[1. CALL TO ORDER]
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GOOD EVENING.UM, I WOULD LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE DUBLIN PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF MAY 26.
AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
NO NATION UNDER GOD,
[3.PRESENTATIONS ]
ON TO AGENDA NUMBER THREE.WE HAVE PRESENTATIONS, UM, PRESENTATION FOR 2026 TO 2076.
COMMUNITY TIME CAPSULE PROJECT BY MR. CHICO TOKI.
DID I DO JUSTICE TO YOUR NAME? PERFECT.
UH, GOOD EVENING, YOUR HONORABLE CHAIR, VICE CHAIR PLANNING COMMISSIONERS.
UH, SEAN KOTOWSKI, THE, UH, RECREATION MANAGER AT THE PARKS AND COMMUNITY SERVICE DEPARTMENT.
UH, THE ITEM FOR YOU TONIGHT IS OUR, IT'S THE 2026.
SOUNDS WEIRD SAYING THAT, UH, COMMUNITY TIME CAPSULE PROJECT, JUST, UH, A VERY BRIEF, KIND OF INFORMATIONAL, UM, ITEM.
WE CAN JUST BRING SOME AWARENESS, UM, MAYBE ANY, ANY FEEDBACK THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
UM, SO JUST, AGAIN, IT'S THAT A 50 YEAR AND I UNDERSCORED OR UNDER, SORRY, UNDERLINED, UH, COMMUNITY HERE.
UM, THIS IS REALLY A COMMUNITY TIME CAPSULE.
UM, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS IN, IN CELEBRATION OF THE UNITED STATES 250TH ANNIVERSARY, UM, THERE'S, THE CITY IS HOSTING A, THE RED, WHITE, AND BLUE BACKYARD BASH ON 4TH OF JULY THIS YEAR.
IT'LL TAKE PLACE, UM, ACTUALLY JUST RIGHT ACROSS THE WAY HERE.
IT'S LIKE, HEY, WELL, HOW ARE WE GONNA, HOW DO WE COMMEMORATE THE, THE TIME, THE MOMENT, UM, SAID, HEY, WHAT'S, WHY NOT DO A TIME CAPSULE? UM, SO, UH, HERE WE ARE AGAIN, UNDERLINED COMMUNITY INSTEAD OF JUST, YOU KNOW, CITY STAFF COLLECTING A WHOLE BUNCH OF RANDOM ITEMS, THROWING 'EM IN A BOX.
UM, WE'VE, WE'VE OPENED THIS UP TO THE COMMUNITY.
SO WE'VE GATHERED A, A LENGTHY LIST OF LOCAL COMMUNITY GROUPS, UH, CBOS, NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS, YOU KNOW, THE DUBLIN LITTLE LEAGUES, OPEN SOCCERS, ARTS COLLECTIVE, ANYTHING, UM, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU CAN THINK OF.
AND WE'VE, WE'VE THROWN IT OUT THERE, OPENED UP THE OPPORTUNITY, UM, TO THESE ORGANIZATIONS TO PARTICIPATE.
UM, OF COURSE, HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS ALL I'M SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM ME, UM, LAST WEEK.
UM, IF YOU DIDN'T, UM, DEFINITELY CAN GET AHOLD OF ME OR, UM, UH, JENNIFER HERE OR KATHY, UM, CAN HELP, UH, MAKE SURE YOU GOT THAT EMAIL ASKING IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONERS ARE INTERESTED IN, IN PARTICIPATING.
UM, WOULD LOVE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, SOME, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING TO, TO PUT IN THERE FOR, YOU KNOW, FUTURE COMMISSIONERS, YOU KNOW, 50 YEARS FROM NOW, UM, TO, TO LOOK BACK.
THAT'S, UM, REALLY WHERE WE'RE AT NOW.
WE'RE IN A, WE'RE IN THE PROMOTION PHASE.
UM, AS YOU SEE HERE IN MAY, AGAIN, IT'S, WE'RE, IT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
UM, WE'RE OBVIOUSLY, IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HERE TONIGHT, WE'RE ADVERTISING IT.
WE'RE NOT BROADLY KIND OF ADVERTISING, UM, JUST BECAUSE IT IS, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE SPACE FOR EVERY, YOU KNOW, RESIDENT, EVERY FAMILY, EVERY COMMUNITY MEMBER TO, TO CONTRIBUTE TO THIS.
SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, EVEN THE LOCAL BOY SCOUTS, GIRL SCOUT TROOPS, WE'RE ASKING, HEY, ALL OF THE DIFFERENT TROOPS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, COME TOGETHER AS ONE, UM, TOIT, UM, WITH A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT CRICKET ORGANIZATIONS IN THE COMMUNITY.
WE'D ASK 'EM ALL, HEY, COME TOGETHER AS A GROUP, UM, YOU KNOW, AND FILL, WHAT THEY HAVE IS, IS CAPLETS.
SO WITHIN THE LARGER TIME CAPSULE IS INDIVIDUAL CAPLETS.
SO EACH COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION IS PROVIDED A CAPLET.
THEY CAN FILL IT UP WITH WHATEVER FITS AS LONG AS IT'S, IT'S NOT FOOD OR BATTERIES OR SOMETHING THAT'S, YOU KNOW, NOT GONNA LAST 50 YEARS.
UM, AND WE WILL, IT'S PROBABLY PAST MY TIME, BUT IN 2076, SOMEBODY WILL, WILL OPEN IT UP.
UM, NOT ME AGAIN, WE'RE DOING A KIND OF A CEREMONIAL, UM, CEILING AT THE RED, WHITE AND BLUE BACKYARD BASH ON 4TH OF JULY.
AND IF, YOU KNOW, 50 YEARS FROM NOW, YOU KNOW, IF THEY WANNA OPEN UP ON THE 4TH OF JULY, UM, THEY CAN DO THAT.
WE ARE GONNA PUT IT, THE INTENT IS TO PUT IT ON DISPLAY, ACTUALLY HERE IN THE LOBBY, A LOT OF TIMES WITH TIME CAPSULES, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE OLD, YOU KNOW, PUT IT UNDERGROUND FOR 50 YEARS, DIG IT UP.
I THINK IN KIND OF MODERN TIMES IT'D SAY, WHY GO THROUGH THE EFFORT? AND THEN YOU OPEN UP AND IT'S WORMS EARTH, YOU KNOW, ORGANIC.
IT JUST, IT TURNS INTO, SO WHY NOT SEAL IT UP, PUT IT ON DISPLAY AND, YOU KNOW, IT'LL, IT'LL BE HERE 50 YEARS FROM NOW.
THIS IS, I, I KNOW IT'S HARD TO SEE, UM, THE FLYER THAT WAS ATTACHED TO THE EMAIL, UM, THIS IS KIND OF SOME TECHNICAL DRAWINGS OF THE, THE TIME CAPSULE ITSELF.
UH, THESE ARE THE ACTUAL CAPLETS.
UM, SO JUST LITTLE PLASTIC CONTAINERS, UM, HIGH QUALITY PLASTIC THAT CAN BE SEALED.
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IT'S THEN THE INTENT HERE IS WE CAN EITHER ROLL UP, YOU KNOW, PAPER OR FOLD PAPER TO FIT IN THEM WITHOUT HAVING TO COMPLETELY, UM, YOU KNOW, BANGO IT.AND THEN ACTUALLY THE, THE TIME CAPSULE ITSELF.
SO IT'S, IT'S NOT HUGE, BUT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S HEFTY.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND HAPPY WITH ANY QUESTIONS, THOUGHTS, FEEDBACK.
YOU SAID LIKE THAT, UH, CAPLET ONE WILL BE GIVEN FOR ONE ORGANIZATION.
IS THAT CORRECT? HOW BIG IS IT? LIKE, UH, THE THREE BY THREE BY 10.
SO I THINK PHOTOS CAN FIT EASILY AND MAYBE SOME SMALL MERA CAN FIT, I THINK PROBABLY.
AND, UH, WHAT WE ARE ASKING, I THINK YOU SAW THE EMAIL, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE ASKING FOR EVERYTHING, UM, ELECTRONICALLY AS WELL.
POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, JUST FOR RECORD KEEPING ARCHIVING, YOU KNOW, WE WILL SAVE STUFF ELECTRONICALLY AND WE TALK ABOUT, HEY, THROWING, YOU KNOW, USB FLASH DRIVES IN THERE, BUT IN, IN 50 YEARS FROM NOW, WHO KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S A USB FLASH DRIVE? WHO KNOWS
WHAT DOES SELECTION PROCESS LOOK LIKE OR CRITERIA ON THE, THE ITEM SELECTED? WHAT'S THE CRITERIA FOR THAT? AS LONG AS IT, IT KIND OF A, A VERY, YOU KNOW, NOTHING TOO SPECIFIC, AS LONG AS IT'S, AGAIN, NOTHING, YOU KNOW, NOTHING FOOD, BATTERIES, NOTHING THAT'S, YOU KNOW, COMBUSTIBLE, NOTHING.
YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THINGS THAT THAT'LL STAND UP, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR 50 YEARS, YOU KNOW, WE'LL PRINT, UM, ON, YOU KNOW, ARCHIVAL QUALITY PAPER.
SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S NEWSPAPER CLIPPINGS THAT ARE, THEY'RE GONNA FADE IN A COUPLE YEARS, SO, WE'LL, WE'LL TRY TO DO OUR BEST TO, TO PRESERVE WHATEVER IT IS.
ANYONE ELSE? AND WHERE CAN THEY DROP OFF IF THESE THINGS, LIKE THESE ORGANIZATIONS WHO HAVE RECEIVED THE EMAIL? YEAH.
UM, THEY'LL BE IN CONTACT WITH, UM, WITH MYSELF.
UM, AND WE'LL COORDINATE, YOU KNOW, DROPPING OFF THE CAP WITH, TO BE HONEST, WE DO WANNA VERIFY WHAT GOES IN IT BEFORE THE ORGANIZATIONS, YOU KNOW, SEAL IT UP.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S A BRIEF FORM THAT THE ORGANIZATIONS FILL OUT JUST SO WE WE HAVE AN ACCURATE RECORD OF WHAT'S ACTUALLY INSIDE.
OH, SORRY, I, I REPLIED YOUR, YOUR EMAIL ALREADY.
MY QUESTION HERE IS THE, THE MESSAGE WE GONNA, UH, WRITE IT AND WE HAVE TO PRINT IT OUT.
TAKE THE PAPER WE'RE PUTTING IN USPU DRIVE OR JUST EMAIL WAS GOOD.
AND, AND I SAW THIS, UH, LIKE A PHOTOGRAPH IS OKAY, OR, UH, COOL.
UH, ONE QUICK QUESTION FOR ME.
DO WE KNOW WHERE, WHERE YOU WANT TO PUT THE, UM, TIME CAMPS CAPSULE IN WHICH PARK OR, UH, UH, DISPLAY? RIGHT HERE IN THE LOBBY.
OH, AT, RIGHT HERE IN THE LOBBY HERE.
THIS IS WHERE IT'S GONNA STAY? YEAH, IT'LL BE, IT'LL BE RIGHT OUTSIDE THE COUNCIL CHAMBER HERE.
SO THE BIG, THE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S ABOUT THREE FOOT, UM, LONG.
SO IT'LL, YOU KNOW, RIGHT OUTSIDE, IT'LL HAVE A LITTLE PLAQUE, YOU KNOW, IDENTIFYING WHAT IT IS.
OH, IT'S GONNA BE IN THE CITY HALL.
THAT'S WHAT I, I WAS THINKING, I'LL BE HONEST, WHEN WE DESIGNED THIS, IT WAS ACTUALLY, IT WAS INTENDED TO, YOU KNOW, METAL BOX INSIDE OF A CONCRETE VAULT, AND THEN IT WAS KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WHY THE TIME AND EFFORT AND, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL HEARTACHE, YOU KNOW, WINE.
SO, BUT SIMILARLY, EMERALD HIGH SCHOOL, YOU KNOW, THEY DID A TIME CAPSULE.
THE SCHOOL OPENED AND DID A SIMILAR THING.
I THINK IT'S JUST ON DISPLAY, LIKE IN THE OFFICE.
DO YOU THINK, UH, YOU HAVE TO OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, JUST CASE I DO? YES, YOU DO.
UM, AT THIS TIME, THE PUBLIC MAY ADDRESS THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA IN ACCORDANCE, AM I? NO, YOU DO HAVE TO, I OPEN UP ITEM 3.1, THE PRESENTATION IN CASE THERE IS ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT SPECIFICALLY ON THAT.
UM, SO I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN UP, OPEN, UM, THE PUBLIC HEARING IF ANYBODY HAS ANY COMMENTS ON THE TIME CAPSULE ITEM.
UM, I GUESS ANY COMMENT CARD, KATHY? NO, I DO NOT HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKER CARDS FOR THIS ITEM.
THEREFORE, THE CLOSE OF COMMENT PERIOD, I MEAN, COMMENT, UH, UH, UH, CLOSE OF PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS POINT ON THIS ITEM.
UM, SO DO WE VOTE, UH, JENNIFER? NO, YOU DON'T NEED TO TAKE ACTION ON IT, BUT OKAY.
WE DO HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE PROVIDING OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC.
NOW WE'RE MOVING ON TO AGENDA NUMBER FOUR.
UH, THIS, AT THIS TIME, THE PUBLIC MAY ADDRESS THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW.
NO ACTION OR DISCUSSION MAY TAKE PLACE ON ANY ITEMS, NOT ON THE AGENDA.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAY BRIEFLY RESPOND TO STATEMENTS
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MADE OR QUESTIONS ASKED.ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENT CARDS? KATHY? UH, NO.
I DO NOT HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR ITEM FOUR EITHER.
[5.CONSENT CALENDAR ]
MOVING ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS THE CONSENT CALENDAR.UM, WE HAVE TO APPROVE, THE COMMISSION HAS TO APPROVE THE MAY 12TH, 2026 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES.
I'M HOPING COMMISSIONERS YOU HAD, UH, LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO REVIEW ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY EDITS RECOMMENDED FROM ANY OF YOU? ME NEITHER.
SO THEN MAYBE WE CAN MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
I MAKE A MOTION TO, UM, I'M MOVED TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR TUESDAY, MAY 12TH MEETING.
AND A SECOND MAYBE FROM ANYBODY ELSE.
UM, WITH THAT, UM, UH, THOSE OF YOU ARE IN FAVOR AND YOU SAY, AYE.
[6.1 Dublin Centre DA Amendment (PLPA-004414-2026) ]
ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM, UH, PUBLIC HEARING FOR A AGENDA NUMBER 6.1.I THINK AMY'S GONNA MAKE A PRESENTATION.
AMY'S ALREADY THERE AT THE PODIUM.
AMY MILLION COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.
IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE BACK HERE THIS EVENING.
UH, KATHY, CAN I GET RID OF THIS UP HERE? HOW DO I DO THAT? OKAY, AWESOME.
UM, SO THIS EVENING WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AMENDMENT FOR THE DUBLIN CENTER PROJECT.
I'M GONNA GO INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL THAN I NORMALLY WOULD, UH, JUST BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE'S THINK ONLY ONE COMMISSIONER THAT WAS HERE DURING THE DUBLIN CENTER PROJECT.
AND I WANNA MAKE SURE, UH, THAT YOU GUYS AT LEAST UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, BEFORE YOU TAKE THE ACTION ON IT.
SO, UH, THIS PROJECT ARGUABLY GOES BACK ABOUT 10 YEARS, BUT I'M NOT GONNA TAKE YOU BACK THAT FAR.
I'M GONNA TAKE YOU BACK TO 2021, UH, WHERE WE DID AN OUTREACH PROCESS AND THE RE YOU'LL, YOU'LL KIND OF SEE A THEME HERE AND WHY ALL OF THIS TIES TOGETHER.
BUT ESSENTIALLY, UH, WE DID ABOUT A YEAR LONG COMMUNITY OUTREACH PROCESS, WHICH REALLY FOCUSED ON WHAT KIND OF LAND USES THAT WE WANTED FOR THIS, UH, PROPERTY.
AND WHAT THAT RESULTED IN IS A PREFERRED PLAN.
SO THAT WAS APPROVED IN FEBRUARY OF 2022, AND IT HAD FIVE MAIN COMPONENTS TO IT.
IT WAS, IT SPOKE TO INTEGRATING THE PEO AND A TOWN SQUARE.
SO THE TOWN SQUARE IS A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE GONNA, A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT TONIGHT.
AND THE PEO IS ESSENTIALLY THE TWO ACRE PARK THAT RUNS THROUGH THE SITE.
UH, IT SPOKE TO IMPROVING VISIBILITY AND ACCESS.
SO THAT WAS REALLY SPEAKING TO THE GRID THAT WAS PROPOSED, AS WELL AS CREATING SOME PEEKABOO MOMENTS TO THE PARK.
I TALKED ABOUT DIVERSIFYING HOUSING TYPES.
SO THAT WAS CREATING SINGLE FAMILY AND ADUS TOWN HOMES, AFFORDABLE UNITS, UH, DEDICATION OF AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING SITE, AND A PEDESTRIAN FOCUSED ENTERTAINMENT.
SO THE PEDESTRIAN FOCUSED ENTERTAINMENT WAS FOR THE AREA SOUTH OF DUBLIN BOULEVARD.
AND SO THAT WILL PLAY A ROLE A LITTLE BIT LATER.
UM, SO AT THE END OF 22, UH, THE SCS WAS THE, WAS THE PROPERTY OWNER AT THE TIME.
AND THEY, COMING OFF OF THE PREFERRED, PREFERRED PLAN FOR THE PROPERTY, THEY, UH, REQUESTED, UH, SOME INITIAL ENTITLEMENTS.
AND SO THEY RECEIVED, RECEIVED APPROVAL OF A GENERAL PLAN IN EASTERN DILIN SPECIFIC PLAN AMENDMENT.
THEY RECEIVED APPROVAL FOR A PLAN DEVELOPMENT REZONE, AS WELL AS A, THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT TONIGHT.
AND OF COURSE, THERE WAS AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
SO THE SCOPE OF THAT PROJECT WAS THE ENTIRETY OF THE SCS PROJECT, WHICH IS WHAT YOU SEE HERE.
SO ESSENTIALLY GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN TO FIVE 80, ALL THE WAY UP A LITTLE BIT NORTH OF GLEASON, AND THEN FROM TASSAJARA TO BRANIGAN STREET.
SO THE SCOPE OF THAT ENTIRE PROJECT, 650 UNITS, 265,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL, THE TWO ACRE PARK, AS WELL AS A COMMUNITY EVENT SPACE.
SO, FAST FORWARD A LITTLE BIT.
SES UH, CAME INTO CONTRACT WITH LANDSEA HOMES TO DEVELOP THE MAJORITY OF THE SITE.
AND AT THAT POINT, THE PROJECT WAS REBRANDED AS DUBLIN CENTER.
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SO LANDSEA CAME IN AND THEY ASKED FOR A SITE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PERMIT AND THE VESTING TENTATIVE MAPS.UH, THEY RECEIVED APPROVAL FOR THOSE BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN FEBRUARY OF 2024.
AND THE SCOPE OF THAT PROJECT WAS A LITTLE BIT SMALLER.
AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS 'CAUSE IT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE AREA SOUTH OF DUBLIN BOULEVARD.
SO 500 RESIDENTIAL UNITS, 38,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL.
THAT 38,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL IS A LONG FINN AND WAY.
SO WHERE FINN AND WAY, UH, EXTENDS IS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF DEAD ENDS TO THE SCHOOL, TO THE EAST, BUT IT DEAD ENDS TO THE SHOPS AT WATERFORD ON THE WEST.
SO RIGHT THERE WHERE PETE'S COPY IS, UM, IS RIGHT WHERE PHON WILL EXTEND TO.
AND THEN OF COURSE, IT INCLUDES A TWO ACRE PUBLIC PARK AND THE, UH, COMMUNITY EVENT BUILDING.
SO DIGGING A LITTLE BIT INTO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND WHY WE'RE HERE THIS EVENING.
SO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, AS I MENTIONED, WAS APPROVED IN DECEMBER OF, UH, 2022 BY ORDINANCE 1522.
UH, SO JUST SO WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.
SO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS ESSENTIALLY A CONTRACT BETWEEN A PROPERTY DEVELOPER AND THE CITY.
IT PROVIDES A DEVELOPER SOME CERTAINTIES.
ESSENTIALLY WHAT IT DOES IS IT SUSPENDS, IT HOLDS, IT FREEZES WHATEVER WORD YOU WANNA USE.
UH, THE LAND USE AND ZONING, IT LOCKS IT IN.
SO IT PROVIDES THEM CERTAINTY SO THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD KNOWING WHAT, UH, THEIR RULES ARE MOVING FORWARD.
THE PURPOSE OF THEM THOUGH IS TO HAVE, IT'S, IT'S MUTUAL.
IT'S A MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL CONTRACT, RIGHT? SO DEVELOPER ASK FOR SOMETHING, THE CITY THEN IN TURN ASK FOR SOMETHING.
SO THE WAY THAT THE CONTRACT READS IS, AGAIN, SUPPOSED TO BE A MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL CONTRACT.
SO THERE'S THREE PIECES OF THIS, UH, CONTRACT THAT I WANNA HIGHLIGHT JUST 'CAUSE THOSE ARE THE THREE WE'RE GONNA KIND OF TALK ABOUT TONIGHT.
SO SECTION 5.9 IS THE PROJECT PHASING.
UM, WHAT THE DEVELOPER WANTED TO BE ABLE TO DO, UH, IS DO A SITE PREP AND A MASQUERADING OF THE ENTIRE SITE.
UH, THE SITE HAS A LITTLE BIT OF TOPOGRAPHY ON IT.
I'M SURE YOU GUYS HAVE NOTICED THAT GLEASON IS HIGHER THAN, UH, DUBLIN BOULEVARD.
AND SO THE MASQUERADING ALLOWED THEM TO MOVE THE DIRT ACROSS THE ENTIRE SITE AND GET THE SITE READY, UH, TO MOVE FORWARD.
UH, THE, SO THAT WAS PHASE ONE.
SO PHASE TWO, UH, YOU KNOW, THE CITY AT THE TIME WAS REALLY CONCERNED.
WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE, UH, LEARNING FROM PAST MISTAKES THAT THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS DID NOT WHOLLY DEVELOP BEFORE THE COMMERCIAL, RIGHT? WE'VE HAD SITUATIONS WHERE WE'VE HAD A MIXED USE PROJECT, AND LO AND BEHOLD, WE DON'T GET THE COMMERCIAL RIGHT.
SO WE WANTED TO GET AHEAD OF THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THAT.
AND SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE TIED THE RESIDENTIAL PERMITS TO THE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS ALONG FINNAN WAY, SO THAT MOST OF THAT 38,000 SQUARE FEET ALONG FINNA AND WAY, WE TIED TOGETHER, UH, SECTION 16 OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT SPEAKS TO TRANSFERS AND ASSIGNMENTS.
THE ONLY REASON THIS IS IMPORTANT IS BECAUSE, UH, SCS DOESN'T OWN THE PROPERTY ANYMORE NORTH OF DUBLIN BOULEVARD.
SO THEY HAD TO, UH, TRANSFER THAT.
THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AGREEMENT KNEW THAT THAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.
SO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ACKNOWLEDGES THAT LAN WAS GOING TO TAKE, UH, THE ENTITLEMENTS.
THE ONLY NUANCE TO THIS IS THAT, UH, THERE WAS A PARTIAL ASSIGNMENT.
SO THERE WAS A COUPLE PIECES OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT SPECIFICALLY PER PERTAINED TO THE AREA OF THE DEVELOPMENT SOUTH OF DUMB BOULEVARD, THAT'S NORTHSIDE DRIVE AND BRANIGAN STREET.
SO SCS MAINTAINED THOSE PORTIONS OF THE AGREEMENT.
SO LANCE IS ESSENTIALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING NORTH OF DUMB BOULEVARD AND ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
AND THEN SECTION NINE IS THE AMENDMENT SECTION.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE THIS EVENING.
ESSENTIALLY WHAT IT SAYS IS, IF YOU'RE GOING TO AMEND THE AGREEMENT, YOU HAVE TO GO BACK AND DO IT THE SAME WAY THAT YOU APPROVE THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENT.
SO WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? THE CITY DOES, UH, DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS THROUGH ORDINANCE.
SO ORDINANCE IS VERY, IS THE SAME PROCESS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A THOUSAND TIMES, WHICH IS, UM, ZONING, TEXT AMENDMENTS IS AN EXAMPLE OF AN ORDINANCE.
IT'S A PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL.
CITY COUNCIL THEN HAS A FIRST AND SECOND READING.
CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE AND JUST, JUST REPEAT THE PHASE TWO ONE? I I DIDN'T QUITE GET THAT, THE PHASE TWO.
SO SECTION FIVE, NINE OF THE PROJECT PHASING THAT, THAT IS THE PARAGRAPH IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
ESSENTIALLY IT OUTLINED TWO PHASES, RIGHT? ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THE FIRST PHASE WAS GOING TO BE THE SITE PREP AND THE MASQUERADING.
AND THE SECOND ONE WAS RELATED TO THE SITE IMPROVEMENTS IN VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION.
SO WHAT IT SAID WAS, IN ORDER TO, I'M PARAPHRASING, BUT IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS DID NOT DEVELOP WHOLLY BEFORE THE COMMERCIAL, RIGHT? WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE BUILDING COMMERCIAL, THAT WE AREN'T GOING, WE AREN'T GOING TO ISSUE
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ALL OF THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDING PERMITS UNTIL YOU START POLLING COMMERCIAL PERMITS, RIGHT? IT'S A MIXED USE PROJECT.WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE MIXED USE IS HAPPENING TOGETHER, RIGHT? OKAY.
UH, SO LET'S FAST FORWARD, RIGHT? UH, IT'S 2026.
WE HAVE SOME MARKET REALITIES.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING, I'M, I'M GONNA BE HONEST, IT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD HAVE THOUGHT OF WHEN WE DRAFTED THE AGREEMENT, RIGHT? UM, AND ONE OF THOSE IS THE REALITY THAT COMMERCIAL SPACES LIKE TO HAVE COMPLETE INFRASTRUCTURE.
THEY LIKE TO HAVE IT EASILY ACCESSIBLE, AND THEY LIKE TO HAVE, UH, SORT OF A, A BASE OF RESIDENTIAL THAT CAN COME ACCESS THEM.
FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT ALL OF YOU WEREN'T HERE, BUT IF ANY OF YOU PARTICIPATED IN THE OUTREACH PROCESS THAT WE DID IN, IN 21, UH, ONE THING THAT WE REALLY LEARNED IS HOW IMPORTANT IT IS, UH, TO HAVE RESIDENTIAL WHEN YOU HAVE COMMERCIAL, RIGHT? THEY, THEY SUPPORT EACH OTHER.
UH, AND SO WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS, UH, AN ASK ESSENTIALLY BY THE DEVELOPER TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT QUITE READY TO BUILD THE COMMERCIAL, AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ALL OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN YET, RIGHT? WE DON'T HAVE THE RESIDENTIAL BASE IN THERE YET.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS SO PEOPLE CAN PARK AND THAT WE HAVE THE RESIDENTS THERE SO THAT PEOPLE WILL GO AND, YOU KNOW, SORT OF BUILD IN YOUR CLIENTELE.
SO ALL OF THIS MAKES SENSE, RIGHT? IT WAS ONE OF THOSE KIND OF HINDSIGHT.
UM, SO WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR IS A MAXIMUM OF 250 MARKET RATE RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
THE REASON WHY WE'RE DENOTING MARKET RATE RESIDENTIAL UNITS IS BECAUSE AT THE TIME WE DIDN'T WANT TO, UM, PENALIZE, UH, THIS COMMISSION CONSIDERED THE, UH, GRACE POINT PROJECT, THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT.
IF FOR SOME REASON THEY WERE ABLE TO GO FORWARD, WE WANTED THAT PROJECT TO BE ABLE TO GO FORWARD.
UH, SO WHAT WE'RE ESSENTIALLY, WHAT WE'RE ESSENTIALLY BEING ASKED FOR TONIGHT IS A MAXIMUM OF 250 RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
NOW, IN EXCHANGE FOR THAT, UH, THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT SAID YOU HAVE TO PULL ONE OF THE FIVE COMMERCIAL PERMITS.
SO ZOOMING INTO THE SITE PLAN HERE, UH, YOU'VE GOT, THIS IS ORIENTED NORTH IS TO YOUR LEFT
SO, UM, TASSAJARA IS ON THE BOTTOM AND DUBLIN BOULEVARD IS TO THE RIGHT.
AND THOSE, ESSENTIALLY THOSE FIVE BIG RED BOXES, THOSE ARE YOUR FIVE STANDALONE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS.
SO THOSE WILL, UH, ESSENTIALLY CREATE THE PHON SQUARE.
UH, AND SO WHAT, WHAT THE AGREEMENT IS BEING MODIFIED TO IS NOT JUST OBTAIN ONE OF THOSE PERMITS, BUT OBTAIN ALL FIVE, UM, AND THEN MAKE REASONABLE EFFORTS TOWARDS THE CONSTRUCTION, RIGHT? AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS APPLYING FOR THE BUILDING PERMIT, PULLING THE BUILDING PERMIT, BREAKING GROUND, AND THEN DOING THE MARKETING.
THAT'S WHAT, YOU KNOW, SORT OF REASONABLE EFFORTS, UH, MEANS IN THIS CONTEXT.
SO WITH THAT, UH, WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, CONDUCT THE PUBLIC HEARING DELIBERATE ADOPT A RESOLUTION, RECOMMENDING CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR THE PROJECT.
AND I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
HEY, UH, THANKS FOR PUTTING THIS, UH, SLIDE.
IF WE CAN GO BACK, UH, ONE, WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT IT, ARE THEY ASKING FOR LIKE, I THINK THE TOTAL PROJECT THERE IS HOW MANY 500 UNITS OR 600 UNITS IN THAT SIX 50.
650, RIGHT? SO THE, THE TOTAL FOR THE, THE ORIGINAL ENTITLEMENT WAS 650 UHHUH
THE, THE RESIDUAL OF THAT 100 THAT WAS EARMARKED FOR THE GRACE POINT PROJECT.
SO THAT UNIT COUNT ISN'T CHANGING.
THAT'S PART, THAT'S WHAT'S ALREADY APPROVED AND ALREADY BEING IMPLEMENTED.
SO AMY, LIKE, IF I REMEMBER, THERE ARE THREE PIECES, RIGHT? ONE IS SOUTH OF DUBLIN, WE DON'T HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THAT NORTH OF DUBLIN AND UP TO CENTRAL PARKWAY.
THAT IS WHAT THIS ONE IS, CORRECT? THAT IS, THIS IS, SO, I KNOW IT'S REALLY HARD TO SEE, BUT THIS, THAT IS DUBLIN.
THIS IS CENTRAL, THIS IS GLEASON.
SO, SO ALL THE CONSTRUCTION THAT YOU SEE OUT THERE TODAY, RIGHT? YEAH.
THAT IS LAND C IMPLEMENTING THEIR ENTITLEMENTS.
SO I STILL DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE ASK.
IS THE ASK THEY WANT TO SELL 250 RESIDENTIAL UNITS NOT TIED TO THE COMMERCIAL PERMIT? NO.
I I THINK I, I MISSED A VALUABLE WORD HERE.
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IS THAT THEY, THEY ARE, WE, THEY'RE ASKING US TO ISSUE UP TO 250 RESIDENTIAL PERMITS, RIGHT? SO THAT'S PULLING A BUILDING PERMIT SO THAT THEY CAN BREAK GROUND AND BUILD A UNIT MM-HMMUH, THAT WOULD BE THE MAXIMUM THRESHOLD BEFORE WE SAY WE'RE NOT GONNA GIVE YOU 251 PERMITS UNTIL YOU OBTAIN THE BUILDING PERMITS FOR THE FIVE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS.
NOW, COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS ARE ONE EXPENSIVE TO BUILD, BUT TWO, ALSO EXPENSIVE TO PULL PERMITS ON.
THERE'S A LOT OF IMPACT FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
SO THAT'S A BIG MILESTONE FOR THEM.
SO THAT'S WHY WHEN WE ATTACH THOSE TWO THINGS TOGETHER, IT MEANS SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, HERE'S A DOLLAR, GIVE ME YOUR PERMIT.
RIGHT? IT'S, IT, IT'S EXPENSIVE.
SO WHAT WAS THERE BEFORE WAS, UH, THEY COULDN'T GET ANY RESIDENTIAL PERMIT TILL THEY GOT THE COMMERCIAL PROJECTS.
WHAT IT, WHAT IT SAID ORIGINALLY IS THAT YOU NEEDED TO, THERE WAS A, SOME LANGUAGE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, A BONDING AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND GETTING SOME IMPROVEMENT PLANS.
ALL OF THAT HAS, UH, HAPPENED, WHICH IS WHY I DIDN'T SORT OF TOUCH ON THAT.
UM, AND THEN, UH, BUT IT WAS BEFORE YOU CAN START BUILDING THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS, YOU NEED TO OBTAIN ONE COMMERCIAL PERMIT.
THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL REQUIREMENT,
SO THE, TO GO FOR 250, BUT AGAIN, IT'S A MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL AGREEMENT, RIGHT? AND SO THE CITY COUNTERED WITH OKAY, WILLING TO HAVE THE 250 CONVERSATION, BUT WHAT ARE WE GONNA GET? RIGHT? WHAT WE ARE GONNA GET IS A GUARANTEE THAT GOES FROM THE ONE COMMERCIAL TO THE FIVE COMMERCIAL, RIGHT? BECAUSE FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, FINN AND WAY, AND THAT TOWN CENTER PORTION OF IT IS, IS THE REAL CRUX OF THE MIXED USE PIECE OF IT, RIGHT? THE PARK IS GONNA FEED INTO IT, BOTH DEVELOPMENTS ON THE EAST AND WEST ARE GONNA FEED TO IT.
SO THAT WAS REALLY AN IMPORTANT PIECE FOR US, AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT DEVELOPED.
I, AMY, SO I UNDERSTAND THE, UH, LAN THE DEVELOPER PERSPECTIVE BE GIVEN THE MARKET SITUATION.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN FROM THE CITY PERSPECTIVE, BESIDES THE FACT THAT IT IS A MIXED USE COMPLEX THAT WE APPROVED MM-HMM
UM, WHAT IS C'S, UM, A CONCERN? WHAT SHOULD, WHAT IS OUR CONCERN BESIDES, UM, IT, UH, GOT APPROVED AS A MIXED USE AND NOW IT'S KIND OF BEING MONOPOLIZED AS LIKE JUST RESIDENTIAL, RIGHT? OTHER THAN THAT, IS THERE, ARE THERE ANY OTHER CONCERNS FROM THE CITY'S PLANNING PERSPECTIVE? NO.
THAT, THAT IS THE BIGGEST HURDLE AT THIS POINT.
WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT STAYS A MIXED USE PROJECT, RIGHT? MM-HMM
AND YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT IF WE WERE TO NOT HAVE THIS IN THAT IT WOULDN'T HAPPEN.
UH, THEY COULD, THEY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE LEARNED THROUGH TIME THAT MONEY IS MADE THROUGH RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
RIGHT? SO, UH, NOT TO SAY THEY WOULDN'T DO IT, THEY COULD VERY WANNA DO IT.
SO IT, IT, IT RESOLVES, IT RESOLVES OUR CONCERNS.
SO 250 UNITS, IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAME, WE, MEANING THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT CAME UP WITH THE HIGHEST NUMBER, IT WAS IN CONCERT WITH THE APPLICANT AND THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.
IT WAS TALKING, UH, A LITTLE BIT MORE STRATEGY THAN THAT, RIGHT? IT'S HOW MANY UNITS THROUGH THE PROJECT? DOES 250 GET? UM, 250 IS A HALFWAY POINT, RIGHT? IT'S A 500 UNIT PROJECT.
SO IT WAS KIND OF ONE OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS OF, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW MUCH DO YOU REALLY NEED? BUT IT WAS ALSO LOOKING AT THE PRODUCT TYPE AND LOOKING AT THE NUMBER OF UNITS, RIGHT? SO, UM, A LITTLE BACK AND FORTH.
SORRY, I, I'M, UH, ONE LAST QUESTION.
UM, SO GRACE POINT, WE APPROVED THAT, RIGHT? THE HORIZON, UH, THE, THAT THAT PROJECT'S MOVING FORWARD, CORRECT? CORRECT.
UH, I MEAN THAT'S PART OF THIS, IT IS MASTER PLAN.
THAT'S THE BROWN BOX ON THE UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER OF THE IMAGE.
UH, AS PART OF THE, THERE WAS ANOTHER SECTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
UH, TIM CAN TELL ME IF I'M GOING OFF SCRIPT AND I NEED TO BE QUIET, BUT, UH, THERE WAS ANOTHER SECTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT TALKED ABOUT THE DEDICATION OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING SITE.
SO AS, AND I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, RIGHT? SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT LAND C HAS TO DO IN ORDER TO TRANSFER THAT IS THEY HAD TO, UH, HAVE IT ALMOST
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LIKE A PAD READY.SO THEY HAD TO FINISH ALL OF THE GRADING ON THAT SITE, AND THEY ALSO HAD TO DO ALL OF THE, UH, EX THE, UM, STUB UP FOR UTILITIES AND THEN THE EX THE EXTERNAL IMPROVEMENTS, LIKE THE STREET SIDEWALK, RIGHT? ALL OF THE ADJACENT IMPROVEMENTS.
NOW, ONCE THEY FINISH THAT, THEN THIS, THEN THEY CAN DEDICATE THE SITE TO THE CITY OR THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPER.
WE'LL, WE'LL WORK THROUGH THAT.
AND, BUT NOW THAT, UH, SUNFLOWER HILL HAS RECEIVED THEIR ENTITLEMENTS, THEY JUST NEED TO FIGURE OUT THEIR FUNDING, RIGHT? OKAY.
AND THEN START WORKING ON THEIR CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS.
BUT SO THAT FROM A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT PERSPECTIVE IS ALMOST SATISFIED.
UH, SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE GETTING PRETTY CLOSE TO THAT.
UM, I'M SURE IF YOU'VE TRIED TO ACCESS BRANIGAN IN THE LAST, UH, THREE MONTHS, YOU'LL SEE WHY THEY'RE DOING THAT, RIGHT? SO, UM, WE'RE GETTING THERE.
UH, COMMISSIONER BMI, I KNOW I, I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS, BUT LATER AMY, ONE QUESTION IS LIKE, UH, HOW MANY UNITS HAVE THEY CURRENTLY BUILT SO FAR? LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION THAT'S GOING ON.
THEY'RE ALL AT DIFFERENT STAGES.
LIKE THE NORTH OF CENTRAL, THEY'RE ALMOST TAKING, I MEAN, PEOPLE ARE COMING AND LOOKING AT IT, RIGHT? AND THE SOUTH OF, UH, CENTRAL IN THE CENTER, IT'S ALMOST GETTING READY MM-HMM
KIND OF THING, RIGHT? SO WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS, IS THE BUILDER ONLY GOING TO DO 250 CONSTRUCTION AND AFTER THAT HE'S GOING TO STOP? AND WHAT IS OUR RISK IF HE DOESN'T, UH, GET THE COMMERCIAL PERMITS ON TIME? LIKE THEN, WHAT CONTROL WILL THE CITY HAVE? SO THE CITY'S CONTROL IN THE RELEASE OF THE PERMITS MM-HMM
SO IT'S UP TO THE CITY ON WHETHER OR NOT WE WILL RELEASE ANY PERMITS.
THE DEVELOPER RECEIVED A NOTICE FROM ME SEVERAL MONTHS AGO THAT THEY DON'T GET ANY MORE PERMITS, RIGHT? SO THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY THEY'RE HERE FOR THE ASK IS BECAUSE WE CONTROL THE OUTSET OF THE PERMITS, RIGHT? SO THEY NEEDED TO PULL A COMMERCIAL BUILDING IN ORDER TO GET THIS, WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION, DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO PULL IT NOW BUILDING IT? IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT LEASEABLE, RIGHT? AND SO THAT'S WHEN EVERYONE KIND OF CAME TO THE TABLE AGAIN AND THEY SAID, OKAY, HOW DO WE FIX THIS? BUT THE HOOK IS THAT THE CITY HAS COMPLETE CONTROL OVER ISSUING THE PERMITS.
UH, IF WE, LET'S SAY TODAY, IF THE RESOLUTION IS PASSED, RIGHT? SO THAT MEANS THE BUILDER CAN SELL UP TO 250 RESIDENTIAL UNITS AT THE MARKET PRICE IT'S BUILDING, SO THEY COULD RIGHT.
SELLING AND BUILDING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
UH, WHAT WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS, UH, SO IF YOU RECOMMEND APPROVAL TONIGHT, IT WILL GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL, RIGHT? FOR, UH, A FIRST AND SECOND READING.
SO IT, IT, IT'S A PROCESS, RIGHT? THERE'S ANOTHER PUBLIC PROCESS IN FRIDAY CITY COUNCIL, ASSUMING CITY COUNCIL APPROVES IT, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AMENDMENT WILL BE EXECUTED AND THEY WILL BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ADDITIONAL PERMITS.
MY ONLY WORRY IS, UH, IN THE PAST, WITHIN DUBLIN CITY ITSELF, WHENEVER WE HAVE TAKEN THE MIXED USE, THE DEVELOPERS COME FORWARD, THEY'LL SAY THAT THEY'LL BUILD COMMERCIALLY.
UH, SIMILAR TO THAT, IF YOU SEE ON THAT SIDE OF, UH, BRANIGAN, IT'S ALL CURRENTLY RESIDENTIAL.
RIGHT? THEY DID A SIMILAR EXERCISE WHERE EMERALD HIGH SCHOOL IS THERE TODAY BECAUSE LEE ASSOCIATES WAS OWNING THAT LAND AND THEY DID A LOT OF WORK AND THEY SAID LIKE, COMMERCIAL WON'T WORK HERE, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THAT'S WHY I WAS A LITTLE BIT WORRIED, UH, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THE BUILDER DOESN'T PROMISE DOESN'T FULFILL THE, UH, COMMERCIAL PERMIT, GETTING THE COMMERCIAL PERMITS FOR THOSE FIVE PIECES.
SO YOUR CONCERN IS EXACTLY WHY THIS IS WRITTEN INTO DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IN THE FIRST PLACE, RIGHT? WE ARE LEARNING FROM PAST LESSONS.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THESE DEVELOP HOLISTICALLY TOGETHER.
UM, IF, IF THE 250TH PERMIT OR 251ST PERMIT IS ASKED FOR, AND THEY HAVE NOT POLLED ALL FIVE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS, THE 251ST PERMIT IS NOT ISSUED.
ANYONE ELSE? SO I DO HAVE A QUESTION.
LIKE, THESE ARE ALL COMPLETELY COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS, RIGHT? WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
SO THERE ARE BUILDINGS RESIDENTIAL WITH COMMERCIAL.
SO HOW, SO I KIND OF HIGHLIGHTED THIS 'CAUSE I HAD A FEELING YOU GUYS WERE GONNA ASK ME WHAT YOU, WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT WHEN I SAID THE FIVE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS.
UM, BUT THERE IS, THERE'S A MIX.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SMALL YELLOW DOTS, YELLOW BOXES, THOSE ARE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED, RIGHT? THE BROWN, UH, WE CALL THOSE WITH THE U SHAPED.
WE CALL THOSE ENTRY LEVEL TOWN HOMES.
AND THEN THE, THE ELONGATED ROWS CREATE, YOU KNOW, ROW TOWN HOMES.
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GET VERY EXCITED, UM, ALONG PHON IS THE SHOP HOUSE CONCEPT.SO THOSE ARE A, THOSE ARE THE TRUE MIX OF RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES.
SO SOME OF THOSE, UH, JUST HAVE, EACH UNIT HAS SOME TYPE OF COMMERCIAL ON THE GROUND FLOOR.
SOME OF THEM HAVE A SMALL AMOUNT, LIKE A 400 SQUARE FOOT COMMERCIAL ON THE GROUND FLOOR.
SOME OF THEM HAVE CONSOLIDATED.
UH, SO THE AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL IS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER.
UH, AND THOSE ARE, AND THOSE ARE CONDO WISE.
SO HOW ARE THOSE GETTING IMPACTED? SO, SO DOES THE BUILDER CONSIDER THAT ALSO AS A COMMERCIAL? OR SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME? UH, ALONG WITH, ALONG WITH THIS COMMERCIAL, DOES THE BUILDER ALSO CONSIDER THAT ALSO AS A YEAH, SO THERE WAS A CLARIFICATION THAT HAPPENED TO THE AGREEMENT IN 2024.
THAT CLARIFICATION REQUIRED THE DEVELOPER TO PULL TWO SHOP HOUSE MM-HMM
UNITS WITH THE CONDO COMMERCIAL.
SO WHAT THAT MEANT WAS, UH, THE LARGER CONDO SPACE, RIGHT? SO EACH ONE HAD 400 SQUARE FEET, BUT SOME OF THEM CONSOLIDATED THOSE 400 SQUARE BASE.
WE HAD AN 800 SQUARE FOOT AND THEN A 400 SQUARE FOOT.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT, I DON'T HAVE AN IMAGE IN WHICH TO PROVIDE YOU, UH, A VISUAL AID, BUT, UH, THE REQUIREMENT WAS THAT THEY PULL TWO SHOP HOUSES WITH CONDO SPACES AND THEY HAVE DONE THAT.
THE TWO THAT THEY CHOSE, IN MY OPINION, WERE A GREAT CHOICE.
UM, WHAT THEY DID WAS THEY CHOSE THE ONE ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF TASSAJARA AND PHON, WHICH IS THIS ONE RIGHT HERE.
SO THAT'S THE ONE THAT YOU SEE IF YOU'RE RIGHT AT THE CORNER OF THE SHOPS.
AND TASSAJARA ROAD IS THE ONE CLOSEST TO IT.
AND THEN THEY ALSO CHOSE THE ONE AT THE CORNER OF FON AND DIABLO VIEW.
DIABLO VIEW IS THE STREET THAT RUNS ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE PROJECT AND RUNS ACROSS THE PARK.
SO FROM A PLACEMAKING PERSPECTIVE AND KIND OF SETTING THE ANCHOR, UH, THOSE, THAT WAS A GREAT CHOICE.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE TWO CLOSEST TO THE PHON SQUARE.
AND SO IT SORT OF HELPS ALL OF THAT COME TO FRUITION FASTER.
SO THE 250 UNITS, UM, WHICH TYPE OF, UM, HOUSING UNITS ARE THESE? UH, IN THAT MAP? THE REQUIREMENTS ARE MARKET RATE RESIDENTIAL.
SO IT COULD BE ANY COMBINATION OF, SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE U-SHAPED TOWN HOMES MM-HMM
SO ONE BUILDING PERMIT WOULD BE FOR 13 UNITS.
SO WE DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION AT THIS POINT.
LIKE WHERE THESE ARE LOOKING, WHICH ONES ARE GONNA BUILD.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM LANCIA IS HERE.
HE MIGHT BE ABLE TO WALK YOU THROUGH IT.
I THINK FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, IT WAS MORE OF, UM, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT IN A COLLABORATED PERSPECTIVE RIGHT.
THAT WE WERE NOT PUTTING THE CART FULLY BEFORE THE HORSE.
THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE, I MEAN, ULTIMATELY, I DON'T KNOW THAT I NECESSARILY CARE WHICH ONES THEY ARE.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A DECISION ON THEIR END, RIGHT? THEY, THEY KNOW WHAT THEY WANNA BUILD, THEY KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE TO BUILD AFTER 250.
UH, I CAN TELL YOU NOW THAT THE, THE NUMBER OF UNITS SOUTH OF PHON, RIGHT? SO BETWEEN PHON AND DUBLIN BOULEVARD, UH, MY, MY GUESS IS IT PROBABLY ISN'T ANY OF THOSE, BUT IT COULD INCLUDE, I DUNNO.
AND, UM, IS THE 250 GOING TO HAVE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMPONENT BUILT INTO IT? LIKE PERCENTAGE WISE, LIKE 12.5% AFFORDABLE AMONG THE MARKETS? SO THE, THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, WAS MET THROUGH THIS PROJECT THROUGH AN ALTERNATE METHOD OF COMPLIANCE.
SO IT WAS MET YOU MEAN WHAT THAT WAS
SO, UH, THERE'S SIX BELOW MARKET RATE UNITS IN THE ENTRY-LEVEL TOWN HOMES.
UH, AND THEN THERE WAS, THERE IS, THERE WAS THE DEDICATION OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING SITE.
THERE ARE 105 AUS THAT ARE DETACHED.
SO THIS PRODUCT HERE OH, RIGHT, RIGHT.
HAS A DETACHED GARAGE AND AN A DU ABOVE THE GARAGE.
SO THOSE WERE DEED RESTRICTED TO LOW AND MOD KIND OF SPLIT 50 50.
UH, AND THEN THERE WAS A LUMP SUM PAYMENT TO THE, UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING FUND TO BE USED FOR FIRST TIME HOME BUYER LOAN PROGRAM FOR THE PROJECT
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OF A MILLION DOLLARS.SO THERE WAS A, IT WAS A MIXED BAG, UH, OF, OF HOW THEY'RE SATISFYING.
THAT THE, THE ADUS ARE ALREADY BEING BUILT, THEY'RE ALREADY BEING DEED RESTRICTED.
SO THAT'S PART OF IMPLEMENTING THE AGREEMENT.
UH, I DON'T REMEMBER WHERE THE SIX ARE IN THE ENTRY LEVEL, YOU KNOW, U SHAPES, BUT, UM, IT'S POSSIBLE THAT SOME OF THOSE WILL HAVE SOME OF THE SIX.
'CAUSE THOSE ARE, THEY'RE KIND OF SPRINKLED THROUGHOUT THAT PRODUCT.
WE'VE GONE INTO DIFFERENT, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, CASH AND ADUS AND, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A MIXED BAG OF, UH, INSURING, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
BUT FOR THESE TWO 50, HOW ARE WE GONNA EVEN SORT THAT OUT? BECAUSE NOT ALL OF THOSE COMMITMENTS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS GOING TO, WE DON'T KNOW WHEN ALL OF THEM ARE GOING TO HAPPEN AT THIS POINT.
IN TERMS OF, IN TERMS OF TIMING, WHEN THEY WANT TO BUILD THE UNIT.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, IF WE GO FORWARD WITH THE TWO 50, YOU KNOW, MARKET VALUE, THE TIMING OF THE WHOLE COMPLEX, THE MASTER PLAN, WE ACTUALLY DO NOT KNOW WHEN THE WHOLE THING'S GONNA BE COMPLETED.
I MEAN, A PROJECT OF THIS SIZE IS YEARS, RIGHT? IT TAKES YEARS.
IT TAKES YEARS TO BUILD PRODUCTS OF THIS SIZE.
SO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GOING PRETTY FAST.
AND SO YEAH, THE ON WHEN I'M, I'M MAYBE HE'S GOT SOME ESTIMATE OF WHEN HE'LL REACH TWO 50.
I CAN SAVE THAT QUESTION FOR YOU,
ANY, ANYBODY ELSE, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS? SHOULD WE INVITE OR, YEAH.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT ME TO JUMP IN AND ADD, JUST ADD A COUPLE THINGS.
I WAS THINKING AS SHE WAS TALKING.
UM, AS FAR AS, SO I'LL TRY TO REMEMBER ALL OF 'EM, BUT REMIND ME AS FAR AS WHICH, UM, BUILDING TYPES GET PULLED.
SO RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT A PRETTY EVEN MIX OF ALL OF THEM.
LIKE I NEED TO, IDEALLY I'M SELLING ALL OF 'EM AT THE SAME TIME.
SO WE THINK THEY APPEAL TO DIFFERENT BUYERS, RIGHT? LIKE THE ENTRY LEVEL TOWNS AND THE ROW TOWNS, THE DETACHED.
AND THEN WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE MUCH LARGER DETACHED STUFF.
SO I'M TRYING TO SELL THEM ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE PUSHING ONE AND THE OTHER LIKE THAT.
THAT WOULDN'T BE A GOOD FINANCIAL DECISION FOR US TO WAIT.
LIKE, WE'D LIKE TO SELL 'EM ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO SELL A MIX.
UM, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS OF, AMY TALKED ABOUT, UM, THE SHOP HOUSES.
SO WE HAVE PULLED, UM, THREE DEDICATED COMMERCIAL CONDOS THAT'S SEPARATE THAN JUST LIKE THE COMMERCIAL TYPE AREA, BUT THESE ARE SEPARATELY CONVEYABLE COMMERCIAL, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S IS IN A WAY, I GUESS IT'S NOT STANDALONE RETAIL, BUT IT'S DEDICATED RETAIL.
LIKE THAT CAN BE SOLD TO SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T OWN A HOME IN HERE, YOU KNOW? AND THAT'S A DEDICATED, UM, COMMERCIAL SPACE.
UM, WHAT WERE SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS I WANTED SAY, OH, HOW DO YOU MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T EVER NOT BUILD THE RETAIL? YOU SAID WHAT, WHAT GETS US TO STOP AT TWO 50? WE'LL HAVE SUCH A BIG INVESTMENT IN THE GROUND.
THE, THE HOME BUILDING'S KIND OF A CRAZY THING.
YOU PUT ALL THIS MONEY IN UPFRONT AND YOU GOTTA SELL ALL THE UNITS OFF AND YOU REALLY, IT'S LIKE THE LAST 50 UNITS MAYBE THAT I'M ACTUALLY MAKING PROFIT ON, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE'RE PUTTING IN ALL THE STREETS, WE'RE DOING ALL THE OFFSITES, EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
WE HAVEN'T CLOSED ONE HOME OUT THERE YET, RIGHT? SO NO MONEY HAS COME BACK.
WE ARE GONNA HAVE SO MUCH MONEY IN THE GROUND.
LIKE IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO START AT TWO 50 OR STOP AT TWO 50.
UM, THE OTHER THING IS ON, ON HOW DO YOU MAKE SURE THE RETAIL GETS BUILT, RIGHT? SO RIGHT NOW, LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE READY.
WE, WE'VE WORKED WITH STAFF AND WE'RE READY TO WRITE THAT BIG CHECK FOR ONE BUILDING PERMIT.
SO WE COULD PULL THAT ONE BUILDING PERMIT FOR THE RETAIL AND WE COULD WORK ON THAT.
IT'S PROBABLY NOT READY, RIGHT? LIKE YOU'VE SEEN ALL THE STREETS ARE TORE UP AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
I CAN PUT IT ON THE MARKET, TRY TO SELL IT, BUT NOTHING WOULD REALLY STOP ME FROM, I GUESS NEVER GETTING TO THE FOUR OR OTHER COMMERCIAL BUILDING PERMITS.
THIS WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED WOULD MAKE SURE THAT WE PULL A PERMIT FOR ALL OF THEM.
NOW I THINK THAT THE COMMERCIAL REALLY HELPS.
THE RESIDENTIAL, RESIDENTIAL REALLY HELPS THE COMMERCIAL, LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT, I THINK THEY'RE SUPER COMPLIMENTARY.
SO WE WANT THE RETAIL IN THERE.
I'VE REGULAR MEETINGS OVER THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS OF WITH, UM, COMMERCIAL BROKERS, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPERS ON LIKE, WHAT WOULD YOU PUT HERE? HOW DO WE MAKE SURE, EVEN AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH PROCESSING PLANS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE READY TO DO WHATEVER WE NEED TO, THAT
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WE'RE LIKE SETTING UP A VIABLE PRO PROJECT, UH, RETAIL PROJECT THAT ACTUALLY MEETS THE MARKET.RIGHT? I'M A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPER, SO I WANNA MAKE SURE I'M ASKING THESE GUYS LIKE, WHAT IS A VIABLE RETAIL PROJECT SO THAT I KNOW I'M SET UP IF FOOD IS THE RIGHT THING, I'M SET UP FOR FOOD FOR MY RESIDENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, I HAVE A VERY SIMILAR PROJECT IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA THAT HAS A BIG RETAIL COMPONENT.
WE'VE REALLY PUSHED THE RETAIL, AT LEAST WITH A DEVELOPER IN THE PLANNING STAGE.
'CAUSE I WANT THE PICTURES UP IN MY SALES OFFICE OF SAYING LIKE, LOOK, YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO WALK TO THIS RESTAURANT, THIS RESTAURANT.
SO IT IS A HUNDRED PERCENT A SELLING TOOL FOR US AS WELL IN THE SALES OFFICE TO AT LEAST HAVE RENDERINGS AND GOING THROUGH PLANNING AND BEING READY FOR THIS.
I CAN'T QUITE GET THE RESTAURANTS THERE UNTIL THERE'S PEOPLE TO WALK TO 'EM.
I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY OTHER PEOPLE WILL COME, BUT IT'S, IT'S A COMPLETELY COMPLIMENTARY LAND USE THAT, THAT WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT.
ANYONE ELSE? SO WHAT HAPPENED TO THE, WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE ALREADY INVESTED AND STARTED BLOCKING THOSE KIND OF, UM, THOSE PROPERTIES? THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE ALREADY, UM, BUYING THEM? YEAH.
UH, WHAT DO YOU MEAN WHAT HAPPENS TO THEM? UH, SO WE SHOULD TAKE THEIR, UM, CONSIDERATION TOOL, RIGHT? LIKE WHAT CHANGING IN THE, LIKE SELLING OFF THE WHOLE PROPERTY AND THERE IS A CHANGE IN PLAN, RIGHT? THERE'S ACTUALLY, I THINK IT'S ACCRETIVE TO THEIR BUYING DECISION AND THAT NOW THERE'S A GUARANTEE THAT THE RETAIL IS GETTING BUILT ALL THE RETAIL.
SO NOBODY IS CLOSED YET, RIGHT? THEY'RE IN ESCROW.
EVERYONE SEES THE PLAN AND SEES LIKE WHERE THE RETAILERS LIKE OBVIOUSLY THAT'S NOT CHANGING THIS THOUGH.
I, I THINK THAT IS LIKE GOOD NEWS.
I TELL MY BUYERS OF LIKE, HEY, THERE IS NOW LIKE REALLY A TIMELINE FOR WHEN THIS RETAIL DEFINITIVELY GETS BUILT.
NOT ONE BUILDING, BUT ALL FIVE.
SO I THINK THAT'S, IT'S LIKE A GOOD MESSAGE IN MY SALES OFFICE.
I MEAN, ALSO WE'RE, UH, PSAD COMMISSIONER PSAD, WE ARE HOLDING A PUBLIC HEARING TODAY.
AND THIS IS, THIS AGENDA IS ALSO GOING TO MOVE FORWARD TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE THIS IS, THE AGENDA HAS BEEN POSTED FOR PUBLIC TOO.
AND SO IF ANYBODY WANTED TO VOICE ANY CONCERN OR ANYTHING, THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TODAY AND THEY WILL HAVE IT FOR THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING AS WELL.
AND THROUGH THE CHAIR, I'LL PROVIDE A QUICK CLARIFICATION JUST IN CASE.
SO THE PROJECT IS NOT CHANGING.
THE EXACT SAME PROJECT TODAY IS, IT IS YESTERDAY AND IT WILL BE IN THREE MONTHS AT THE, YOU KNOW, CITY COUNCIL APPROVES IT, RIGHT.
IT'S JUST THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDING PERMITS AND THE COMMERCIAL BUILDING PERMITS.
WITH THAT, I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION, UM, I SAW THE AGENDA PACKAGE, UH, JENNIFER, UM, ABOUT THE CQA.
UM, BECAUSE WE HAVE THE SE QL ALREADY APPROVED AND THE SCOPE OF WORK OR THE GROUND GROUND DISTURBANCE IS ACTUALLY NOT CHANGING.
SO I DON'T ACTUALLY SEE ANY REASON TO HAVE ANY S QL WORK DONE.
UM, ALTHOUGH I'VE READ SOMETHING LIKE THE CHANGE IS NOT SUBSTANTIAL AND ALTERNATIVE, NO ALTERNATIVE IS CHANGING.
WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANY PLANS AS WE SEE ON THOSE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE MASTER PLAN THAT YOU'VE SHOWN.
WE'VE ALSO SEEN DETAILED PLANS WHEN THE PLANS WERE APPROVED.
I DON'T THINK THE LOCATION OF THOSE BUILDINGS ARE ACTUALLY CHANGING.
SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, NO BUILDINGS ARE MOVED FROM HERE TO HERE, YOU KNOW, CHANGING LOCATIONS OR ADDING MORE BUILDINGS OR THEN WE DON'T NEED TO REVISIT THE QUA.
THAT'S, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE FOR THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
UM, I'M READY FOR A MOTION IF ANYBODY OH, QUESTIONS.
YEAH, SO IF YOU CONSIDER, OH, I'M SORRY, WE HAVE TO GO FOR THE QUESTION AND THEN WE HAVE TO HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO IF YOU CONSIDER THE, UH, COMMERCIAL BUILDING AT THE CENTER, IF IN ONE MILE RADIUS, HOW MANY IS SEATING LIKE RESIDENTIAL UNIT RIGHT NOW? IN, IN THAT, IN THAT AREA? HOW MANY ARE IN THERE? YEAH.
I DON'T KNOW THAT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
SO I'M, SO I'M QUESTION ASKING THAT BECAUSE IN THE, THERE ARE A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOOD NEARBY, IF YOU HAVE COMMERCIAL BUILDING ALREADY THERE, THERE SHOULD BE HELP PLENTY.
I THINK THE, UM, CUSTOMERS WILL VISIT THERE.
SO BECAUSE RIGHT NOW EVEN YOU OPEN LIKE 250, YOU STILL THESE SMALL NUMBERS.
IF YOU, FOR EXAMPLE, FAMILY HAVE PHONE MEMBERS ONLY A THOUSAND PEOPLE, HOW MUCH LIKE BUSINESS THAT CAN BE CONTRIBUTED TO THE LOCAL, IT MUST BE NEARBY.
ALL THESE LIKE RESIDENTIAL WILL BE HELPING TO HELPING THE COMMERCIAL ITSELF.
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THINK YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE ARE, HOW MANY COMMERCIAL USERS PREFER TO HAVE THESE IC READY THAN HAVE THAT? SO WHAT'S THE, HOW MANY, BASICALLY, YOU SAID MANY.WHAT'S THE PERCENTAGE? SO HOW MANY FREEDOM OF COMMERCIAL, COMMERCIAL, THESE LIKE USERS YOU ARE HELPING ASK AND WHAT'S THE PERCENTAGE? BASICALLY THEY PREFER TO HAVE THAT, I WANT TO HAVE SOME LIKE BASIC NUMBERS.
WHAT, LIKE WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE PROJECT DO THEY WANT BUILT? THAT KIND OF THING.
THE FIRST THING WOULD BE IS WHAT WE WAS TALKING ABOUT IS LIKE THE ACCESS AND INFRASTRUCTURE.
LIKE THAT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO GETTING PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, BUYERS IN THERE, EVEN IF THEY ALREADY LIVE CLOSE BY ACROSS THE STREET.
SO WE ARE, I, I'M, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WANTING TO HAVE ALL THIS BUTTONED UP FOR THE FACT OF US EVEN SELLING.
SO WE'RE MOTIVATED TO GET THE SITE BUTTONED UP AND THE ROADS OPEN FOR US GETTING BUYERS TO COME AND MOVE INTO HOUSES, RIGHT? YEAH.
UM, I WOULD SAY THE GENERAL, LIKE THERE IS CERTAINLY AN INTEREST FROM COMMERCIAL DEVELOPERS AND THEY LIKE THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE BUILDING A BUNCH OF NEW HOUSES AROUND THERE.
THERE IS RETAIL CENTER AROUND AND THERE'S A LOT OF ROOFTOPS MM-HMM
UM, BUT A LOT OF THESE, LIKE IF YOU KNOW, LIKE THIS IS KIND OF TUCKED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SITE, RIGHT? LIKE SOME OF IT FRONTS, ONE OF THE UNITS FRONTS, UM, TASARA, THE OTHER UNITS ARE KIND OF TUCKED IN THERE.
AND THAT'S JUST TOUGHER FROM A RETAIL COMMERCIAL STANDPOINT.
IT'S ALL ABOUT EYEBALLS, RIGHT? LIKE PEOPLE WOULD KNOW IT'S THERE AND WE'LL HAVE SIGNAGE.
BUT HAVING LIKE PHON OPENED UP AND ALL OF THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS BUILT ALONG PHON, WHICH WE ARE KIND OF WORKING, THOSE WOULD BE THE UNITS THAT WE WOULD, UM, BUILD SOUTH OF PHON WOULD BE THE SHOP HOUSES GETTING LIKE PHON WAY SET UP.
SO THAT THEN THAT'S WHERE WE IMAGINE ALL THE TRAFFIC COMES IN.
SO I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW NUMBERS OF ROOFTOPS OFFHAND, BUT THERE IS CERTAINLY AN INTEREST IN COMMERCIAL.
SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I'M SITTING HERE THINKING LIKE I'M NOT GONNA HAVE AN INTEREST IN.
I THINK THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE A GREAT RETAIL CENTER THAT COMPLIMENTS THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
I'LL OPEN, UM, UH, FOR A PUBLIC HEARING NOW, UM, KATHY, DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENT CARDS OR NO, I DO NOT HAVE ANY SPEAKER SLIPS FOR THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, WITH THAT, I THINK WE CAN CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, SO NOW I WANNA BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSIONERS.
UM, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU, AMY, FOR BEING PATIENT, AND THANK YOU.
UM, UH, WE CAN MAKE A MOTION AND THEN DELIBERATE.
UM, I MAKE A MOTION, MOTION, UM, THAT WE ADOPT THIS RESOLUTION RECOMMENDING THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
ANYTHING ELSE? WHAT DO YOU THINK, COMMISSIONER? WOO.
WE'RE, UH, THE CITY OF DUBLIN HAS BEEN LOOKING FORWARD.
IT'S YOU THE VOTE, YOU NEED TO VOTE.
UH, WE
UM, I KNOW THE MARKET HAS CHANGED, THINGS CHANGE AND WE'RE KIND OF ADOPTING TO THAT.
SO LET'S VOTE, UH, THOSE OF WHO YOU ARE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
ARE YOU NA I ABSTAIN FROM VOTING ON THIS.
COMMISSIONER HAN? YEAH, WE DO THE SAME.
IS THIS BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE WITHIN THE 500 FEET RADIUS OR, OKAY, WE DON'T HAVE TO DISCLOSE THAT THEY ARE JUST ABSTAINING FROM VOTING.
SO THEN, UH, COMMISSIONER W CAN VOTE.
NO, NO, YOU, YOU HAVE A QUORUM FOR THE VOTE.
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ABSTAIN.IF I'M HEARING IT CORRECT? MM-HMM
UM, MOVING ON TO AGENDA NUMBER SEVEN.
ANY UNFINISHED BUSINESS? NO UNFINISHED BUSINESS TODAY.
ANY NEW BUSINESS? NO NEW BUSINESS.
[9.STAFF AND COMMISSIONER REPORTS ]
REPORTS.THIS IS THE TIME TO BRIEF INFORMATIONAL OR REPORTS FROM PLANNING COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF.
LET'S START WITH COMMISSIONERS.
ARE THERE ANY REPORTS OR ANYTHING YOU WANNA DISCUSS? REPORT BASICALLY NONE.
JENNIFER, ANYTHING FROM YOU? I HAVE LIMITED REPORTS JUST TO SAY THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME.
AND OUR NEXT MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR JUNE 9TH.
UM, RIGHT NOW I HAVE NOTHING, UM, TENTATIVE ON THE AGENDA, BUT WE WILL AGAIN WAIT UNTIL I SAID I TOLD THAT TO YOU ON THE 12TH.
AND HERE WE ARE, THE 26TH MEETING.
SO IN CASE SOMETHING COMES UP, WE'LL CONTINUE TO HOLD THAT DATE AND WE'LL CANCEL IT WHEN WE GET CLOSER.
SO WITH THAT, IT'S 7 56 AND WE'LL ADJOURN THE MEETING.