENDING MORE FOLLOW-UP TIME ON THOSE CALLS. UM, ANOTHER CONTRIBUTING FACTOR IS THAT, UH, PROACTIVE WORK OR SELF-INITIATED WORK IS DONE. UH, WHEN WE DON'T HAVE PENDING CALLS, OUR PRIORITY IS TO GET TO THE COMMUNITY AND ANSWER CALLS TO THE COMMUNITY. AND I CAN TELL YOU WORKING DAY SHIFT, UM, A LOT OF OUR CALLS ARE PRIORITY TWO CALLS. UH, WE'RE GOING TO, TO TO A, A SUSPECT IN CUSTODY AT TARGET. WE SEND TWO VEHICLES TO THAT. SO A LOT OF THE CALLS WE'RE SENDING MULTIPLE OFFICERS, SO THERE'S LESS TIME FOR THAT BEAT TO GO DO PROACTIVE WORK. UM, AND OFFICER SAFETY IS ANOTHER REASON WHY WE SEND TWO CARS. UM, THAT'S, THAT'S ANOTHER CONTRIBUTING FACTOR. AND, AND ANOTHER CONTRIBUTING FACTOR IS I, I BELIEVE, 'CAUSE I'M NOT DOUBTING PRODUCTIVITY AMONG MY OFFICERS, I THINK THEY'RE UNDER REPORTING STUFF. I REALLY DO. UH, WHEN THEY GO IN TO GET A SANDWICH, WHEN THEY GO IN TO USE THE RESTROOM, THAT'S A BUSINESS CHECK. WE'VE ALWAYS, WE'VE ALWAYS, UH, LOGGED THOSE. IF YOU'RE IN SEVEN 11 OR A CONVENIENCE STORE OR WHAT, NAME A STORE, WE LOGGED IT AS A BUSINESS CHECK. IF I'M DRIVING THROUGH A, A NEIGHBORHOOD ON THE EAST END OR THE WEST END, THAT'S A PATROL CHECK JUST DRIVING DOWN THE STREET AND NOT, NOT, UH, ACCOUNTING FOR YOUR WORK. WE'RE, UM, WE'RE UNDERREPORTING THIS STUFF. UH, DOING ROUTINE, ROUTINE PATROL THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS AND COMMERCIAL AREAS, UH, DOING HIGH VISIBILITY IN HOTSPOTS, PARKING YOUR CAR IN HIGH CRIME AREAS, UH, PREVENTING A CRIME THAT DIDN'T OCCUR. THAT'S HARD TO MEASURE, BUT THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ARE BEING DONE. UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT THIS IS AN ISSUE, BUT YOU KNOW, NATIONWIDE, UH, I THINK THERE'S A DECLINE IN, IN, IN PRODUCTIVITY AMONGST ALL OFFICERS NATIONWIDE. I THINK AFTER, UH, 2020, I THINK OFFICERS JUST BECAME RISK AVERSE. [03:20:01] SO THAT'S, THAT'S BEEN A PROBLEM. UM, I, I THINK WE'VE TURNED THAT CORNER. I DO HAVE A LOT OF IDEAS AND THE CAPTAIN DOES AS WELL, UH, TO IMPROVE THESE STATS. I I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THESE STATS WILL BE A LOT HIGHER NEXT YEAR FOR OFFICER INITIATED ACTIVITIES, BUT I, THERE'S MANY CONTRIBUTING FACTORS. I CAN'T POINT TO THIS ONE THING. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT VERY DETAILED ANSWER. I WASN'T NECESSARILY HIGHLIGHTING IT AS AN ISSUE. I WAS JUST CURIOUS AS TO WHY THE, THE, THE BIG DROP. AND, UM, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT NONE OF MY QUESTIONS SOUND LIKE CRITICISMS IN ANY WAY. UM, I'M REALLY NO, THEY'RE, THEY'RE LOW VICE MAYOR. I, I, I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THOSE NUMBERS IMPROVE. OH, OKAY. I, I'M GENUINELY JUST ASKING QUESTIONS, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU SAID WAS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, CRIME IS DOWN THROUGHOUT THE STATE. WE'RE SEEING THAT WE'RE SEEING IT, UM, NATIONWIDE, ACTUALLY. UM, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU KNOW, I SAID ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY POLICY COMMITTEES, AND WE LOOK AT A LOT OF THESE THINGS, UM, AND ALSO THE NEWSPAPERS ARE REPORTING CRIME DESPITE WHAT, ANECDOTALLY, YOU MIGHT SEE THE STATISTICS SAY CRIME IS DOWN NATIONWIDE. MM-HMM . IS THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE OLD ADAGE OF IF YOU DON'T TEST FOR THINGS, YOU DON'T FIND THEM, IS CRIME DOWN BECAUSE WE'RE NOT REPORTING THE CRIME? OR IS CRIME TRULY DOWN BY THAT PERCENTAGE? I MEAN, CLEARLY CRIME IS DOWN, BUT IS IS, ARE THOSE PERCENTAGES, DO YOU THINK, ACCURATE IN YOUR OPINION? I KNOW YOU CAN'T SPEAK TO THE STATISTICS. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT FOR DUBLIN OR FOR THE STATE? I MEAN, I'M, I'M JUST IN GENERAL TRENDS, IT, IT'S HARD TO SAY MM-HMM . IT, IT REALLY IS HARD TO SAY. I, I LIKE TO THINK THAT THE CRIME NUMBERS ARE JUST DOWN MM-HMM . RIGHT NOW, AND THAT, THAT WE'RE DOING A BETTER JOB OF POLICING OUR COMMUNITIES AND, AND THERE'S JUST LESS, LESS CRIME OCCURRING. MM-HMM . BUT IT'S HARD TO SAY. I DON'T KNOW A HUNDRED PERCENT WHY. OKAY. BUT I THINK IF OUR NUMBERS ARE SHOWING A DOWNWARD TREND, I THINK THE STATE'S SHOWING A DOWNWARD TREND. I THINK THERE'S A, THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON. YEAH. FANTASTIC. UM, THE, I ACTUALLY, I'M GONNA DO THIS A LITTLE BIT OUT OF THE ORDER I HAVE, BECAUSE THIS ONE PERTAINS TO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT THE, THE DUI, UM, DECLINE THAT, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER CADRE BROUGHT UP, UM, JUST TO FULLY PUT A PERIOD ON THAT THEME. IS THAT BECAUSE WE DID FEWER STOPS? UM, OR DO WE REALLY THINK PEOPLE ARE, YOU KNOW, CHECKING THEMSELVES BEFORE THEY GET BEHIND THE WHEEL? I THINK THERE'S, I THINK IT'S BOTH. UM, SO WE'VE, WE, WE HAVEN'T REDUCED THE NUMBER OF CHECKPOINTS THAT WE'VE DONE. UH, WE'VE, WE'VE DONE OUR CHECKPOINTS, BUT I WILL SAY THAT OUR CHECKPOINTS THAT WE DO, WE DON'T NET A WHOLE LOT OF ARRESTS. OKAY. GOOD. UH, WE HAD CHECKPOINTS LAST YEAR. WE HAD ZERO, WE HAD CHECKPOINTS WHERE WE HAD ONE, WE HAD A CHECKPOINT IN DECEMBER, WE ARRESTED FOUR PEOPLE. OKAY. SO THOSE ARE HIT AND MISS. UM, WE'VE USED OUR, OUR CANNABIS GRANT AND OUR OTS FUNDING TO PUT SATURATION PATROLS OUT FOR DUIS. AND, AND SOME NIGHTS THEY'RE LUCKY AND SOME NIGHTS THEY DON'T GET ANYTHING. MM-HMM . UM, I, I, I WILL SAY THIS AND I'LL BRING THIS UP. WE DID, WE DID LOOK AT SOME STATISTICS AND ACTUALLY, UM, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU KNEW THIS, BUT DUIS, ACCORDING TO THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION, OR DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY FROM 2005, IN 2005, THEY REPORTED 1.4 MILLION ARRESTS NATIONWIDE. AND IN 2024, THAT NUMBER DROPPED DOWN TO 805,000, UH, STATE OF CALIFORNIA. AND, UH, 2005, THERE WAS A 180,000 DUI ARRESTS, THAT NUMBER DROPPED DOWN TO A TO 120,000. IN 2024. UM, THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION, THEY, THEY, THEY ATTRIBUTE THE, UH, THE DECLINE TO, UM, OBVIOUSLY LESS CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL, BUT ALSO THE INCREASED USE OF RIDE SHARES AND OPTIONS. I MEAN, THESE DAYS, DUI IS A, IS A, IS TRULY A CHOICE. IF YOU DON'T TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THESE THINGS AND YOU GET CAUGHT, THAT'S SHAME ON YOU. RIGHT. UM, AND, AND, AND ONE MORE THING I'LL ADD. I'M, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU GUYS HAVE HEARD, BUT IF YOU LOOK ONLINE, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S NUMEROUS ARTICLES ABOUT GENZER. YEAH. THEY JUST DON DRINK, UH, 1997 TO 20 20 12, UH, INCLUDING AN ARTICLE IN NEW YORK POST THAT WAS, I READ TODAY ACTUALLY, THAT, UM, GENZER ARE JUST NOT INTERESTED IN DRINKING. THEY, THEY'RE LOSING INTEREST IN DRINKING AFTER THEY TRY IT FOR THE FIRST TIME. SO, SO THAT DEMOGRAPHIC, THAT'S GONNA BE THE YOUNG ONES THAT ARE POTENTIALLY GOING TO BARS, THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT OUT THERE. UM, SO YEAH, I THINK DUI IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT I, I'M NOT SAYING THAT THEY'RE NOT OUT THERE. RIGHT. UM, JUST I DON'T, WE'RE NOT FINDING THEM. UH, DUI COMPASSES OTHER THINGS BEHIND BESIDES ALCOHOL, CORRECT. OH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. DUI IT COULD BE, UH, UH, DRUGS, UH, PRESCRIPTION DRUGS, UM, OTHER ILLICIT DRUGS. YEAH. GEN Z'S NOT DRINKING, BUT I'LL JUST, I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT. OKAY. UM, MOVING ON. UM, THE, UH, PRIORITY ONE CALLS, UM, THAT SEEMS LIKE JUST FROM A RAW NUMBER, A SURPRISING NUMBER TO ME. MAYBE I'M THE ONLY ONE THAT WENT 2,400 PRIORITY ONE CALLS. WHAT THE HECK? UM, THAT'S SEVEN A DAY. UM, BUT MEDICAL CALLS ARE PART OF THAT. YEAH. IS, [03:25:01] IS, ARE THE MEDICAL CALLS A BIG PERCENTAGE OF OUR PRIORITY ONE CALLS HERE IN DUBLIN? I WOULD SAY THEY ARE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE EXACT PERCENTAGE IS, BUT WE DO RESPOND TO A, A NUMBER OF MEDICAL CALLS. OKAY. YEAH. THANK YOU. UM, AND THE SAME IS TRUE FOR PRIORITY TWO CALLS AND, UM, TRAFFIC COLLISIONS, CORRECT? YEAH. SO JUST, JUST FOR, UM, FOR REFERENCE, SO REMEMBER I SAID PRIORITY TWO DETAILS INCLUDE TRAFFIC STOPS. SO OF THOSE PRIORITY TWO CALLS, WE, WE DID 5,951 TRAFFIC STOPS LAST YEAR. OKAY. AND ALSO TRAFFIC COLLISIONS ARE PRIORITY TWO. CORRECT. OKAY. WELL, IT DEPENDS ON IF THERE'S INJURY OR NOT. OKAY. SO IF THERE'S INJURY, IT'S PRIORITY ONE. ONE. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, CAN YOU GIVE ME JUST A, YOU KNOW, I, WE DON'T, IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, YOU KNOW, A BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PRIORITY THREE, FOUR, AND FIVE. SURE. SO PRIORITY THREE, AS I MENTIONED IN THE, IN THE REPORT, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE OUR REPORTS. UHHUH, , UH, MOST OF 'EM ARE FOR REPORTS. I ACTUALLY HAVE THE LIST FROM DISPATCH. IT'S RIGHT HERE. I HAVE THREE, FOUR, AND FIVE. SO THOSE ARE OUR REPORTS. THERE'S A COUPLE INSTANCES AND PRIORITY THREES WHERE IT'S NOT A REPORT, UM, FOR INSTANCE, A SECURITY CHECK, A VACATION CHECK IF SOMEBODY'S OUTTA TOWN. AND THEN, UH, A PARKING VIOLATION IS A, IS A PRIORITY THREE. UM, PRIORITY FOURS APPEAR TO BE ADMINISTRATIVE ACT, OR THEY'RE ADMINISTRATIVE, OR THEY'RE ACTIVITIES THAT DON'T REQUIRE A REPORT. UH, GETTING GAS, AH, CIVIL STANDBYS, UM, BUSINESS CHECKS, PATROL CHECKS, STRANDED MOTORISTS, UH, REPORTING THAT A TRAFFIC LIGHT IS OUT. THAT'S A PRIORITY FOUR. UM, PRIORITY FIVES, UH, WE HAVE SEVEN ON MY LIST. FOUR APPLY TO WHAT WE DO HERE IN DUBLIN. AND THEY INCLUDE A, AN ABANDONED BOAT, , AN ABANDONED BICYCLE, UH, FIREWORKS AND USE OF FORCE. THAT'S IT. OKAY. BUT FOR THE MOST PART, PRIORITY THREE IS THE, THE LION'S SHARE OF OUR, OUR REPORTS. OKAY. UM, THANK YOU. MM-HMM . IN THE RESPONSE TIME. UM, AND MAYBE IT'S JUST A, A FALSE MEMORY ON MY PART, BUT IT'S SEEMS TO ME THAT OUR RESPONSE TIMES WHEN I STARTED THIS JOB USED TO BE SUB FIVE MINUTES. UM, DID WE USED TO REPORT THE OFFICER INITIATED ACTIVITIES AS PART OF OUR RESPONSE TIMES AND NOW WE DON'T? OR ARE OUR RESPONSE TIMES GETTING WORSE? WE DID. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO WE, SO WE NOTICED THAT WE ARE REPORTING, UH, OFFICER INITIATED ACTIVITY IN OUR RESPONSE TIMES, WHICH REMEMBER WHAT I TOLD YOU IN THE PRESENTATION. RIGHT? IT'S ZERO. RIGHT. SO IF I SEE A CAR VI A VEHICLE VIOLATION, I'M STOPPING THE CAR. IT'S, IT'S NOT, IT'S, IT'S INSTANTANEOUS, ALMOST, ALMOST MM-HMM . SO THE, THE TIME SEEMS A LITTLE BIT HIGH MM-HMM . BUT WE DIDN'T THINK IT WAS FAIR TO REPORT SELF-INITIATE ACTIVITY INTO OUR OVERALL RESPONSE TIME. IT'S NOT ACCURATE. UM, IF WE INCLUDE THOSE OFFICER INITIATED ACTIVITIES THAT SEVEN MINUTES AND WHATEVER IT WAS, I CAN CUT THAT NUMBER IN HALF. OKAY. IF NOT MORE. OKAY. THANK YOU. BECAUSE I, I'M COMPARING APPLES TO APPLES, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN I'M COMPARING APPLES TO ORANGES AND IT FREAKED ME OUT A LITTLE BIT. SO I ACTUALLY PREFER THAT WE ARE USING TRANSPARENT DATA. SO I, I APPLAUD YOU FOR PUTTING THE REAL NUMBER IN THERE. EVEN THOUGH IT, IF PEOPLE LOOK AT, AT AS A COMPARATOR AND OTHER AGENCIES ARE USING THEIR OFFICE OR INITIATED ACTIVITIES AS PART OF THEIR AVERAGE, UM, IT'S GONNA MAKE US LOOK LIKE WE HAVE SLOWER RESPONSE TIME. BUT THAT IS A TRUE, ACCURATE PICTURE. UM, DO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF WHERE THAT PUTS US IN NEIGHBOR COMPARED TO NEIGHBORING AGENCIES? AND DO YOU KNOW WHETHER THEY USE WHAT METRICS THEY'RE USING? I, I CAN FIND OUT, UM, WHAT THEIR, WHAT THEIR TIMES ARE. I, I, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE IS A, UM, A NATIONAL BENCHMARK FOR RESPONSE TIMES. I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN ALWAYS WORK ON IMPROVING. I WILL SAY THIS, IF THERE IS A TRUE EMERGENCY, OUR RESPONSE TIME IS GONNA BE SIGNIFICANTLY LESS. AND THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE WE HAVE LIGHTS AND SIRENS AND WE CAN, WE CAN, UH, GET AWAY WITH, UH, NOT FOLLOWING THE TRAFFIC LAWS LEGALLY. UM, SO OUR RESPONSE TIMES TO AN INJURY COLLISION OR TO A TRUE CRIME IN PROGRESS, I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER, BUT I CAN GUARANTEE YOU IT'S 50% OF WHAT YOU'RE SEEING. OKAY. UM, NOW GOING BACK TO THAT, NOT ALL PRIORITY ONE CALLS WARRANT AN EMERGENCY RESPONSE. 'CAUSE THE VEHICLE CODE, UH, IS VERY SPECIFIC AS TO WHEN FIRE OR POLICE CAN, CAN HAVE THEIR LIGHTS AND SIRENS ON. WE HAVE TO BE, BE RESPONDING TO A FIRE. WE HAVE TO BE RESPONDING TO AN EMERGENCY ENGAGED IN A RE RESCUE OPERATIONS, OR BE IN PURSUIT OF A LAW VIOLATOR. THOSE ARE THE FOUR REASONS. THERE'S MANY INSTANCES ON PRIORITY ONE CALLS THAT ARE PRIORITY ONE, BUT WE CAN'T ESTABLISH THAT THERE'S AN EMERGENCY. UH, UM, THE NUMBER ONE EXAMPLE I CAN GIVE YOU IS THE 9 1 1 HANGUP. UH, WE'VE ALL INADVERTENTLY [03:30:01] DIALED NINE ONE ONE ON OUR CELL PHONE. WE RESPOND TO THOSE. BUT IF IT'S A STATIC LINE, UH, IF, IF WE CAN'T DETERMINE IF THERE'S AN EMERGENCY, WE'RE STILL GONNA GO. BUT WE HAVE TO OBEY THE RULES OF THE ROAD. SO THAT'S GONNA SLOW OUR, OUR TIMES DOWN. WE HAVE TO STOP AT STOPLIGHTS AND FOLLOW THE RULES OF TRAFFIC. SO THOSE MESS WITH OUR RESPONSE TIME AS WELL. BUT WHAT I CAN SAY IS THAT IF THERE IS A TRUE EMERGENCY, WE'RE GONNA GET THERE VERY FAST. OKAY. PERFECT. AND THEN, UM, THE LAST QUESTION, I'M SURE EVERYBODY'S PLEASED WITH ME SAYING THAT. SURE. THE LAST QUESTION I HAVE IS THE, UM, THE, UH, FLOCK AND PEREGRINE, UM, INFORMATION AND THE, UM, INFORMATION ABOUT RTCC. ALL THOSE TOGETHER FOR ME. UM, I HAVE A WHOLE HOST OF QUESTIONS ABOUT DATA AND AI AND INTEGRATION AND, AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS. WE'VE ASKED FOR THAT TO COME BACK TO US. CAN YOU, DO YOU KNOW WHEN THAT'S COMING BACK? THAT'S COMING BACK FEBRUARY 17TH. OKAY. 24TH, NO, FEBRUARY, MARCH. MARCH IS, YEAH. PERFECT. THANK YOU. LITTLE LITTLE MISUNDERSTANDING OVER THERE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE REPORT. THAT CONCLUDES MY VERY LONG-WINDED QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. BUT GOOD QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. ANY MORE QUESTIONS? GOOD. I DO MAYOR. YEAH. WE'LL LET HIM GO. WE'LL LET HIM, SO GO, GO AHEAD. UM, COUNCIL MEMBER MARADA. THANKS. UH, I HAVE, UH, ONE QUESTION, NINE PARTS FOR CHIEF. JUST KIDDING. UH, ACTUALLY, JUST, JUST ONE QUESTION. UH, SO ON, UH, CHIEF, ON SLIDE EIGHT, UH, I WAS SOMEWHAT TAKEN ABACK BY SOME OF THE NUMBERS. UH, SO, SO A QUESTION THAT I'LL ASK AND, AND PLEASE RESPOND WITH THE NECESSARY LEVEL OF DISCRETION, UH, WHICH IS IN SOME OF THE CATEGORIES, UH, NOTABLY AGGREGATED AGGRAVATED ASSAULT, UH, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, SEX OFFENSE. UH, IS THERE A SPECIFIC AT-RISK POPULATION THAT, UH, YOU NOTICED OR CAUGHT A TREND AROUND? AND IF SO, HOW ARE WE HELPING THEM? UH, DO WE, YOU KNOW, APPLY FOR GRANTS? DO WE HAVE PROGRAMS? JUST GIMME A SENSE OF THE, THE PROACTIVE THINGS YOU'RE DOING TO SERVICE THE AT-RISK POPULATION. THANKS. THAT'S IT. SO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, MARTI, YOU MENTIONED AGGRAVATED ASSAULT AS AN EXAMPLE, OR IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT YOU WANTED THE ANSWER TO? WELL, CAN YOU ADDRESS FOR ME ALL OF THE LINE ITEMS ON SLIDE EIGHT THAT HAVE A POSITIVE NET CHANGE IN 2025? SEE IF I CAN GET TO IT. YEAH, THIS IS THE ONE RIGHT HERE. PERFECT. YES. IS THERE, I, I'M, I'M ASKING FOR MORE OF A SUMMARY CHIEF, WHICH IS, OF ALL THE NET POSITIVE LINE ITEMS, IS THERE AN AT-RISK POPULATION THAT YOU FOUND THROUGH YOUR RESEARCH, THROUGH YOUR ANALYSIS, THAT WE SHOULD, COULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT? AND IF SO, HOW ARE WE SERVING THEM? UM, NOT THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED COUNCIL MEMBER MARADA. OKAY. THANKS. UH, NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. BACK TO YOU, MAYOR. THANK, THANK YOU. UH, YEAH, YEAH, GO AHEAD. YEAH. UM, SO I'M GLAD I'M LAST BECAUSE ABOUT 90% OF MY QUESTIONS HAVE ALREADY BEEN ASKED. RIGHT. I, I, AND YOU'VE RESPONDED VERY WELL, THE RESPONSE TIME AND THE, THE TREND AND THE STATISTICS. I GUESS WHAT I, I'D LIKE TO KNOW IS, UM, AND INCIDENTALLY, UM, THERE WAS, THERE WAS THE USE OF DATA, AND MAYBE YOU CAN EXPLAIN HOW YOU'VE, YOU'VE MODIFIED OR FILTERED OUT ON FLOCK, UM, UH, OVER THE LAST YEAR OR SO. OF MY UNDERSTANDING IS AT ONE TIME THAT WE, WE WERE KIND OF OPEN AND THAT WE'VE MADE SOME CHANGES RECENTLY. UH, WITH REGARD TO THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST QUESTION. MAYBE YOU CAN IDENTIFY, MAYBE ELABORATE ON THAT, AND THEN I'LL GET BACK TO THE STATS A LITTLE BIT. IS THAT SOMETHING YOU WANT TO ADDRESS TONIGHT? OR, UH, IS THIS, IS THIS FOR THE 20? I THINK THAT'S MORE IN LINE FOR OUR NEXT PRESENTATION AND WE'LL ON ON, PUSH IT OUT. PUSH IT OUT. THAT'S FINE. UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE, I HAD VERY SIMILAR QUESTIONS, LIKE THE TRENDS. YOU KNOW, THESE, THESE STATISTICS, THEY'RE GOING UP AND THEY'RE GOING DOWN AND THEY'RE GOING UP AND DOWN. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, ARE THESE WITHIN RANGE? UH, ARE YOU, ARE YOU SATISFIED WITH, WITH THESE, UM, NUMBERS? UM, AND AS COUNCIL MEMBER MARADA SAID, THERE'S SOME THAT ARE GOING UP AND, UH, YOU KNOW, ASSAULT, ASSAULT, SEXUAL VIOLENCE, ET CETERA. UM, YOU KNOW, DO WE KNOW THE REASONS FOR THOSE TRENDS? UH, UM, FOR ALL OF 'EM, NOT NECESSARILY. I THINK YOU CAN ATTRIBUTE, UM, SOME OF THE, THE SHOPLIFTING AND THE, THE, THE BURGLARY, [03:35:01] ESPECIALLY COMMERCIAL BURGLARY TO, TO MAYBE SOME CHANGES IN THE LAWS DUE TO PROP 36. AH, UM, IT'S CHANGED THE LAWS. IT'S MADE A LOT OF CASES A FELONY WHERE THEY WOULD NORMALLY HAVE BEEN CHARGED WITH A MISDEMEANOR OR NOT CHARGED AT ALL. UM, I THINK THAT'S A CONTRIBUTING FACTOR. 'CAUSE YOU SEE BURLAR WENT DOWN 34%. YEAH. UM, I AM, I'M SATISFIED WITH SOME, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY SOME, I, I DON'T LIKE SEEING SEX OFFENSES. I DON'T LIKE SEEING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE OR ANY VIOLENCE WHATSOEVER. I THINK WE CAN ALWAYS IMPROVE ON ALL THOSE. UM, BUT SOME OF THE PROPERTY CRIMES, I'M, I'M VERY SATISFIED WITH. I, I DO WANNA WORK ON OUR, OUR RESIDENTIAL BURGLARIES AND OUR, AND OUR, AND OUR BURGLARIES IN GENERAL. THOSE ARE IMPORTANT TO ME. THEY'RE ALL IMPORTANT. ACTUALLY, THAT ACTUALLY WAS MY NEXT QUESTION IS WHERE, WHERE IS YOUR FOCAL POINT? AND IS THERE ANYTHING THAT, THAT WE CAN DO TO SUPPORT? WHAT AREAS WOULD BE MORE SUPPORTIVE TO YOU, WHETHER IT'S, UH, TECHNOLOGY OR, OR ANYTHING ELSE? UH, YOU KNOW, WHERE DO YOU SEE THAT, THAT NEED? UH, FROM A STRATEGIC STANDPOINT? I THINK FROM A STRATEGIC STANDPOINT, THE CITY HAS ALWAYS BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE PD. AND SO IS THE CITY, UH, THE CITY MANAGER AND, AND GETTING US THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE NEED. WE HAVE A LOT OF TECHNOLOGY THAT A LOT OF CITIES DON'T HAVE, AND IT'S VERY BENEFICIAL FOR US WHEN IT COMES TO SOLVING CRIMES OR INVESTIGATING CRIMES. UM, SO I THINK WE HAVE WHAT WE NEED RIGHT NOW. UM, BUT OUR FOCAL POINT RIGHT NOW, AND, AND MY PRIORITY RIGHT NOW IS LOWERING RESIDENTIAL BURGLARIES. UH, THAT'S A, THAT'S A, A BIG, BIG PROBLEM IN MY EYES. AND, UH, I WANT THAT NUMBER TO COME DOWN SUBSTANTIALLY. OKAY. WELL, I THINK, UH, THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, HAVE VERY WELL ANSWERED OR ASKED THE, THE RIGHT QUESTIONS, AND I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. YEAH. ANY QUESTIONS? YOU'RE GOOD. OKAY. AWESOME. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, I HAVE, UH, JUST A, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS HERE. SO I, I, I'M LOOKING AT THE COMPARISON TO OTHER CITIES, AND THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THAT TOGETHER. MM-HMM . AND MOST OF THE NUMBERS ARE, I, I FEEL ARE FINE, UH, EXCEPT LIKE ONE NUMBER WE ASK SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN OTHER CITIES THAT IS A ROBBERY. THAT'S LIKE ON SECOND PAGE OF THAT, UH, COMPARED SO, SO MAYOR, I'M NOT SURE HOW THE OTHER CITIES ARE REPORTING ROBBERIES. UM, LIKE I TOLD YOU WHEN I WAS EXPLAINING THE STATISTICS, WE HAD 40 ROBBERIES, UM, BUT 21 OF THOSE ROBBERIES INVOLVED RETAIL THEFT WHERE, UM, A LOSS PREVENTION PERSON WAS MAYBE THREATENED OR PUSHED, WHICH ELEVATES IT TO A ROBBERY. I DON'T THINK IT'S THE, THE IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S A FELONY, UH, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S THE, THE ROBBERY THAT, THAT MOST PEOPLE WILL THINK OF, UM, THAT OCCURS ON THE STREET. THESE, THESE ORIGINATE GENERALLY IN RETAIL STORES. MM. UM, STARTING WITH, UH, BASICALLY SIMPLE THEFT. OKAY. YEAH. YEAH. THAT I UNDERSTAND BOTH. THANK YOU. SO, UH, A COUPLE THINGS. SO I JUST, UH, UH, I, I, YOU KNOW, WE HEARD THIS RESIDENTIAL, UM, COMMUNITY, UM, BURGLARY HAPPENING. AND, UM, I WANT TO TO KNOW LIKE HOW MANY COMMUNITIES IN OUR, IN OUR CITY, DO THEY ALREADY HAVE FLOCK CAMERAS, AND LIKE, HOW CAN WE, LIKE, HOW MUCH THEY CAN HELP WITH THIS, UH, UM, CRIME, UM, SITUATION AND HOW WE CAN HELP OUT TO GET THE MESSAGE OUT OR JUST, UH, HELP TO GET THE FOOTPRINT CONNECTED TO OUR POLICE? UM, INFORMATION? WELL, THE CAMERAS ARE VERY HELPFUL. UM, AND AS FAR AS COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE THEM, UM, I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE 'EM IN SHAFER RANCH NOW. THEY HAVE 'EM, UM, IN THE PINNACLES DEVELOPMENT UP OFF OF, UH, FALLON. UH, THERE'S SEVERAL COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE THEM. UM, BUT THE, THE CAMERAS ARE NOT, THEY'RE NOT CHEAP. SO I, I WOULDN'T EXPECT EVERY COMMUNITY IN, IN TOWN TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD THAT. UM, BUT THE COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE, UM, PURCHASED ONE, THAT, THAT INFORMATION IS HELPFUL FOR US. UM, AND MAY SERVE AS DETERRENT TOO FOR, FOR RESIDENTIAL BURGLARIES. OKAY. THANKS. ANOTHER THING IS WE, WE GOT, UM, LIKE MANY PEOPLE THROUGH THE PAST TWO, NOW, THEY'LL ALWAYS ASK, DO WE HAVE ENOUGH SWAN OFFICERS, UH, LIKE A NATIONAL DATA USE, LIKE 1% OR ONE OUT OF, UM, I, I DON'T KNOW THE STATISTIC I, SO IF STRICTLY USE THAT NUMBER, WE ARE LIKE A FEWER NUMBER THAN THAT NUMBER INDICATED OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I JUST WANT TO WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU, LIKE HOW YOU ALWAYS LOOK [03:40:01] AT THIS NUMBERS OF OFFICERS TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ENOUGH, UH, COVERAGE FOR OUR CITY. SO THE, THE, THE NUMBER HERE OFTEN IS THERE SHOULD BE ONE OFFICER PER THOUSAND RESIDENTS. AND, UM, I, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT NUMBER CAME FROM. IT'S NOT FROM THE INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF CHIEFS OF POLICE. UM, I THINK STAFFING LEVELS IN THE DEPARTMENT DEPEND ON A LOT OF THINGS. IT DEPENDS ON CALL VOLUME, IT DEPENDS ON, IT, IT, IT'S UNIQUE FROM COMMUNITY TO COMMUNITY. UM, WE'LL TAKE ALL THE OFFICERS YOU WANT TO GIVE US, BUT I'M ALSO MINDFUL OF THE CITY'S RESOURCES. UM, SO I, I, I THINK WE'RE SUFFICIENT AND WE HAVE TO USE THE RESOURCES WE HAVE AND GET CREATIVE WITH OUR STAFFING LEVELS AND JUST LEVERAGE THOSE RESOURCES TO DEAL WITH PROBLEMS. SO RESIDENTIAL BURGLARIES, WE HAVE TO UP STAFF CERTAIN BEATS WITH MORE CARS. WE HAVE TO MAYBE PULL FROM OUR SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS OR OUR CRIME PREVENTION UNIT TO SUPPLEMENT THAT STAFFING LEVEL. I THINK OUR STAFFING LEVELS ARE SUFFICIENT RIGHT NOW. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH, THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS. AND DO WE HAVE, DO WE HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENTS? I HAVE NO SPEAKER SLIPS ON THE SIDE. MAYOR. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. AND, UM, THIS IS JUST FOR INFORMATION ONLY. SO I WANT TO ASK, ARE, ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS WE WANT TO MAKE ON THIS ONE? ANYBODY HAS ANY COMMENTS? I WOULD SAY GREAT, GREAT JOB. UM, DEFINITELY WANNA SEE SOME IMPROVEMENTS AND I THINK YOU HAVE SOME IDEAS IN, IN TERMS OF HOW, HOW TO MAKE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS. UM, UH, YEAH, LOOKING FORWARD TO, TO SEEING, SEEING MORE GREEN, UH, IN, IN SUBSEQUENT YEARS. THANK YOU. ANY COMMENTS? YOU KNOW, THIS WAS ALREADY BROUGHT UP BY A COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, AND THAT IS MAYBE A LITTLE MORE EXPLANATION ON TRENDS. UM, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE NUMBERS MEAN SOMETHING, RIGHT? AND, AND THE TRENDS MEAN SOMETHING. SO MAYBE SOME IDEA OF WHAT, WHAT WOULD THESE NUMBERS REALLY MEAN IN TERMS OF THE, THE, WHERE WE'RE GOING AS A CITY? SO THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY COMMENT. ANY COMMENTS? THE REPORT? I, I THOUGHT THAT YOU INCLUDED, UM, A LOT OF DATA. I LOVE THIS COMPARISON, WHICH WE'VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE. UM, IT'S PRESENTED IN A WAY THAT'S REALLY EASY FOR US TO FOLLOW, UM, AND FOR THE PUBLIC TO FOLLOW. UM, SO I JUST, I APPRECIATE ALL THE INFORMATION YOU GAVE US TONIGHT. THANK YOU. UM, COUNCIL MEMBER MARADA, ANY COMMENTS? NO FURTHER COMMENTS, MAYOR. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR GREAT WORK AND IT'S VERY COMPREHENSIVE DATA AND WE LEARN A LOT. AND ALSO THE STRATEGIES YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE FOCUS ARE ALL LIKE, UH, RIGHT THINGS FOR US. AND I WANT TO THANK YOU AGAIN AND THANKS ALL THE ENFORCEMENT, UM, OFFICERS THERE, AND WHICH IS LOOK, LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING TOGETHER AND SUPPORT ALL, ALL THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY. WITH THAT SAID, THANK YOU AGAIN. SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO AGENDA [9. CITY MANAGER AND CITY COUNCIL REPORTS ] ITEM NINE, ERIC COUNCIL MEMBERS. UM, WE HAVE OUR VOLUNTEER RECOGNITION EVENT ON FEBRUARY 25TH, AND I JUST WANNA, UH, REMIND THE COMMUNITY THAT YOU'VE GOT THREE, FOUR MORE DAYS TO GET IN YOUR NOMINATIONS FOR CITIZEN, YOUNG CITIZEN AND ORGANIZATION OF THE YEAR FOR 2025. THE DEADLINE IS FRIDAY. THAT'S ALL. PERFECT. THANK YOU. UM, WHO WANTS TO START FIRST? MICHAEL, YOU WANT TO START FIRST? YOU KNOW, I, I'LL BE REAL QUICK. NO, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. OKAY. OKAY, PERFECT. SO YOU WANT HAPPY TO GO? YEAH. UM, I DON'T THINK I SAID IT EARLIER. SO, HAPPY NEW YEAR'S, UH, ATTENDED THE OPENING FOR KAJI KIN RAMEN, WHICH IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF EMERALD, UH, REALLY GREAT FOOD. THEY HAVE, UH, AT LEAST ONE SUPER DELICIOUS, UH, VEGETARIAN OPTION ON THE RAMEN, WHICH WAS, WHICH IS GREAT. AND IT'S A, IT'S A BREATHLESS RAMEN. SO, UH, NEW, SOMETHING NEW FOR ME TO TRY. AND THEN, UM, ATTENDED, UH, A CFD, SO THE ALAMEDA COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENT RESCUE BOAT PRESENTATION, WHICH IS A LOT OF FUN. UH, WENT OUT ON A BOAT IN, UH, THROUGH SAN SAN LEANDRO MARINA AND, AND, UH, GOT TO SEE WHAT THEY'RE UP TO. SO, GREAT, GREAT EXPERIENCE. YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD? OH, NO. SO JOHN, YOU WANT TO START? UH, OF COURSE. I'M HAPPY TO GO, MAYOR. THANK YOU. UH, I TOO WILL GO FAIRLY QUICKLY. THE, UH, TWO ITEMS I HAVE IS THE ATTENDANCE OF THE ALAMEDA COUNTY LIBRARY, UM, UH, COMMISSION. UH, I'D LIKE TO ASK EVERYBODY TO JOIN ME IN, UH, WELCOMING DEB SIKA. DEBRA SIKA, WHO IS NOW THE, THE, WAS APPOINTED AS THE NEW COUNTY LIBRARIAN. SO SHE'D BEEN SERVING IN THAT ROLE, UM, AS INTERIM AND, UH, THEN SHE WAS OFFICIALLY APPOINTED. SO CONGRATULATIONS, DEB SIKA. AND THEN, UM, ALSO AT, UH, WITH, WITH REGARD TO AVA, UH, I'LL TAKE JUST A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA TIME. MAYOR, I, I, I APOLOGIZE. I [03:45:01] KNOW IT'S GETTING LATE, BUT I, IT DOES, DOES, DOES WARRANT A LITTLE BIT OF EXPLANATION TO THE PUBLIC, WHICH IS THAT, UH, THERE WERE TWO ARTICLES WRITTEN IN THE INDEPENDENT ABOUT THE AVA ENERGY BILL CREDIT. SO ALLOW ME TO EXPLAIN THE CONTEXT OF WHAT THAT WAS, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THE INDEPENDENT GAVE E ENOUGH TO, TO, UH, CREDIT TO THAT. SO IN THE SUMMER OF LAST YEAR, UH, AVA, UM, FORECASTED A SURPLUS OF $137 MILLION. THE BOARD, UH, AND ALSO THE, THE, UH, CUSTOMER ADVISORY COUNCIL, UH, VOTED TO GIVE 10% OF THAT SURPLUS BACK TO THE PUBLIC AS A BILL CREDIT, WHICH WOULD'VE ACCOUNTED TO ABOUT $13.7 MILLION, OR FOR US SPECIFICALLY OF RESIDENTS, ABOUT $80 OFF OF YOUR ENERGY BILL. THAT WAS THE SUMMER IN THE FALL WHEN WE ACTUALLY DID OUR FINANCIAL ANALYSIS AS WELL AS OUR PURSUANT BUDGET. WE FOUND THAT IN 2026, UH, THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR AVA TO BE AT A $250 MILLION DEFICIT. SO THAT CAME AT THE HEELS OF THE RATE CHANGES BY PG E, WHICH WHEN PG E REDUCES RATES, AVA LOSES MONEY AS WELL. SO THAT'S THE PART THAT I DON'T THINK THE ARTICLES EXPLAINED VERY WELL. SO IN ORDER TO FULFILL THAT DEFICIT, WE HAD TO REMOVE THE BILL CREDIT. WE ALSO HAD TO, UM, TRADE BACK SOME OF THE LOCAL DEVELOPMENT DOLLARS THAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY, UM, ALLOCATED, BUT THEY WERE UNMARKED. UH, SO THEY WERE UN THEY WERE NOT EARMARKED. SO WE WERE ABLE TO RETURN THOSE. BUT THEN ALSO THERE WAS A 25 BASIS POINT INCREASE IN ENERGY, UM, COST AS WELL, THAT ALL TOGETHER, UH, AND I I, I HATE TO BE THE BARE BAD NEWS, BUT THAT ALTOGETHER WAS FAR LESS OF A FINANCIAL IMPACT THAN THE 5% THAT WE WOULD'VE HAD TO PAY TO BORROW MONEY IN ORDER TO KEEP THE COMPANY RUNNING. SO AS MAYOR JACK BCH HAD PROVIDED DURING HIS, UM, HIS, HIS, UM, UH, COMMENTARY WAS THAT WE SHOULD NOT BE DEBT FINANCING OPERATIONS OF THE BUSINESS. UH, SO THAT IS THE COMMENTARY. UH, AND I'LL CLOSE OUT ON THAT SIMPLY BY SAYING THAT, UM, I FEEL WE MADE THE RIGHT CHOICE. I DO APOLOGIZE TO THE PUBLIC THAT YOU WILL NOT BE GETTING THAT ENERGY CREDIT THAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY PROMISED IN THE SUMMER. BUT, UM, IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAD TO DO IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THE, THE SUSTAINABILITY OF EVA ENERGY. THAT'S IT. MAYOR, BACK TO THANK, THANK YOU. UM, SO, SO LOT OF ACTIVITIES BEFORE THE CHRISTMAS, UM, YEAH, INCLUDING THAT, UH, GRAND OPENING OF THE RAM PLACE, LIKE THAT, AND ALSO MEETING. AND ALSO THERE'S A NEW YEAR'S CELEBRATION. THERE'S A LOTS OF THINGS GOING ON. GOVERNOR'S OFFICE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE REPRESENTATIVES VISITED US AND ITV BOARD MEETING, SO LOTS OF MEETINGS. WITH THAT SAID, WE'LL ADJOURN OUR MEETING AT, DID YOU, DID YOU WANT ME TO GIVE A REPORT? OH, I FORGOT. SORRY. THAT'S OKAY. THAT LIKE A OKAY, PLEASE. THAT'S OKAY. YEAH. UM, JUST VERY BRIEFLY, WE DID HAVE, UM, A COUPLE OF STOP WASTE MEETINGS, UM, WHERE WE'RE TALKING BUDGET AS WELL. UM, AND THEN ALSO LTA, UM, TALKING ABOUT THE HYDROGEN. THE ORIGINAL PLAN FOR LTA TO MEET THE STATE'S MANDATED, UM, ZERO EMISSIONS BUS PLAN WAS TO GET HYDROGEN BUSES. UM, WE ARE RETHINKING POTENTIALLY THAT PLAN, SO IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THAT, UM, COME SEE EITHER MR. MCC OR MYSELF. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO WE AJOUR MEETING AT 11 4:00 PM. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.